Re: Punched Card Combinations (WAS Book on Poughkeepsie)

2009-05-29 Thread Compton, John
On this side of the Atlantic it was always '10, 11, 0...' not '12, 11, 0...' I've no idea why. John -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Clark Kidd Sent: 28 May 2009 20:35 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Punched Card

Re: DFHSM question concerning Duplex copies

2009-05-29 Thread Scott T. Harder
Wow...sounds like Dual Copy, but for tape. -- All the best, Scott T. Harder On 5/28/09, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] obrie...@mail.nih.gov wrote: Thanks Allan, I finally found the section you were quoting and after reading concede your point. I've learned something so the day is not a

Re: TCB time question

2009-05-29 Thread Peter Relson
I suspect DTSC systems were upgraded from earlier releases and this thus didn't get installed. Does that make more sense? No. That is only possible if they have a pre-GA copy of the operating system. Otherwise it is not possible.. My point remains. If there is an IEFACTRT exit routine that is

Re: OpenSSH problem on z/OS 1.10

2009-05-29 Thread Ulrich Boche
c...@belastingdienst.nl wrote: Hello, all I have a problem using OpenSSH (from the IBM delivered Ported Tools) with z/OS 1.10. I cannot open a ssh session on one of our sysplexes. I scanned the syslogd log file and this says: fatal: ssh-rand-helper child produced insufficient data. On

Re: TSO/E Exits

2009-05-29 Thread John Eells
This was definitely a wetware problem. (I forgot to sort by name first to look for duplicates. Color my face red this morning.) Sorry about that; here's a corrected list. In the process of correcting it, I found there are really 38 items on the list. Also, I got one more response, and

Re: FMID descriptions

2009-05-29 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Wow, the replies to my query were overwhelming! Perhaps I should change the subject line to Book on Poughkeepsie! grin -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Richards, Robert B. Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 12:16 PM To:

Re: IMS..IMS..Gotta love IMS. Why is my PCB failing?

2009-05-29 Thread David Logan
OK, so here is the final diagnosis: They had an error in their automated build process that was causing the programs to be translated by the CICS translator, which prefixed the LINKAGE SECTION with the CICS EIB area. That meant that the LINKAGE section mapping didn't match the actual passed in

Re: DFHSM QUESTION - UNABLE TO BACKUP DSN

2009-05-29 Thread willie bunter
I verfied the STC.  The CDS backups were successfully executed at 05:01 a.m.:   ARC0741I CDS BACKUP ENDING AT 05:01:18 ON 2009/05/29, ARC0741I (CONT.) STATUS=SUCCESSFUL    I checked the status - HSEND Q AC W it displays the following: BACKUP=1895.  Of note the backup is not

Re: DFHSM QUESTION - UNABLE TO BACKUP DSN

2009-05-29 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Willie, Kindly post the following from your Q AC ARC0163I BACKUP=NOT HELD, AUTOBACKUP=NOT HELD, RECOVERY=NOT HELD, ARC0163I (CONT.) TAPEDATASETRECOVERY=NOT HELD, DATA SET BACKUP=NOT HELD, VOLUME ARC0163I (CONT.) BACKUP=INACTIVE, DATA SET RECOVERY=INACTIVE, VOLUME

Re: DFHSM QUESTION - UNABLE TO BACKUP DSN

2009-05-29 Thread willie bunter
Here it is: ARC0101I QUERY ACTIVE COMMAND STARTING ON HOST=G   ARC0144I AUDIT=NOT HELD AND INACTIVE, LIST=NOT HELD AND INACTIVE, RECYCLE=NOT  ARC0144I (CONT.) HELD AND ACTIVE, REPORT=NOT HELD AND INACTIVE ARC0160I MIGRATION=NOT HELD, AUTOMIGRATION=NOT

Re: DFHSM QUESTION - UNABLE TO BACKUP DSN

2009-05-29 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Willie, Issue a HSEND QUERY SETSYS and let me know what the following fields contain: MAXBACKUPTASKS=?? DATA SET DASD BACKUP TASKS=?? DATA SET TAPE BACKUP TASKS=?? Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of willie

VSE RPG question

2009-05-29 Thread Bill Washburn
Does anyone have a reasonably good idea of a) how many active VSE shops there are worldwide? b) how many VSE shops have any RPGII code in production? Thanks Bill -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,

Re: DFHSM QUESTION - UNABLE TO BACKUP DSN

2009-05-29 Thread Lizette Koehler
Willie, In your listing it shows DATA SET BACKUP=DASD HELD, Do you want this held? Lizette Here it is: ARC0101I QUERY ACTIVE COMMAND STARTING ON HOST=G   ARC0144I AUDIT=NOT HELD AND INACTIVE, LIST=NOT HELD AND INACTIVE, RECYCLE=NOT  ARC0144I (CONT.) HELD AND

Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-05-29 Thread Jodi Everdon
Did you happen to read the last issue of z/OS Hot Topics? I think you'll be pleasantly surprised by the story of page 4. It's the first is our series. Our next issue comes out in August with more in the series. We are also publishing another installment on the Website in June. Here's a link to

Re: DFHSM QUESTION - UNABLE TO BACKUP DSN

2009-05-29 Thread willie bunter
Here it is:   ARC0154I MAXBACKUPTASKS=01, ABSTART= (0500 0700 0730), VERSIONS=002, ARC0269I DATA SET DASD BACKUP TASKS=02 DATA SET TAPE BACKUP TASKS=00, --- On Fri, 5/29/09, Richards, Robert B. robert.richa...@opm.gov wrote: From: Richards, Robert B. robert.richa...@opm.gov Subject: Re:

Re: DFHSM QUESTION - UNABLE TO BACKUP DSN

2009-05-29 Thread willie bunter
Hmmm I checked the DFHSM parms but I don't see it being held.  I am not sure how or why it is being held.  --- On Fri, 5/29/09, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote: From: Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - UNABLE TO BACKUP DSN To:

Re: DFHSM QUESTION - UNABLE TO BACKUP DSN

2009-05-29 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Willie, Do you have anything coded in your parmlib for DSBACKUP? I don't and the defaults work fine. Kindly post the following from Q SETSYS ARC0269I DATA SET DASD BACKUP TASKS=02 DATA SET TAPE BACKUP TASKS=02, ARC0269I (CONT.) DEMOUNTDELAY MINUTES=0060, MAXIDLETASKS=00, DATA SET

Re: DFHSM QUESTION - UNABLE TO BACKUP DSN

2009-05-29 Thread willie bunter
David,   I did a find for DSBACKUP and all I found is : SETSYS DSBACKUP(DASDSELECTIONSIZE(85 00) DASD(TASKS(2)) -    TAPE(TASKS(0) DEMOUNTDELAY(MINUTES(0) MAXIDLETASKS(0   --- On Fri, 5/29/09, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] obrie...@mail.nih.gov wrote: From: O'Brien, David

Re: DFHSM QUESTION - UNABLE TO BACKUP DSN

2009-05-29 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Well you will never backup to tape as you have Tape(tasks(0). Hope you have sufficient ML1 space once you release DSBACKUP. As Lizzette pointed out, it is currently held. Dave O'Brien NIH Contractor From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: DFHSM QUESTION - UNABLE TO BACKUP DSN

2009-05-29 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Willie, Issue RELEASE BACKUP(DSCOMMAND) and let us know if that changes things. Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 10:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: DFHSM

Re: DFHSM QUESTION - UNABLE TO BACKUP DSN

2009-05-29 Thread willie bunter
David,   Just to confirm my understanding if I change the TAPE(TASKS(1) this should solve the problem.  Do I need to change anything else?   --- On Fri, 5/29/09, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] obrie...@mail.nih.gov wrote: From: O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] obrie...@mail.nih.gov Subject:

Re: DFHSM QUESTION - UNABLE TO BACKUP DSN

2009-05-29 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Willie, If you want Dataset Backups by command to go to tape then yes you need to change Tape(task(n) to a value other than zero. Then Release Backup(dscommand) as Bob suggested in another posting. Dave O'Brien NIH Contractor From: IBM Mainframe

Re: DFHSM QUESTION - UNABLE TO BACKUP DSN

2009-05-29 Thread willie bunter
Bob,   I will need to rethink RELEASE BACKUP(DSCOMMAND).  I am not sure why there is a TAPE(TASKS(0). If I issue the RELEASE BACKUP(DSCOMMAND) then I could have a problem with DASD (as per David's warning).  --- On Fri, 5/29/09, Richards, Robert B. robert.richa...@opm.gov wrote: From:

Re: DFHSM QUESTION - UNABLE TO BACKUP DSN

2009-05-29 Thread willie bunter
David,   Should I need to change anytthing in the SETSYS DSBACKUP(DASDSELECTIONSIZE(85 00) DASD(TASKS(2)) ? --- On Fri, 5/29/09, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] obrie...@mail.nih.gov wrote: From: O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] obrie...@mail.nih.gov Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION -

Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-05-29 Thread Scott T. Harder
Complely off topic, but I can't resist The refrence to toll collection harkens me back to the NY State Thruway (a sort of Poughkeepsie relationship there, so maybe not so off topic). I was born and raised in Saugerties, NY, which is just north of Poughkeepsie; triangular to Kingston and

Re: FMID descriptions

2009-05-29 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Wow, the replies to my query were overwhelming! Perhaps I should change the subject line to Book on Poughkeepsie! Nobody is required to respond; we're all volunteers. Maybe nobody has the answer, or they are busy. - Too busy driving to stop for gas!

Re: DFHSM QUESTION - UNABLE TO BACKUP DSN

2009-05-29 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
The 850MB value that you have specified allows a 850MB dataset backup to be directed to ML1 DASD. You might want to make that value smaller. Or comment out the Setsys Dsbackup altogether and take the defaults. Section 3.37.5.53 DSBACKUP: Controlling the Command Data Set Backup Environment of

Re: FMID descriptions

2009-05-29 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi Seems to me as standard ISPF table, and the KEY is the FMID. You can get the row's via TBGET Richards, Robert B. wrote: Does anyone have any REXX code to grab English description FMID table entries out of GIM.SGIMTENU's BCNFMDS member by passing it the FMID in question? I am writing

Re: FMID descriptions

2009-05-29 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Really Ted? Did you really think that I did not know that after all my years on this list? Lighten up! Can't you spot a tongue-in-cheek post when you see one? Bob - -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: FMID descriptions

2009-05-29 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
This worked for me: /* REXX */ ADDRESS TSO ALLOC FI(ISPPROF) DA('ESA.ISPF.ISPPROF') SHR REUSE ADDRESS ISPEXEC

Re: FMID descriptions

2009-05-29 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Really Ted? Did you really think that I did not know that after all my years on this list? Lighten up! Can't you spot a tongue-in-cheek post when you see one? And, when I said maybe nobody knows, how serious was I. - Too busy driving to stop for gas!

Re: FMID descriptions

2009-05-29 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Okay. Point taken. Truce! TGIF! :-) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 11:41 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: FMID descriptions Really Ted? Did you really think that I did not

Re: DFHSM QUESTION - UNABLE TO BACKUP DSN

2009-05-29 Thread willie bunter
David,   I found in the doc that both options can be used in the DFHSM STORAGE ADMINISTRATION REFERENCE ZOS V1R70.  I will take a closer look at this option. Since the DATASET BACKUP option is held, can I assume if I issue the RELEASE BACKUP(DSCOMMAND), the datasets will be backed up to ML1 DASD

Re: FMID descriptions

2009-05-29 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Thank you, Miklos. I appreciate your response. Bob - -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Miklos Szigetvari Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 11:40 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu

Re: DFHSM QUESTION - UNABLE TO BACKUP DSN

2009-05-29 Thread Ulrich Krueger
Since the DATASET BACKUP option is held, can I assume if I issue the RELEASE BACKUP(DSCOMMAND), the datasets will be backed up to ML1 DASD since the TAPE(TASKS is set to (0). IMHO ... Yes, but ... What if a dataset backup request exceeds 850MB or the max. space available on a single ML1 disk?

Re: DFHSM QUESTION - UNABLE TO BACKUP DSN

2009-05-29 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
That would be my understanding. Dave O'Brien NIH Contractor From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of willie bunter [williebun...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 11:49 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: DFHSM

Re: DFHSM QUESTION - UNABLE TO BACKUP DSN

2009-05-29 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Ulrich, While I agree with you that backups to tape should be allowed, if a backup fails to ML1 due to lack of space won't the request fail and the next backup in the queue be executed? That is what I would expect. Dave O'Brien NIH Contractor From: IBM

Re: DFHSM QUESTION - UNABLE TO BACKUP DSN - THANK YOU

2009-05-29 Thread willie bunter
Thanks to everybody who responded to my post and help fix my problem.  You are all a shining example of what a great group you are.  Much obliged.  Cheers. --- On Fri, 5/29/09, Ulrich Krueger u...@pacbell.net wrote: From: Ulrich Krueger u...@pacbell.net Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - UNABLE TO

Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-05-29 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. jever...@us.ibm.com (Jodi Everdon) writes: Did you happen to read the last issue of z/OS Hot Topics? I think you'll be pleasantly surprised by the story of page

Re: DFHSM QUESTION - UNABLE TO BACKUP DSN

2009-05-29 Thread Ulrich Krueger
Dave, I can't prove it, because I don't have access to a mainframe right now. However, I seem to remember a situation some years back, where a failed command got stuck on top of the queue and caused the function to be held. If you released the function, the failed command would attempt to execute

Re: DFHSM QUESTION - UNABLE TO BACKUP DSN - THANK YOU

2009-05-29 Thread Ulrich Krueger
You're very welcome, Willie. Are you saying that the problem is now fixed? What did you do? What changes did you make? And, for the curious among us: What caused dataset backup to be held in the first place? A dataset too big for disk backup or lack of ML1 space? Regards, Ulrich Krueger

Re: FMID descriptions

2009-05-29 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Okay. Point taken. Truce! TGIF! :-) Truce. It's sometimes hard to tell how serious people aren't from the written word. I forgot to include a smiley. I have a custom-designed one: (8-{]} Bald head, glasses, nose, mustache, smile, beard. - Too busy driving to stop for gas!

Re: FMID descriptions

2009-05-29 Thread Tony Harminc
2009/5/28 Richards, Robert B. robert.richa...@opm.gov Does anyone have any REXX code to grab English description FMID table entries out of GIM.SGIMTENU's BCNFMDS member by passing it the FMID in question? I am writing some code to parse information from the ERROR SYSMODS Report and want to

Re: DFHSM QUESTION - UNABLE TO BACKUP DSN - THANK YOU

2009-05-29 Thread willie bunter
I have made a request to change the option to use TAPE(TASKS(1)).  It seems that this problem has been always there - inherited it from a client who came on board 2 years ago.   If I get the green light from the client, I will change the TAPE(TASKS to (1) and issued the RELEASE

Re: FMID descriptions

2009-05-29 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Tony, I'll definitely look into that web link. In the meantime, thanks to Miklos and especially to Bob Rutledge, I have a working solution that I can modify to suit my own purposes. Now, I wonder if Kurt will chime in? grin Bob -

Re: DFHSM QUESTION - UNABLE TO BACKUP DSN - THANK YOU

2009-05-29 Thread Ulrich Krueger
Do I need to hard the command in the PARMLIB? Willie, AFAIK, you can issue a HSEND SETSYS ... to make the change on the fly. But, for the change to be valid beyond the next IPL (or DFHSM restart), you need to update your ARCCMDxx in PARMLIB. While you're in there, review the command options and

Re: FMID descriptions

2009-05-29 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 29 May 2009 17:40:07 +0200, Miklos Szigetvari miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com wrote: This worked for me: /* REXX */ ADDRESS TSO ALLOC FI(ISPPROF) DA('ESA.ISPF.ISPPROF') SHR REUSE ADDRESS ISPEXEC TBOPEN BCNFMDS NOWRITE TBTOP BCNFMDS DO WHILE RC = 0 TBSKIP BCNFMDS TBGET

Re: DFHSM QUESTION - UNABLE TO BACKUP DSN - THANK YOU

2009-05-29 Thread willie bunter
Ulirich.   Thanks for the sound advice.  I will adhere to it.  Thanks again. --- On Fri, 5/29/09, Ulrich Krueger u...@pacbell.net wrote: From: Ulrich Krueger u...@pacbell.net Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - UNABLE TO BACKUP DSN - THANK YOU To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Received: Friday, May 29, 2009,

Re: Duplicate temp file

2009-05-29 Thread Howard Brazee
On 28 May 2009 08:21:54 -0700, z...@cdc.gov (Burrell, C. Todd , CDC/OCOO/ITSO, CTR) wrote: I would think that running these same procs over and over in the same job would make the finders file pretty useless? I would think you would want a second step to process the finders file, and then

Re: Duplicate temp file

2009-05-29 Thread Howard Brazee
I mentioned this case to a co-worker and she had a problem which was harder to figure out. Some user wrote some jobs which had EasyTrieves followed by copying the temporary file to tape. The process didn't make much sense, and was without error checking. But the odd thing was, when he ran

Re: Duplicate temp file

2009-05-29 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I changed the names of finders to be unique in each proc as the simplest solution to this problem. I stopped specifying the name, at all, for temp files. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff

Re: Duplicate temp file

2009-05-29 Thread Howard Brazee
On 28 May 2009 08:24:20 -0700, d...@lists.duda.com (David Andrews) wrote: Use referbacks in your receiving steps (DSN=*.stepname.ddname) instead of temporary dataset names (DSN=name). They're a bit awkward, but eliminate the duplicate dataset name issue. Quoting the JCL Reference: To ensure

Re: Duplicate temp file

2009-05-29 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Howard Brazee Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 12:40 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Duplicate temp file I mentioned this case to a co-worker and she had a problem which was

Re: Duplicate temp file

2009-05-29 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Trouble is - those procs usually run in their own jobs. I don't understand what you're trying to say. What is the problem with PROCs running in their own jobs? Not assigning names to a DD shouldn't be an issue in this case. - Too busy driving to stop for gas!

Re: Java V5 s0c4

2009-05-29 Thread Howard Brazee
On 28 May 2009 12:11:33 -0700, eamacn...@yahoo.ca (Ted MacNEIL) wrote: We Mac's get it all the time. Mc is more common. Also, lots of people don't capitalise the N. Not to mention software. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: Duplicate temp file

2009-05-29 Thread John McKown
On Fri, 29 May 2009 12:51:04 -0500, McKown, John jmck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: The second temporary file likely got the same extents as a previous temporary file. But I thought that SMS now forced an EOF to be written at allocation time. Are your temporary volumes not SMS managed? I know that

Re: FMID descriptions

2009-05-29 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
... I looked at the various SMP/E LIST commands, but parsing any one of those reports seems to be overkill for my purposes. You could do UNLOAD FUNCTIONS instead of LIST and that output should be much easier to parse. Kurt Q, feel free to jump in here and tell me that it is possible run

Re: Duplicate temp file

2009-05-29 Thread Howard Brazee
On 29 May 2009 10:54:49 -0700, eamacn...@yahoo.ca (Ted MacNEIL) wrote: Trouble is - those procs usually run in their own jobs. I don't understand what you're trying to say. What is the problem with PROCs running in their own jobs? Not assigning names to a DD shouldn't be an issue in this

Re: Duplicate temp file

2009-05-29 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I guess I don't understand. The temp file doesn't need a name? Not specified in the JCL. //TEMP DD UNIT=DISK,SPACE=(CYL,(5,3)) - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-05-29 Thread Tony Harminc
2009/5/29 Jodi Everdon jever...@us.ibm.com Did you happen to read the last issue of z/OS Hot Topics? I think you'll be pleasantly surprised by the story of page 4. It's the first is our series. Our next issue comes out in August with more in the series. We are also publishing another

Re: Duplicate temp file

2009-05-29 Thread David Andrews
On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 15:14 -0400, Howard Brazee wrote: The temp file doesn't need a name? That's exactly correct! Example: //STEP1 EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 //SENDER DD UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(TRK,1),DISP=(,PASS) //STEP2 EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 //RECEIVER DD DSN=*.STEP1.SENDER,DISP=(OLD,DELETE) -- David Andrews

SMP/E packaging of maintence / products (was: FMID descriptions)

2009-05-29 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Kurt Quackenbush Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 1:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: FMID descriptions ... I looked at the various SMP/E LIST commands, but parsing any

Re: Duplicate temp file

2009-05-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 29 May 2009 12:54:36 -0500, John McKown @SWBELL.NET wrote: On Fri, 29 May 2009 12:51:04 -0500, McKown, John @HEALTHMARKETS.COM You figured out how to circumvent the HIPAA noise? wrote: The second temporary file likely got the same extents as a previous temporary file. But I thought

Re: Duplicate temp file

2009-05-29 Thread Ted MacNEIL
And since then, and yet, I wonder why IBM doesn't DTRT and modify allocation to unconditionally write an EOF, regardless of DSORG, SMS, whatever. Are they fearful of the performance impact? What's the EOF on a PDS? PDSE? Indexed VSAM? There are issues! - Too busy driving to stop for gas!

Re: Duplicate temp file

2009-05-29 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 2:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Duplicate temp file On Fri, 29 May 2009 12:54:36 -0500, John McKown @SWBELL.NET wrote: On

Re: Duplicate temp file

2009-05-29 Thread Howard Brazee
On 29 May 2009 12:30:59 -0700, d...@lists.duda.com (David Andrews) wrote: On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 15:14 -0400, Howard Brazee wrote: The temp file doesn't need a name? That's exactly correct! Example: //STEP1 EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 //SENDER DD UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(TRK,1),DISP=(,PASS) //STEP2 EXEC

Re: Duplicate temp file

2009-05-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 29 May 2009 20:02:54 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: And since then, and yet, I wonder why IBM doesn't DTRT and modify allocation to unconditionally write an EOF, regardless of DSORG, SMS, whatever. Are they fearful of the performance impact? What's the EOF on a PDS? PDSE? Indexed VSAM? It

Re: 3592 Upgrade in an ATL to TS1130's

2009-05-29 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 12:29 -0400 on 05/28/2009, Ken Porowski wrote about 3592 Upgrade in an ATL to TS1130's: We are about to upgrade our ATL (3494) tape drives from 3592-J1A and 3592-E05 (aka TS1120) to 3592-E06 and 3592-EU6 (aka TS1130). These are the only 3592 drives in the ATL and all are on the same

Re: Punched Card Combinations (WAS Book on Poughkeepsie)

2009-05-29 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 15:35 -0400 on 05/28/2009, Clark Kidd wrote about Punched Card Combinations (WAS Book on Poughkeepsie): As I remember, there were three control rows at the top of the card (12, 11, 0) and then 9 data rows (1-9) under those. So each possible column would contain up to 12 rows that could be

IEC161I message when reading HSM MCDS

2009-05-29 Thread Lizette Koehler
List - When I run a DCOLLECT using the MCDS and BCDS dataset in my JCL I get the following error message IEC161I 009-0663,LK41591B,DCOLLECT,MCDS,,,SYS1.DFSMSHSM.MCDS This is not making sense. I am reading the IEC161I and I am not clear on what it is trying to say. Any ideas? Lizette

Re: IEC161I message when reading HSM MCDS

2009-05-29 Thread Scott Barry
On Fri, 29 May 2009 17:31:17 -0400, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote: List - When I run a DCOLLECT using the MCDS and BCDS dataset in my JCL I get the following error message IEC161I 009-0663,LK41591B,DCOLLECT,MCDS,,,SYS1.DFSMSHSM.MCDS This is not making sense. I am reading the

Re: IEC161I message when reading HSM MCDS

2009-05-29 Thread Traylor, Terry
Are your shareoptions(2,3)? Terry Traylor charlesSCHWAB TIS Mainframe Storage Management Remedy Queue: tis-hs-mstg (602) 977-5154 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 2:31 PM To:

Re: FMID descriptions

2009-05-29 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
Mark Zelden wrote: Bob and I spoke off-list about this. SMP/E is a bad spot for what he is looking for. Too many FMIDs are part of z/OS base. For example, RACF (HRF*). Huh? Given the FMIDs reported by REPORT ERRSYSMODS, I thought Bob was asking for a method to obtain the DESCRIPTION for

Re: 3592 Upgrade in an ATL to TS1130's

2009-05-29 Thread Scott Rowe
Robert, it's the same media type, as long as the dataclass specifies (or allows) a recording format other than EFMT1, everything will be fine. Robert A. Rosenberg hal9...@panix.com 05/29/09 5:07 PM Based on the above you should also stock the ATL with EFMT2/3 media so you can continue to

Re: SMP/E packaging of maintence / products (was: FMID descriptions)

2009-05-29 Thread Gibney, Dave
So far, I've been able to use one mod-9 for SMPNTS and one mod-9 for SMPWKDIR, both HFS. But it does take 3 mod-3's to hold all the various roots for z/OS. Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: SMP/E packaging of maintence / products (was: FMID descriptions)

2009-05-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 29 May 2009 18:22:11 -0400, Kurt Quackenbush wrote: McKown, John wrote: Could I ask a question which I know you likely cannot answer. But, if possible, could you explain why the SMP/E Internet download stuff in SMP/E uses UNIX files to store the data rather than z/OS legacy type

Re: SMP/E packaging of maintence / products (was: FMID descriptions)

2009-05-29 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
McKown, John wrote: Could I ask a question which I know you likely cannot answer. But, if possible, could you explain why the SMP/E Internet download stuff in SMP/E uses UNIX files to store the data rather than z/OS legacy type datasets (perhaps compressed with TERSE or XMIT'ed)? As a matter

Re: FMID descriptions

2009-05-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 29 May 2009 14:43:25 -0400, Kurt Quackenbush wrote: Just provides FMID and DESCRIPTION? Nope, nothing that simple exists. What fun would that be? You could of course write a program (a real program, not REXX) that uses GIMAPI to read the zone and extract exactly this info, but I dare say

Re: SMP/E packaging of maintence / products (was: FMID descriptions)

2009-05-29 Thread Howard Rifkind
Kurt, I also find this a pain in the a__. Is it still IBM's purpose to 'Make this more difficult so we will understand it' You took something that worked real well and messed it up. How about two procedures, one for the z/OS-z/VM and one for HFS/OMVS/UNIX fixes??? --- On Fri, 5/29/09, Kurt

Re: SMP/E packaging of maintence / products (was: FMID descriptions)

2009-05-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 29 May 2009 16:00:47 -0700, Howard Rifkind wrote: I also find this a pain in the a__. Is it still IBM's purpose to 'Make this more difficult so we will understand it' You took something that worked real well and messed it up. Err... How did the earlier something work real well for

Re: FMID descriptions

2009-05-29 Thread Shane
On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 17:52 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: Grrr. (Bristling at the aura of condescension.) It's an unconscionable oversight that SMP/E elected to design GIMAPI in a Rexx-hostile style. I'd be prepared to cut Kurt some slack, and trust his answer was composed with a modicum of

Re: IEC161I message when reading HSM MCDS

2009-05-29 Thread Lizette Koehler
Scott - Somehow I missed that when I searched. Lizette List - When I run a DCOLLECT using the MCDS and BCDS dataset in my JCL I get the following error message IEC161I 009-0663,LK41591B,DCOLLECT,MCDS,,,SYS1.DFSMSHSM.MCDS This is not making sense. I am reading the IEC161I and I am

Re: SMP/E packaging of maintence / products (was: FMID descriptions)

2009-05-29 Thread Scott T. Harder
Wasn't IBM going to, at one point, wrap something around SMP/E so that it essentially ran under the covers and the user had a *much* simpler interface (so to speak)?? -- All the best, Scott T. Harder On 5/29/09, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: On Fri, 29 May 2009 16:00:47 -0700,

Re: SMP/E packaging of maintence / products (was: FMID descriptions)

2009-05-29 Thread John McKown
On Fri, 29 May 2009, Kurt Quackenbush wrote: snip I'm sure we could have made other choices, and I'm sure some folks on this list will be more than happy to point them out to me. Be that as it may, the format we landed on was and is UNIX files. It is unfortunate you have to jump through

Re: 3592 Upgrade in an ATL to TS1130's

2009-05-29 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 18:14 -0400 on 05/29/2009, Scott Rowe wrote about Re: 3592 Upgrade in an ATL to TS1130's: Robert, it's the same media type, as long as the dataclass specifies (or allows) a recording format other than EFMT1, everything will be fine. OOPS. So as the volume gets scratched, it can be

Re: SMP/E packaging of maintence / products (was: FMID descriptions)

2009-05-29 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 18:12 -0500 on 05/29/2009, Paul Gilmartin wrote about Re: SMP/E packaging of maintence / products (was: FMID desc: On Fri, 29 May 2009 16:00:47 -0700, Howard Rifkind wrote: I also find this a pain in the a__. Is it still IBM's purpose to 'Make this more difficult so we will understand

Re: SMP/E packaging of maintence / products (was: FMID descriptions)

2009-05-29 Thread Bobbie Jo
good grief, why do you keep fighting with the storage admins? make one zFS download extended format dataset on ONE permanently mounted mod 54 volume, and be done with it. use that download file system for z/OS, cics, db2, program products, etc. Use skulker to keep it clean of old files.