Re: SYSPLEX/CFRM Couple dataset(s) relationship

2010-04-12 Thread Zaromil Tisler
We have done quite a lot of DR testing in the last year and a half. We defined all coupling facilities in our active CFRM policy, the same way Alan C. Field described, and never had a problem IPLing our sysplex. The only difference is that we start JES2 with RECONFIG parameter, to set the CKPT1 (al

MFNetDisk will be a free product soon.

2010-04-12 Thread Shai Hess
HI, In a few days I will make MFNetDisk really a free product. That mean you will be able to work without the limitation of number of devices. Why I am doing this: 1. I do not think that there is a space for another IO devices in MF. 2. The price of MF IO devices is very low and the competi

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2010-04-12 Thread Ed Gould
From: Ron Hawkins To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Mon, April 12, 2010 10:46:05 AM Subject: Alan, I regularly bring 100s of volumes offline and online and have not seen this problem. I submit the jobs in the same way as you do. The only difference is I usually hav

slightly OT INTEL shipping 48 core chip

2010-04-12 Thread Ed Gould
>http://hothardware.com/News/Holy-Mega-Multitasking-Batman-Intel-Handing-Out-Samples-of-Experimental-48Core-Chip/ Wonder what (if anything) this does with IBM's offering? My memory is hazy here, has IBM shipped any of the 60 processor configurations(yet)? Ed ps: Watch the wrap -

Re: CA Vtape vs. IBM VTFM - Comparing virtual tape solutions

2010-04-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:09:20 -0500, Todd Last wrote: > >We are looking at replacing our appliance-based mainframe virtual tape >solutions with software-based virtual tape solutions. The only two solutions >that I know of are CA's VTape and IBM's VTFM. ... > Do any of the options employ AWSTAPE or

Re: Putting system integrity at risk to save software charges (was "What is ziip and zaap" Training/doc)

2010-04-12 Thread Barbara Nitz
>Arriving there and not in supervisor state would be fairly astonishing to >the BCP and as I am fond of saying, it is never a good idea to astonish the >BCP. LOL. Chris, may I use this in future? Regards, Barbara -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: Non-SMS-managed LOGR offload data sets

2010-04-12 Thread Barbara Nitz
Nick, from your email I figured you're somewhere in LOGR development :-) And I am absolutely glad someone finally 'gets' my paranoia. I have a hard time getting the problem across to my colleagues, too! Mostly because they don't really understand how offload works. >Ahh now I understand your p

Re: omvs.root full due to pfa

2010-04-12 Thread Shane Ginnane
I haven't played with this Have a look at the Problem Management manual , Part 2. Has some info on where you would be expected to install it (by default), and how to mount a [zh]fs for it. There is is even a script shipped to clear out things for you. Shane ... --

Re: CA Vtape vs. IBM VTFM - Comparing virtual tape solutions

2010-04-12 Thread Timothy Sipples
Todd, could you amplify a bit on what's "bad" about your current virtual tape? I think that would help in advising whether a particular software-based approach would be a good fit or not. I didn't understand the DR point you raised. There are many shops that have virtual tape hardware in their pro

Re: omvs.root full due to pfa

2010-04-12 Thread Gibney, Dave
z/OS 1.9 U used < 2 3390-3 volumes per LPAR for HFS. z/OS 1.11 I'm using 4 for ZFS 1. ROOT (and Etc) 2. JAVA (all 4) 3. XML 4. Websphere (PFA?) In Production LPAR, I'll probably have another for VAR. Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University > -Original Messa

Re: omvs.root full due to pfa

2010-04-12 Thread Neubert, Kevin
Just to get you moving... Are you sure you don't have mountpoints you can temporarily work off of--/etc, /tmp, /var, etc.? See MVS Command D OMVS,F or USS Command df. Otherwise it appears to me you will need to backup the filesystem and delete something innocuous so you can work. As for split

Re: Putting system integrity at risk to save software charges

2010-04-12 Thread Henry Willard
George Henke wrote: > Shadow from Data Direct does this painlessly. > > I am totally independent of this vendor, so I can be objective. > > But a former client of mine implemented their product several years ago and > extended the life of their 2 GPP configure enormously with very little cost. > >

Re: Putting system integrity at risk to save software charges

2010-04-12 Thread Chris Craddock
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:12 PM, George Henke wrote: > Shadow from Data Direct does this painlessly. > > I am totally independent of this vendor, so I can be objective. > I am totally independent of this vendor, so I can be objective too. I just want to be clear on one point - at least with reg

omvs.root full due to pfa

2010-04-12 Thread Howard Whitehead
Hello everyone. I kinda got myself into a pickle and I hope you can help. I am installing z/OS 1.11 and before I knew what was happening, PFA (which was at default values in the parms) was writing a bunch of data to my OMVS.ROOT and I started getting messages that it was full. So to get past P

Re: Speaking of SCRT

2010-04-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>> And, many disciplines, such as capacity planning. >> Example: type 30, type 110 do not have serial numbers, LPAR names, etc. >> Type 72, 74, etc don't have them either. >So what? I don't see any relationship to 110 or 30. Then obviously you've never done Capacity Planning, Performance Manageme

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Re: Putting system integrity at risk to save software charges

2010-04-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:06:19 +, john gilmore wrote: > > ... floating-point registers must be saved when they are heavily used ... > What about when they're used only lightly? And what criterion distinguishes between heavy and light? -- gil

Re: Putting system integrity at risk to save software charges

2010-04-12 Thread George Henke
Shadow from Data Direct does this painlessly. I am totally independent of this vendor, so I can be objective. But a former client of mine implemented their product several years ago and extended the life of their 2 GPP configure enormously with very little cost. The installation was transparent

CA Vtape vs. IBM VTFM - Comparing virtual tape solutions

2010-04-12 Thread Todd Last
Hey All: We are looking at replacing our appliance-based mainframe virtual tape solutions with software-based virtual tape solutions. The only two solutions that I know of are CA's VTape and IBM's VTFM. Since we outsource our mainframe DR, a software-based virtual tape solution looks promising

Re: Manuals of the HMC

2010-04-12 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 4/12/2010 2:57:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time, kevin.neub...@courts.wa.gov writes: There was also a new Redbook published earlier this year. Introduction to the System z Hardware Management Console (SG24-7748) _http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247748.html_ (http://

Re: Manuals of the HMC

2010-04-12 Thread Neubert, Kevin
Try Hardware Management Console Operation Guide (SC28-6859) http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg245aa5c1a9afc2ab0852572ce004f9084. There was also a new Redbook published earlier this year. Introduction to the System z Hardware Management Console (SG24-7748) http://www.redbooks.ibm

Re: Manuals of the HMC

2010-04-12 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2010-04-12 21:18, HELIO pisze: Hi All, I'm trying to find a manuals of the HMC (Hardware Management Console) configuration, operation... I'm not having much luck. Does anyone know where can find them? Resourcelink. http://www.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink Logon required. -- Radoslaw Sko

Re: How many mainframes are there?

2010-04-12 Thread Wayne Driscoll
My first job out of college was as a systems programmer. When I was hired, the group consisted of 8 sysprogs, and of them at least 2 had been hired straight out college as sysprogs. Also, during my tenure, we hired 2 other college grads as sysprogs. 4 of the five of us all went to the same c

Re: Speaking of SCRT

2010-04-12 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2010-04-12 21:22, Ted MacNEIL pisze: No. The simplest way is to use identifier which is always unique, i.e. LPARname optionally qualified with CPC serial. None of those are in the type 89, iirc. Bad assumption. See documentation. Last, but not least: I see nothing wrong in CHANGE. It n

Re: RMM and VRSMIN

2010-04-12 Thread Pinnacle
David, VRSMIN is a fail-safe switch added to RMM years ago to prevent accidental scratching of tapes if somehow the VRS's were deleted. Set it as low as you like, but if you have 1500or more, then 1000 is a good number. Pick a threshold below which you know that VRSEL should not run. Regar

Manuals of the HMC

2010-04-12 Thread HELIO
Hi All, I'm trying to find a manuals of the HMC (Hardware Management Console) configuration, operation... I'm not having much luck. Does anyone know where can find them? -- Hélio José da Silva Depto. Software Básico -- For

Manuals of the HMC

2010-04-12 Thread HELIO
Hi All, I'm trying to find a manuals of the HMC (Hardware Management Console) configuration, operation... I'm not having much luck. Does anyone know where can find them? -- Hélio José da Silva Depto. Software Básico -- For

Re: REPOST with Subject: COMMAND processing limit??

2010-04-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Also, no messages are "thrown away", every message is queued to the log >_before_ it is considered for queueing to a console Didn't NETView used to have a method of suppressing messages from both/either the SYSLOG and the NETLOG? I seem to recall two options for both of these: SYSLOG(x) NETLO

Re: pseudonyms

2010-04-12 Thread Howard Brazee
>Pseudonyms can be used to avoid capture by authorities. Although electronic media can be traced by someone willing to put in the effort. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not t

Re: How many mainframes are there?

2010-04-12 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Howard Brazee > Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 2:23 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: How many mainframes are there? > > On 12 Apr 2010 07:40:55 -0700, wgshi...@benekeith.com (

Re: How many mainframes are there?

2010-04-12 Thread Howard Brazee
On 12 Apr 2010 07:40:55 -0700, wgshi...@benekeith.com (Greg Shirey) wrote: >An instructor from Verhoef made the observation in a class I attended >that he had never met a mainframe systems programmer whose first job >was as a systems programmer, and his students invariably would say that >they we

Re: Speaking of SCRT

2010-04-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>No. The simplest way is to use identifier which is always unique, i.e. >LPARname optionally qualified with CPC serial. None of those are in the type 89, iirc. The only guarantee is the SMFID, which is in the common header section for all SMF records, identifying which system cut the record. S

Re: products or system components applying cross-memory FASTAUTH requests

2010-04-12 Thread Walt Farrell
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 20:32:24 +0200, Dr. Stephen Fedtke wrote: >does anybody know products or system components applying (massive) >cross-memory FASTAUTH requests, maybe also in an SRB environment, in order >to get more experience with tricky situations for the ICHRFX03/04 exits. At least: ICSF

Re: Speaking of SCRT

2010-04-12 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2010-04-12 20:49, Ted MacNEIL pisze: 4. (unrelated to original problem, but related to SCRT). IMO requirement for unique SMF ID is silly and technically unfounded. I disagree. I've always had unique SMF id's, long before SCRT came out. As a Capacity Analyst, it's the simplest way to ide

Re: Putting system integrity at risk to save software charges

2010-04-12 Thread john gilmore
CC's very recent post was timely. I spent three days recently bailing out a dubious conversion of some not very good TCB-driven code to run under just one SRB. The converter had not understood much of anything about what he was doing; and his problems were aggravated by the fact that

Re: products or system components applying cross-memory FASTAUTH requests

2010-04-12 Thread Chris Craddock
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Dr. Stephen Fedtke < max_mainframe_...@fedtke.com> wrote: > does anybody know products or system components applying (massive) > cross-memory FASTAUTH requests, maybe also in an SRB environment, in order > to get more experience with tricky situations for the ICHRF

Re: REPOST with Subject: COMMAND processing limit??

2010-04-12 Thread Scott Fagen
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 10:29:31 -0500, McKown, John wrote: > >Part of the console restructure was to "through away" commands and responses when the *CONSOLE* (or was it *MASTER*?) address space's region started getting full. There is even a message to tell you of this > > >Commands that run in the *M

Re: How to define couple links using HCD

2010-04-12 Thread Neubert, Kevin
If you are new to peer mode this is a good white paper on the subject http://www-03.ibm.com/support/techdocs/atsmastr.nsf/WebIndex/WP100265. Though there appears to be a newer one which I have not read-WP100820. Otherwise to strictly answer your question on how to define the links the HCD piec

Re: Speaking of SCRT

2010-04-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>4. (unrelated to original problem, but related to SCRT). IMO requirement for >unique SMF ID is silly and technically unfounded. I disagree. I've always had unique SMF id's, long before SCRT came out. As a Capacity Analyst, it's the simplest way to identify systems uniquely. So, I don't find SCRT

Re: z/os manuals

2010-04-12 Thread McKown, John
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products or system components applying cross-memory FASTAUTH requests

2010-04-12 Thread Dr. Stephen Fedtke
hi all, does anybody know products or system components applying (massive) cross-memory FASTAUTH requests, maybe also in an SRB environment, in order to get more experience with tricky situations for the ICHRFX03/04 exits. many thanks! best stephen --- Dr. Stephen Fedtke Enterprise-IT-Security

Re: z/os manuals

2010-04-12 Thread Walt Farrell
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 14:06:21 -0400, GOODWIN, DIANE M. wrote: >I'm trying to find a copy of the z/OS 1.10 MVS Extended Addressability >Guide. I'm not having much luck. Does anyone know if the book was >merged into another book? http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/Shelves/EZ2ZBK

Re: z/os manuals

2010-04-12 Thread Campbell Jay
And change the 570 to 560 for R10. Jay Campbell IBM OS Support Section -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of J R Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 2:12 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: z/os manuals Don't know about R10 but

Re: z/os manuals

2010-04-12 Thread J R
Don't know about R10 but R11 is here http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/iea2a570.pdf > Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 14:06:21 -0400 > From: dgood...@amica.com > Subject: z/os manuals > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > > I'm trying to find a copy of the z/OS 1.10 MVS Extended Addressability > Guide.

z/os manuals

2010-04-12 Thread GOODWIN, DIANE M.
I'm trying to find a copy of the z/OS 1.10 MVS Extended Addressability Guide. I'm not having much luck. Does anyone know if the book was merged into another book? Diane M. Goodwin IT System Adminstration Specialist Amica Insurance Company "I'm not a cynic. I'm a disappointed optimist." - Geor

Re: Speaking of SCRT

2010-04-12 Thread R.S.
My €0.02: 1. I *hate* CAPS ON, especially automatic switch when lowercase character is found (although this is NOT the case). I wish I would have option for CAPS in profile. 2. Method of SCRT delivery is error prone. IMHO it would be better at least to supply it as PDS, so the code would be in

Re: RMM and VRSMIN

2010-04-12 Thread Roberto Halais
Could the VRS deletes occur thru some batch utility? On 4/12/10, David G. Schlecht wrote: > > Hi All, > > We're considering changing the EDGRMM PARMLIB member to set VRSMIN to some > minimal value such as 1000 and FAIL. But, for the life of me, I just can't > see a benefit for this. Looking ov

RMM and VRSMIN

2010-04-12 Thread David G. Schlecht
Hi All, We're considering changing the EDGRMM PARMLIB member to set VRSMIN to some minimal value such as 1000 and FAIL. But, for the life of me, I just can't see a benefit for this. Looking over the books, this seems that it would only benefit us in the event someone accidentally deleted thous

Re: How many mainframes are there?

2010-04-12 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 4/12/2010 12:31:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time, cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca writes: have reinstalled with little or no problem. Quicken 2006 won't print reports because of a missing PDF driver but otherwise is OK. Upward compatibility seems decent. >> Only had to format

Re: How many mainframes are there?

2010-04-12 Thread Clark Morris
On 12 Apr 2010 05:57:51 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >"Our Windows and Network Brethren are still in the Chaos stage. But have >to admit, Windows is finally getting some order (so they say); like >being upward compatible." > >LOL > >IMO, Windows has never heard of upward compatabil

Re: Font names for AFP fonts

2010-04-12 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 4/12/2010 11:21:49 A.M. Central Daylight Time, howard.turet...@infoprint.com writes: You can find the Font Library Index Program (FLIP) included with DCF (still available) and AFP Toolbox (also available). FLIP produces a report of all the fonts in a library (not just I

Re: REPOST with Subject: COMMAND processing limit??

2010-04-12 Thread Field, Alan C.
Thanks everybody. The reminders about CMDS, console restructure etc are what I wasn't remembering. I did see a bunch of these messages in the SYSLOG: IEE318I D20C CANNOT BE VARIED ONLINE - VOLUME CANNOT BE READ IEE318I D20B CANNOT BE VARIED ONLINE - VOLUME CANNOT BE READ The volum

Re: Putting system integrity at risk to save software charges (was "What is ziip and zaap" Training/doc)

2010-04-12 Thread Chris Craddock
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4) < peter.hunke...@credit-suisse.com> wrote: > >An SRB receives control in supervisor state. And while it can L(E)PSW > >itself to problem state, it will not be able to get back to supervisor. > > The manual says: > > "9.5.1 Implications of Ru

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2010-04-12 Thread Lizette Koehler
Alan, In OS/390 V2.9 (I think) IBM provided an mvs command called CMDS. It can display or remove various types of MVS commands from the queue. You might want to put a trigger in place to issue the CMDS SHOW when this job starts to see what all else might be going on. CMDS D or CMDS DISPLAY D

Re: z/VSE manual

2010-04-12 Thread Steve Austin
Thanks everyone I've now the manual. Steve -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chris Mason Sent: 12 April 2010 16:52 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: z/VSE manual Steve I recently had occasion to locate the z/VSE IP-based

Re: Speaking of SCRT

2010-04-12 Thread Richards, Robert B.
I have no clue as to when the profile was switched. The particular member I am alluding to is a member that has *only* the ESD object text. Because I do not normally try to read that , I missed the case change. I finally spotted what was happening and corrected the offending member's profile. F

Re: Font names for AFP fonts

2010-04-12 Thread Howard Turetzky
There have been a number of IBM font offerings. The two current general font offerings are AFP Font Collection and Infoprint Fonts. AFP Font Collection (5648-B33) is the older offering. It contains both outline and raster fonts. Some fonts are not quite up-to-date with characters and code point

Re: Speaking of SCRT

2010-04-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 11:35:37 -0400, Richards, Robert B. wrote: > >Somehow, the member I was copying into had gotten switched from CAPS OFF to >CAPS ON. > It's a good idea to use mixed case in one's comments, so if CAPS ON corrupts your file, the change is visibly apparent. I suspect Shane will di

Re: Posting ECB's, SRB's, Across Region Boundaries - Pre CMS

2010-04-12 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 11:24:00 -0400 George Henke wrote: :>Please tell me what is the significance of the Compare-And-Swap (CS) to :>insure serialization across tasks. Methinks you need to read about multitasking. :>Also what do they mean by a pause token. Is this just a DC F(0)? Look at the IE

Re: z/VSE manual

2010-04-12 Thread Rich Smrcina
The book server version is here: http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/vse.html On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Chris Mason wrote: > Steve > > I recently had occasion to locate the z/VSE IP-based software and the page > with the following URL is still "on my desktop": > > http://www-03

Re: z/VSE manual

2010-04-12 Thread Chris Mason
Steve I recently had occasion to locate the z/VSE IP-based software and the page with the following URL is still "on my desktop": http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/zvsepdf/#tcpip_vse15 Chris Mason On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 16:25:59 +0100, Steve Austin wrote: >Hello, > >Is there a z/V

Re: REPOST with Subject: COMMAND processing limit??

2010-04-12 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 10:20:50 -0500, Field, Alan C. wrote: >The user complains that sometimes some of the commands don't execute, as >witnessed by a subsequent job failing because one or more of the volumes >are off line. The commands don't execute? Or perhaps you mean that at some time after a

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2010-04-12 Thread Ron Hawkins
Alan, I regularly bring 100s of volumes offline and online and have not seen this problem. I submit the jobs in the same way as you do. The only difference is I usually have one command per LCU which makes it easier for me to eyeball my changes when I'm setting up tests. Ron > -Original Mess

Re: Posting ECB's, SRB's, Across Region Boundaries - Pre CMS

2010-04-12 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
gahe...@gmail.com (George Henke) writes: > Please tell me what is the significance of the Compare-And-Swap (CS) to > insure serialization across tasks. atomic operation ... does compare and only makes change if value compared hasn't changed when store is performed (possible because task was suspen

Re: z/VSE manual

2010-04-12 Thread Charles Mills
Last I knew the VSE manuals were available in the same manner as z/OS manuals on the IBM publications site. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Steve Austin Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 8:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu

Re: Speaking of SCRT

2010-04-12 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Call off the dogs...stupid user error. Somehow, the member I was copying into had gotten switched from CAPS OFF to CAPS ON. While this gives credence to Gadi's assertion that the update process is error-prone, I concur with those that want to keep this update process out of SMP/E's purview. B

Re: USS regular expression

2010-04-12 Thread Matan Cohen
thanks you all. i add .profile to my user with apropiate LC_ALL and it is work. I'll now will check how to solve it in the script level. On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 09:30:13 -0500, McKown, John wrote: > > > >Under both TSO/OMVS and telnet, I show L

Re: REPOST with Subject: COMMAND processing limit??

2010-04-12 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Field, Alan C. > Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:21 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: REPOST with Subject: COMMAND processing limit?? > > We have a batch job that uses the COMMAN

z/VSE manual

2010-04-12 Thread Steve Austin
Hello, Is there a z/VSE equivalent of the z/OS Extended Addressability Guide? Where are the VSE manuals? I'm looking to 'port' some z/OS PC-ss routines to z/VSE if possible and would like to find out if ETDEF, ETCON, etc exist on VSE. As you have probably guessed I am not familiar with VSE. Tha

Re: Posting ECB's, SRB's, Across Region Boundaries - Pre CMS

2010-04-12 Thread George Henke
Please tell me what is the significance of the Compare-And-Swap (CS) to insure serialization across tasks. Also what do they mean by a pause token. Is this just a DC F(0)? On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Binyamin Dissen < bdis...@dissensoftware.com> wrote: > On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 10:55:43 -0400

REPOST with Subject: COMMAND processing limit??

2010-04-12 Thread Field, Alan C.
We have a batch job that uses the COMMAND program to issue commands. One of the uses is to issue 580 V ,ONLINE commands. These are directed to one menber of a SYSPLEX (no ROUTE command involved). The user complains that sometimes some of the commands don't execute, as witnessed by

Re: Posting ECB's, SRB's, Across Region Boundaries - Pre CMS

2010-04-12 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 10:55:43 -0400 George Henke wrote: :>My question was triggered by the following excerpt which "begs the question" :>from a link in a prior ZIIP/ZAAP post last week: :>Some workarounds can circumvent these restrictions. For example, “ECB wait” :>can be :>emulated from within a

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2010-04-12 Thread Field, Alan C.
We have a batch job that uses the COMMAND program to issue commands. One of the uses is to issue 580 V ,ONLINE commands. These are directed to one menber of a SYSPLEX (no ROUTE command involved). The user complains that sometimes some of the commands don't execute, as witnessed by a s

Re: (slightly OT) CA is laying off 1,000 workers and expects to take a $50m hit in pre-tax charges relating to the jobs cull

2010-04-12 Thread Rick Fochtman
-- Ron Hawkins wrote: John, I think zMAN is a different kettle of fish to P-E. zMAN has acknowledged his mistake and humbled himself twice. The only thing stopping us moving on are a few predators that want to keep tak

Re: Posting ECB's, SRB's, Across Region Boundaries - Pre CMS

2010-04-12 Thread George Henke
My question was triggered by the following excerpt which "begs the question" from a link in a prior ZIIP/ZAAP post last week: Some workarounds can circumvent these restrictions. For example, “ECB wait” can be emulated from within an SRB through the creative use of z/OS extended ECBs, which allow

Re: SCRT Delivery

2010-04-12 Thread Kelman, Tom
I agree with John. Since I, as the performance analyst/capacity planner here, am responsible for sub-capacity pricing processes, I can easily install SCRT into libraries that I control. Since it has no affect on external customers, I don't have to go through heavy duty change control. If it were

Re: How many mainframes are there?

2010-04-12 Thread Mark Pace
I never thought of that. But it was my case. I started as a programmer. Refused to use COBOL when Assembler would do the job and was asked if I wanted to join the Systems programming group. After that I never wanted to do anything except systems programming. On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Gr

Re: pseudonyms

2010-04-12 Thread Howard Brazee
On 11 Apr 2010 15:52:15 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >Pseudonyms have a long and often honorable history. How many of you who are >not francophone >know that Voltaire's "real" name is François-Marie Arouet? I'm sort of the other way around, if you asked me who François-Marie Arou

Re: Posting ECB's, SRB's, Across Region Boundaries - Pre CMS

2010-04-12 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 10:32:21 -0400 George Henke wrote: :>Would someone in the know please recall how this was done prior to Cross :>Memory Service (CMS)? :>It seems to be an issue once again now that ziip/zaap is here and everyone :>wants to know how to convert TCB workloads to SRB workloads so

Re: How many mainframes are there?

2010-04-12 Thread Greg Shirey
An instructor from Verhoef made the observation in a class I attended that he had never met a mainframe systems programmer whose first job was as a systems programmer, and his students invariably would say that they were invited to become a systems programmer. So, he always said "Welcome to the c

Re: USS regular expression

2010-04-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 09:30:13 -0500, McKown, John wrote: > >Under both TSO/OMVS and telnet, I show LANG=C. I use Hummingbird as my TN3270 >emulator. In the emulator, there is a "Host Code Page" which I have set to >"English-US Latin 1 / Open Systems (1047)". I don't know what emulator you >use, b

Re: How many mainframes are there?

2010-04-12 Thread zMan
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Staller, Allan wrote: > IMO, Windows has never heard of upward compatability. I have the scars > from my home PC to prove it. > Indeed. I've seen keyboard shortcuts changed by service packs -- talk about random! ---

Re: USS regular expression

2010-04-12 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
If your emulator is setup to run with CP037, then you need to do one of the following: a) tell the shell to expect characters in CP037: export LC_ALL=En_US.IBM-037 then restart the shell exec sh -L b) tell the OMVS TSO command processor to translate characters as they are being

Posting ECB's, SRB's, Across Region Boundaries - Pre CMS

2010-04-12 Thread George Henke
Would someone in the know please recall how this was done prior to Cross Memory Service (CMS)? It seems to be an issue once again now that ziip/zaap is here and everyone wants to know how to convert TCB workloads to SRB workloads so they can save $$$ and maximize throughput. In the old days befor

Re: ICHRDSNT

2010-04-12 Thread Tidy, David (D)
Walt - thanks for the confirmation - that indicates our DR construct should work OK. I think we might still test first though! Best regards, David Tidy Dow Benelux B.V. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua

Re: USS regular expression

2010-04-12 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Matan Cohen > Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 9:01 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: USS regular expression > > you are right i already start solving this problem from this > d

Re: OS/400 and z/OS

2010-04-12 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010h.html#12 OS/400 and z/OS for slightly more topic drift ... recently long-winded thread in comp.arch about 3033 dual-address space for MVS ... was done by person heavily involved with Endicott for 801/romp being used for 4341-followon ... and then left to work o

Re: ASG

2010-04-12 Thread William Janulin
No, ASG is the sole vendor for Zeke, Zack, and Oasis. They acquired the products as a result of the monopoly lawsuit. Bill Janulin -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of August Carideo Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 3:59 PM To: IB

Re: USS regular expression

2010-04-12 Thread Steve Comstock
Matan Cohen wrote: you are right i already start solving this problem from this direction . I'm working with code page "037 united state" on the emulation. On OMVS I cant see LC_ALL variable only LANG=C. I tried change the LC_ALL to En_US or even En_US.IBM-1047 but it don't help. changing the emu

Re: ICHRDSNT

2010-04-12 Thread Walt Farrell
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 08:54:27 -0500, Walt Farrell wrote: >On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 08:45:44 -0500, Dennis Trojak > wrote: > >> We've been using the MLPA at DR IPL for many years for the same reason >>and it definitely works. No SYSRACF DD statement and no operator prompt. >>Doco for the BLDL states it

Re: ICHRDSNT

2010-04-12 Thread Tidy, David (D)
Interesting. We have not actually tested this approach yet. But we did observe in this old old entry: http://groups.google.com/group/bit.listserv.ibm-main/browse_thread/threa d/6cff92f94d00eb1a/4390eb7b39b0681c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=MLPA+ICHRDSNT that this kind of approach may be OK. ... We're looking

Re: Putting system integrity at risk to save software charges (was "What is ziip and zaap" Training/doc)

2010-04-12 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
>An SRB receives control in supervisor state. And while it can L(E)PSW >itself to problem state, it will not be able to get back to supervisor. The manual says: "9.5.1 Implications of Running in SRB Mode The SRB routine runs in the operating mode known as SRB mode. Code in SRB mo

Re: How to define couple links using HCD

2010-04-12 Thread Field, Alan C.
Have you read the two manuals Server Time Protocol Planning Guide and Server Time Protocol Implementation Guide? Are you running a Parallel Sysplex and need the CF lpars? You may have wasted money as you can define TIMER ONLY links. I haven't looked at the books for some time however they shoul

Re: Non-SMS-managed LOGR offload data sets

2010-04-12 Thread Nick Jones
>Maybe you misunderstood what I was saying: I am talking genuine parallel >sysplex, that for no technical but purely pricing reasons (IBM pricing) has been >artificially separated into two subplexes. These two subplexes share of course >ISGLOCK and everything that is truly, non-reconfigurably syspl

Re: google groups

2010-04-12 Thread Grimmette, John
Hallo, well I also have a problem with my posts. I forget the exact mailserver message as I put the replies I receive in the bit-bucket myself. Our Mailserver or better said our SPAM checking system objects to ANY listserver reply in my name, simply because it says this mail says it came from our

Re: USS regular expression

2010-04-12 Thread Matan Cohen
you are right i already start solving this problem from this direction . I'm working with code page "037 united state" on the emulation. On OMVS I cant see LC_ALL variable only LANG=C. I tried change the LC_ALL to En_US or even En_US.IBM-1047 but it don't help. changing the emulation code page to 1

Re: OS/400 and z/OS

2010-04-12 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
john.mck...@healthmarkets.com (McKown, John) writes: > Is the S/370? Well, yes and no. Just as the S/370 is now called the > "z", the AS/400 is now called the "i". And yes, it is still sold and > supported by IBM. It is no longer a "mini" type box either! It has > some very powerful processors (phy

Re: ICHRDSNT

2010-04-12 Thread Walt Farrell
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 08:45:44 -0500, Dennis Trojak wrote: > We've been using the MLPA at DR IPL for many years for the same reason >and it definitely works. No SYSRACF DD statement and no operator prompt. >Doco for the BLDL states it will search LPA before the LNKLST. First, are you sure you aren

Re: How many mainframes are there?

2010-04-12 Thread Chris Hoelscher
>> do you want to know how many are still under IBM service, or are running naked? i have not run naked since 1974 - wow - was i on a streak back then . Chris Hoelscher IDMS/DB2 Database Architect Humana Inc 502-476-2538 choelsc...@humana.com you only need to test the programs that you want

Re: How many mainframes are there?

2010-04-12 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lindy Mayfield Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 9:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: How many mainframes are there? Just curious how many mainframes are in the world. And also how many mai

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