Re: Mainframe books

2010-07-24 Thread Michel Castelein
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 16:03:40 -0500, gsg gsg_...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm looking for a book that breaks down the interanls of MVS. I was talking to one of our SYSPROGS and he said there use to be a book that really broke everything down into real simple terms that was easy to understand. He couln't

Re: socket select problem

2010-07-24 Thread osman cinar eren
hi, i want to send my question below again. Can someone that has experience on socket programming help me? By the way there is a connect call before the select call in the scenario i told below. Thanks in advance. On Thu Jul 22nd, 2010 8:09 PM EEST osman cinar eren wrote: Hi, In a COBOL

Re: C-I-C-S vs KICKS

2010-07-24 Thread J R
Wait - light switches upside down? My dad was from England, and when he moved to Canada he installed all our light switches so that down was ON, much to the confusion of everyone else. Hopefully he brought his Robertson screws over with him to install the switches. :-) No need!

SMS and z/OS 1.11

2010-07-24 Thread Gibney, Dave
So, I'm in doing my final conversion from z/OS 1.9 to z/OS 1.11. Testing in the sandbox(es) worked fine for a good nine months, and in my Development LPAR for a good six weeks. Everything looked good except I get this error sometimes!: IEF344I GIBNEYX S5D BACKUP - ALLOCATION FAILED DUE TO DATA

Re: SMS and z/OS 1.11

2010-07-24 Thread Bob Rutledge
Gibney, Dave wrote: So, I'm in doing my final conversion from z/OS 1.9 to z/OS 1.11. Testing in the sandbox(es) worked fine for a good nine months, and in my Development LPAR for a good six weeks. Everything looked good except I get this error sometimes!: IEF344I GIBNEYX S5D BACKUP -

Re: LE calling assembler with 64 bit register usage

2010-07-24 Thread Peter Relson
As an assembler routine (especially one that is not utilizing LE services), you have the responsibility to maintain standard register saving conventions (unless your caller expects otherwise): making sure that the return to the caller is with - low halves of GPRs 2-13 unchanged - high halves of

Re: Mainframe books

2010-07-24 Thread Clark Morris
On 23 Jul 2010 23:59:21 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 16:03:40 -0500, gsg gsg_...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm looking for a book that breaks down the interanls of MVS. I was talking to one of our SYSPROGS and he said there use to be a book that really broke everything

Re: ICSF, Crypto Cards and DB2

2010-07-24 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2010-07-23 17:46, Mark Jacobs pisze: On 07/23/10 11:18, Lizette Koehler wrote: I have been asked to research the use of ICSF in DB2. I know that ICSF comes with z/OS. However, I am not sure if it really requires a Crypto card to run. Q1: Can you run ICSF without a Crypto Card? Second,

Re: C-I-C-S vs KICKS

2010-07-24 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
ponce...@bcs.org.uk (CM Poncelet) writes: That is what an ex-IBMer from the old days told me 'CICS' originally stood for - before it was renamed as 'Customer Information Control System' and sold to the rest of the world. I have no supporting evidence apart from this hearsay. I was

Re: CICS - KICKS (Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al.)

2010-07-24 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2010-07-24 07:15, Ted MacNEIL pisze: Last kicks conference I went to, the Brits all said zed-oh-ess. Canadians do for the most part, too. In Poland we say KICKS and zed-oh-ess. I think in Europe people use KICKS. BTW: KICKS in polish is jargon name for futball shot that horribly

Re: LE calling assembler with 64 bit register usage

2010-07-24 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Peter Relson Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 9:13 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: LE calling assembler with 64 bit register usage As an assembler routine (especially one that is

Re: Mainframe books

2010-07-24 Thread Ted MacNEIL
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg246366.pdf Introduction to the New Mainframe: z/OS Basics Published: August 9, 2009 Last Update: August 24, 2009 Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca

Re: C-I-C-S vs KICKS

2010-07-24 Thread Rick Fochtman
snip--- Hopefully he brought his Robertson screws over with him to install the switches. :-) --unsnip--- Most hardware and home center stores

Re: CICS OPENAPI

2010-07-24 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 07/22/2010 05:42 AM, Jan MOEYERSONS wrote: On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:15:00 -0600, Frank Swarbrick frank.swarbr...@efirstbank.com wrote: Naive question, perhaps... Is OPENAPI and THREADSAFE required for a CICS region to use more than one CPU? I think CICS is using all CPUs it can get

Re: CICS - KICKS (Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al.)

2010-07-24 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 07/23/2010 10:07 PM, Bob Woodside wrote: On Friday 23 July 2010 11:52, zMan wrote: It's always appeared to me to be: Americans: see-eye-see-ess Others: kicks I think you might occasionally hear cheeks in Italy. :-) Among Americans, I think it depends on how much contact the staff of

Re: C-I-C-S vs KICKS

2010-07-24 Thread Dave Salt
Most hardware and home center stores don't even know what a Robertson-drive screw IS. And of the few that know, you'll only find wood screws. No machine screws. :-( Flat head screws are garbage, and Phillips ('X' head) screws are only a small step up from garbage. If I buy a product that

Re: U11-011 for periodic jobs after sadump - Head Up

2010-07-24 Thread Barbara Nitz
My client hasn't seen that problem yet, but since you can only have it on 2 systems maybe we've been lucky. Yes, you have to have an outage (and I suspect an outage that leaves the system completely dead in the water) that does 'forceful' sysplex cleanup on the system that runs MUF_available.

Re: Mainframe books

2010-07-24 Thread Jim Marshall
I'm looking for a book that breaks down the interanls of MVS. I was talking to one of our SYSPROGS and he said there use to be a book that really broke everything down into real simple terms that was easy to understand. He couln't remember what the name was though. I'm sure it wasn't on MVS,

Re: C-I-C-S vs KICKS

2010-07-24 Thread Mike Kerford-Byrnes
In the early days of Customer Information Control System, at a European Guide meeting held in London, I distinctly remember an Italian referring to CICS as cheeks. This was amusing in itself, but was made more so since he prefixed this with I am having trouble with my ... I freely acknowledge

Re: CICS - KICKS (Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al.)

2010-07-24 Thread Bob Woodside
On Saturday 24 July 2010 09:40, R.S. wrote: BTW: KICKS in polish is jargon name for futball shot that horribly misses the target (or squint). Well, I have heard a couple of criticisms of CICS that weren't too far removed. Not from me, mind you. BTW2: We have no problem to pronounce

Re: C-I-C-S vs KICKS

2010-07-24 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Two threads about how to pronounce CICS! And then, it vears off to hardware. (Not the computer kind). Are we at a new low? Eric Bielefeld - Original Message - Flat head screws are garbage, and Phillips ('X' head) screws are only a small step up from garbage. If I buy a product

Re: C-I-C-S vs KICKS

2010-07-24 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Dave Salt wrote: Most hardware and home center stores don't even know what a Robertson-drive screw IS. And of the few that know, you'll only find wood screws. No machine screws. :-( Flat head screws are garbage, and Phillips ('X' head) screws are only a small step up from garbage. If I buy

Re: SMS and z/OS 1.11

2010-07-24 Thread Gibney, Dave
Yes it does, I hope the guy whose weekend I might be spoiling with a critical level ETR isn't to upset :( I haven't filed one this high since we swapped boxes and I couldn't get the new crypto card(s) to work. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: C-I-C-S vs KICKS

2010-07-24 Thread Gibney, Dave
My CICS guy just retired. He used KICKS or C-I-C-S depending on the audicence. I've always used C-i-c-s, because that's what I heard first. Now that I have to become the CICS guy also, maybe I'll have to start using KICKS :( At least I'll sound like an expert. :)

Re: C-I-C-S vs KICKS

2010-07-24 Thread john gilmore
Mike Kerford-Byrnes writes: begin snippet I distinctly remember an Italian referring to CICS as cheeks. This was amusing in itself, but was made more so since he prefixed this with I am having trouble with my ... end snippet What is funny is a function of what one knows, and both type

Re: SMS and z/OS 1.11

2010-07-24 Thread Gibney, Dave
Actually, according to level 2, it's probably OA30853 which is RSU1006 but not Hiper or PSP or marked IBM*. I stopped at RSU1005 to make this conversion as that's the level I had the shake out running in the other LPARs. It has to do with striped datasets, and I by default have SMS extend and

Re: C-I-C-S vs KICKS

2010-07-24 Thread Don Williams
The light switch may be upside down, or it may be somewhere else. I was stationed in Germany as a young man. On my first day, I was invited to dinner as a new member of the data center. We went to one of the locals home. It was not long before I ask where the bathroom was. I entered the bathroom,

Re: CICS OPENAPI

2010-07-24 Thread Frank Swarbrick
Thanks. I've been told that CICS on z/OS (we just migrated from VSE) inherantly utilizes multiple CPs (we have a 3-way), but other than the little DB2 access we have this appears to not be true without utilization of threadsafe and/or OPENAPI. I just wanted to confirm my assumptions. From

Re: C-I-C-S vs KICKS

2010-07-24 Thread Don Williams
Robertson screw - sort of a square hole in a round peg :-) It is too bad that there were legal battles over the Robertson screw. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 11:38 AM

Re: C-I-C-S vs KICKS

2010-07-24 Thread Ted MacNEIL
It is too bad that there were legal battles over the Robertson screw. That wasn't mentioned in the Toronto Star article, a couple of weeks ago. But, it did mention that 2010 was/is the 100th anniversery of the creation of the Robertson (hence the article). - I'm a SuperHero with neither

Re: C-I-C-S vs KICKS

2010-07-24 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 7/24/2010 1:17 PM, Dave Salt wrote: Flat head screws are garbage, and Phillips ('X' head) screws are only a small step up from garbage. If I buy a product that comes with flat head or Phillips screws I usually throw them away. I was astonished when I learned Phillips screws are widely used in

Re: C-I-C-S vs KICKS

2010-07-24 Thread J R
I don't understand that. The Robertson screws shown on Wiki are all flat head types (e.g., intended for flush mounting in countersunk holes). I don't think Dave said what he meant. I think he meant (straight) slot headed screws which require a flat blade driver. Date: Sat, 24 Jul

Re: C-I-C-S vs KICKS

2010-07-24 Thread Dave Salt
I don't understand that. The Robertson screws shown on Wiki are all flat head types (e.g., intended for flush mounting in countersunk holes). Not at all. Robertson screws come in all of the same lengths, shapes and sizes as Phillips screws. The only difference is the type of screwdriver

absoftwareconsultants' Drones

2010-07-24 Thread Mohammad Khan
absoftwareconsultants ? That won't be Anton Britz by any chance ? I had no idea that you were sending drones at me. Gosh I must have really pissed you off. BTW don't worry I'm fine and dandy. Moreover if you tell your family to inform me I won't mind attending your funeral and dancing on your

Re: C-I-C-S vs KICKS

2010-07-24 Thread Don Williams
Depending on the need, screws have many head shapes, in addition, to the driver slot. If you need a flat surface, then counter sunk holes with flat head screws may be the best choice. If you don't need a flat surface, then why waste time drilling counter sunk holes. -Original Message-

Re: C-I-C-S vs KICKS

2010-07-24 Thread CM Poncelet
For what it's worth, the chap who told me that CICS' original name was Cincinnati Information Control System also said that DFH stood for Denver Foot Hills; but no one has ever confirmed this. I once asked Pete Sadler whether he could explain where DFH came from (because of IMS's similar DFS

Re: 7trk tape drive

2010-07-24 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 12:25 PM -0400 on 7/23/10, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] wrote about 7trk tape drive: I've been asked to locate a 7 track tape drive in the DC area. Do the current generation Operating Systems even support them anymore? Or are you wanting to use them in a legacy (D)OS/360 or 370

Re: C-I-C-S vs KICKS

2010-07-24 Thread Ted MacNEIL
For what it's worth, the chap who told me that CICS' original name was Cincinnati Information Control System also said that DFH stood for Denver Foot Hills; but no one has ever confirmed this. Actually, I heard the latter, myself, in 1981. No actual documentation, but an IBM rep told me the

Re: C-I-C-S vs KICKS

2010-07-24 Thread Dave Salt
Depending on the need, screws have many head shapes, in addition, to the driver slot. If you need a flat surface, then counter sunk holes with flat head screws may be the best choice. If you don't need a flat surface, then why waste time drilling counter sunk holes. This has nothing to do

Re: C-I-C-S vs KICKS

2010-07-24 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
ponce...@bcs.org.uk (CM Poncelet) writes: For what it's worth, the chap who told me that CICS' original name was Cincinnati Information Control System also said that DFH stood for Denver Foot Hills; but no one has ever confirmed this. I once asked Pete Sadler whether he could explain where DFH

Re: C-I-C-S vs KICKS

2010-07-24 Thread Edward Jaffe
Dave Salt wrote: This has nothing to do with counter sunk holes. Or mainframe computers ... -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/

Re: C-I-C-S vs KICKS

2010-07-24 Thread Dave Salt
LOL, true! Dave Salt SimpList(tm) - try it; you'll get it! http://www.mackinney.com/products/program-development/simplist.html Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:23:54 -0700 From: edja...@phoenixsoftware.com Subject: Re: C-I-C-S vs KICKS To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Dave Salt wrote: This