Re: Test DASD performance tools

But it is worth every dollar, peso, euro, renminbi, pound, dina, yen, rupee, whateva that you spend on it if this is something you do every year or so. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of > Bill Fairchild > Sent: Wednesday,

SQL`s Executed for CICS Transaction.

Hi, Do we have any Tool/Method to identify the SQL`s Executed for a CICS Transaction. Thanks & Regards, M Pavan. The information in this e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee or addressees. Any use or d

Re: 3270 Emulator Software

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O/T Stupid Data Center "tricks"

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Re: special CoD activation

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Re: Looking for the Z/os 1.9 HSM TTOC record layout

Thanks. Exactly what I was looking for. Must not have been one for version 9. Thanks again, Jim -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Starr, Alan Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 11:08 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: L

Re: ssh-keygen Command

FWIW, if you use the new version of IBM Ported Tools (1.2) (with or without our free Co:Z Toolkit), you can create your private key in a SAF (RACF/ACF2/TSS) Keyring, and then export the public key for distribution to remote SSHD servers. This is a much better practice (IMO), than storing private

Re: 3270 Emulator Software

Ed Finnell wrote: In a message dated 8/25/2010 2:14:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time, howard.bra...@cusys.edu writes: With my computer monitor, I find 3270-model 5 to be enough, but sure enough it does offer 3290. I don't think I'll try it. For many moons ISPF has had VSPLIT, but unless

Re: 3270 Emulator Software

I use x3270 on Linux, and wc3270 (a Windows port of c3270) on Windoze. See: http://x3270.bgp.nu/ I'm sure that *some* of the commercial emulators are better, but I believe that *most* are not. Disclaimer: I have never used Vista. x3270/c3270 is solid, lightweight, and more

Re: simple JCL question

On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:21:46 -0500, Mike Schwab wrote: >> >Or, consider the procname in >//stepname EXEC procname,keywords=values >to be the positional parameter, with an option is to replace >'procname' with 'PROC=procname' or 'PGM=pgmname'. > Humpty Dumpty. If so, it was irresponsible to choose

Re: 3270 Emulator Software

In a message dated 8/25/2010 2:14:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time, howard.bra...@cusys.edu writes: With my computer monitor, I find 3270-model 5 to be enough, but sure enough it does offer 3290. I don't think I'll try it. >> For many moons ISPF has had VSPLIT, but unless your emulator su

Re: 3270 Emulator Software

In a message dated 8/25/2010 2:14:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time, howard.bra...@cusys.edu writes: With my computer monitor, I find 3270-model 5 to be enough, but sure enough it does offer 3290. I don't think I'll try it. --

Re: z/VM LISTSERV Query

Wo Fascinating history once again. Anne & Lynn. tyvm I was telling my client just Monday something you mentioned a while back, how SCRIPT was the predecessor of HTML. Now I find a similar history regarding Listserv. Those were the golden days of IBM. But maybe the Z196 portends a renaissa

Re: ShopzSeries My Licensed Software

With 2 cases, probably a firewall issue somewhere within the IBM network. Open an ETR. On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Brian Peterson wrote: > I'm getting the exact same error message. > > Brian > > On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:54:16 -0400, Ken Porowski wrote: > >>Trying to pull down a report on my l

Re: ShopzSeries My Licensed Software

I'm getting the exact same error message. Brian On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:54:16 -0400, Ken Porowski wrote: >Trying to pull down a report on my licensed software, not sure if the >issue is with me or IBM. > >Anybody else get this pulling a 'My Licensed Software' report from >ShopzSeries? > >Proxy Er

Re: z/VM LISTSERV Query

gahe...@gmail.com (George Henke) writes: > Does anyone know a good LISTSERV for z/VM? do you want one that runs on z/VM or one about z/VM? the original was implementated on VM in the mid-80s as part of EARN (european flavor of bitnet) ... aka the "bit.listerv" part of usenet are the original bitn

Re: 3270 Emulator Software

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: > > Or two 80-column splits and one 160 column split for viewing listings. On one of the Hercules yahoo groups a few years ago, someone wrote an RJE editor that would do an 80 column edit screen and a 133 column prinout screen in th

Re: simple JCL question

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: > In <008301cb4453$4242cec0$c6c86c...@org>, on 08/25/2010 >   at 05:44 AM, Charles Mills said: > >>PGM= is positional, is it not? > > Yes. I could make a case that it shouldn't be, and it's as confusing > as the default for SPACE.

Re: ShopzSeries My Licensed Software

My experience is with PC / Servers over TCP/IP. However, messages like this are usually one of the IPs between you and the destination are using a port number that is blocked on one or more IP numbers, usually a firewall IP number. If the port number is correct, do a trace route between the mainf

Re: 3270 Emulator Software

On 25 Aug 2010 12:01:34 -0700, shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) wrote: >>An how come no emulator supports 3290 style partitions? > >I thought some did. > >>Or does one? > >Blue zone. With my computer monitor, I find 3270-model 5 to be enough, but sure enough it does offer 3

Re: simple JCL question

In <008301cb4453$4242cec0$c6c86c...@org>, on 08/25/2010 at 05:44 AM, Charles Mills said: >PGM= is positional, is it not? Yes. I could make a case that it shouldn't be, and it's as confusing as the default for SPACE. Or take the change in the processing of DD overrides - please! -- Sh

Re: Job Submission exit

In , on 08/24/2010 at 03:31 PM, "Williamson, James R" said: >I believe the TSO submit exit is IKJEFF10, >it's not a JES exit. And therefore won't catch TSO applications that write directly to the internal reader instead of going through SUBMIT. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg an

Re: 3270 Emulator Software

In , on 08/25/2010 at 08:27 AM, "McKown, John" said: >An how come no emulator supports 3290 style partitions? I thought some did. >Or does one? Blue zone. >I'd love to 4-way split my ISPF screen! And have two side-by-side >edits going for comparison. Or two 80-column splits and one 160 co

ShopzSeries My Licensed Software

Trying to pull down a report on my licensed software, not sure if the issue is with me or IBM. Anybody else get this pulling a 'My Licensed Software' report from ShopzSeries? Proxy Error The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server. The proxy server could not handle the r

Re: Connectivity test

Did you set up an "Out Of Office" (OOO) message? I remember a while back about a rule being set up for the List that when it got one your account would be set to NoMail. On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 12:44:54 -0400, Richards, Robert B. wrote: >The test actually *DID* fail. :-) > >It turns out I had been

Re: Looking for the Z/os 1.9 HSM TTOC record layout

I don't know if this will help you: starting with z/OS r10, there is an unnumbered book called DFSMShsm Data Areas at http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/r10pdf/#dfsms (order number is NA). It contains the TTOC layout. Alan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion L

Re: Which TCB data element point to VSM

Thankx the data is just like VSMDATA From the components selection One more question if the subpool is shared would the first TCB be the one That's listed. If so then I am still in trouble because I think the attached task which did the STORAGE OBTAIN is where the problem is Sent from my i

Looking for the Z/os 1.9 HSM TTOC record layout

I always remembered these layouts being documented in the HSM Diagnosis Guide. I've got an old guide from version 1.5, but can't seem to find the layout in the 1.9 book. Did IBM move them or stop publishing them? Thanks, Jim --

Re: Please explore CBT Tape File 830 - Xephon MVS articles

Hi, I have a private PDS with most of the index pages. If you'd like I could send this to you. ISPF SRCHFOR & FIND work for me! Sam, would you like this PDS too for the CBT tape? - It's time I contributed I've taken so much stuff Thank you Sam CBT has saved so much time! Best Wishes John Grimm

Re: z/VM LISTSERV Query

OOPS - that first one is for Utilities on z/VM. z/VM itself mailto:lists...@listserv.uark.edu subscribe ibmvm -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-691-6183 cell john.

Re: ssh-keygen Command

Michael's example is the first thing I thought of too. For some reason, the tilde wasn't being replaced with the "home" directory and I ended up with a .ssh subdirectory of root. It worked fine when I replaced ~ with $HOME Alan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [

Re: ssh-keygen Command

See if this will work. //SFTP2EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH, // PARM='sh ssh-keygen -t dsa -b 1024 -N "" -f ~/.ssh/id_dsa' //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //STDOUT DD SYSOUT=* //STDERR DD SYSOUT=* /* Michael Saraco Systems

Re: z/VM LISTSERV Query

Yes, I do. ... Oh, you want to know what it is? http://vm.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?VM-UTIL If you're also interested in Linux on zSeries: http://vm.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-VM Subscribe via the form which is on the bottom of the pages sited above. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV I

Re: Connectivity test

The test actually *DID* fail. :-) It turns out I had been set to NOMAIL. No idea how that happened. Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Thompson, Steve Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 10:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Su

Re: z/VM LISTSERV Query

The ibmvm listserv operated by the University of Arkansas. http://www.vm.ibm.com/techinfo/listserv.html#Section_0.1 On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 11:37 AM, George Henke wrote: > Does anyone know a good LISTSERV for z/VM? > > -- > George Henke > (C) 845 401 5614 > > ---

Re: z/VM LISTSERV Query

George, You want to subscribe to IBMVM. It is hosted at listserv.uark.edu. John P. Baker -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of George Henke Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:37 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: z/VM LISTSE

z/VM LISTSERV Query

Does anyone know a good LISTSERV for z/VM? -- George Henke (C) 845 401 5614 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the arc

Re: 3270 Emulator Software

For the most part, we use Zephyr's Corporation's Passport PC to Host. It's nimble enough to swap in-and-out using Windows hotkeys, but it is still pretty full-featured. One thing I'd like to see in it is support of non-standard screen sizes. ---

Re: ssh-keygen Command

Were you using the same UID on both jobs? It ran OK for me. Jon L. Veilleux veilleu...@aetna.com (860) 636-9179 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Starr, Alan Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.

Re: VIO

In a message dated 8/25/2010 8:13:31 A.M. Central Daylight Time, rpin...@netscape.com writes: I think you hit the nail on the head, thanks! >> Controlled by VATLSTnn, can use Mount command to add on the fly? -- For IBM-

Re: SMP/E RECEIVE ORDER: JAVA 5.0 PTFs not found by server??

Actually, though some of you might find this surprising, this is far from a new practice, though it is not done very often. Development and Level 3 have been able to stop additional shipments of a PTF even after COR-close for a long time, and the Java team is certainly not the only team ever t

Re: Test DASD performance tools

Save yourself some time. The PA/IODRIVER is not free. Bill Fairchild Rocket Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Staller, Allan Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 10:31 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Test DASD

Re: z/VM LISTSERV Query

thx to all for a fast response. Let me guess. WalMart likes VM. On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:44 PM, McKown, John < john.mck...@healthmarkets.com> wrote: > OOPS - that first one is for Utilities on z/VM. z/VM itself > > mailto:lists...@listserv.uark.edu > > subscribe ibmvm > > -- > John McKown

Re: ssh-keygen Command

I run sshkeygen in a shell script. I copy the commands into a file in /tmp/ and then execute it from there. I don't know if there is an easier way. Here is some sample JCL. //COPY EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01,REGION=4M //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=(,)

ssh-keygen Command

Is there anyway to execute the following command in a Batch job on the mainframe ? ssh-keygen -t dsa -b 1024 -N "" -f ~/.ssh/id_dsa Thank You. Len Sasso RDC Operations - Systems Administrator CSC Information Technology Infrastructure Services (ITIS) | p: 518.257-4209 | m: 518.894-0

Re: Test DASD performance tools

Tommy, There is nothing free on z/OS that I am aware of, apart from writing your own test programs. There are some free software tools that run in Open Systems that you may run on a LINUX LPAR with dedicated FICON volumes and get some results. Keep z/VM out of the picture, as it is still playing

Re: Test DASD performance tools

PA/IODRIVER http://www.perfassoc.com/ Our shop needs to compare the EMC & IBM DASD performance. Is there any free tools to test the DASD performance? such as online CICS/Batch performance? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signof

Re: Test DASD performance tools

Hal, I don't this is a hard and fast rule to go by, especially as response time can vary for many reasons that have nothing to do with the storage. Personally I feel that throughput is equally as important. Response time can increase 200-300% as throughput increases and it will have no discernable

Re: simple JCL question

Charles Mills wrote: | PGM= is positional, is it not? and this of course is a debater's point, but it is one I should have been tempted to make too in response to a too sweeping "WTF?". The first parameter following EXEC may be any one of o PGM=, o PROC=, or just o . This last defaul

Re: Which TCB data element point to VSM

If you use the VSMDATA verb exit from IPCS, it provides performs this function, totalling storage by TCB, Subpool and Residency. === Wayne Driscoll OMEGAMON DB2 L3 Support/Development wdrisco(AT)us.ibm.com ===

Re: Job Submission exit

John and Mark: Thank you for your comments. On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Mark Zelden wrote: > No, the exit will not get called again after conversion of the JCL.But > you > can protect the ability to change the class via operator commands or > products like SDSF with external security (R

Re: Test DASD performance tools

The bottom line in DASD performance is response time. RMF reports that. How well a given vendor performs in a given situation would be difficult to simulate and therefore the results may not be very meaningful. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@

Re: Connectivity test

-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 9:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Connectivity test Richards, Robert B. wrote: >Sending this to see if it gets through and I s

Re: simple JCL question

On 24 Aug 2010 13:25:12 -0700, st...@trainersfriend.com (Steve Comstock) wrote: >Exactly. In my JCL class, I proclaim, "parameters are either >keyword or positional", then I explain what those two terms >mean; then when we get to the EXEC statement I recall that >earlier assertion and then say, "I

Re: Connectivity test

Richards, Robert B. wrote: >Sending this to see if it gets through and I see it. Your test failed and I could not see your test. ;-D Please turn your mouse and monitor 90 degrees clockwise and retry sending this. ;-D Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht

Test DASD performance tools

Hi all, Our shop needs to compare the EMC & IBM DASD performance. Is there any free tools to test the DASD performance? such as online CICS/Batch performance? Many thanks -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instr

Re: Which TCB data element point to VSM

Thankx. BTW. There isn't a quick way of seeing how much storage or even how storage is allocated to a TCB in a subpool I would have to add all the DQESIZE(s) together Sent from my iPhone On Aug 25, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Steve Austin wrote: TCBMSS, TCBUKYSP, TCBAE and TCBEAE -Original Me

Re: Higher Paging under z/OS V1.11 OA33307

On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 09:17 -0400, Lizette Koehler wrote: > So it sounds like this may be an issue greater than I expected. The APAR > talks about MASTER spikes, but on various newsgroups (CICS and DB2) it looks > like it maybe more pervasive. I've been looking at this off-and-on as well. You m

Re: Higher Paging under z/OS V1.11 OA33307

> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler > > We are seeing small spurts in paging. We will be going along fine for hours > and then suddenly see a 1-2 min spike in paging for DB2. And when I say > spike, it goes from 0 page-in up to 35% page

Re: Job Submission exit

No, the exit will not get called again after conversion of the JCL.But you can protect the ability to change the class via operator commands or products like SDSF with external security (RACF/ACF2/Top Secret). For example, in the OPERCMDS class you would protect JES2.MODIFY.BAT See the JES

Re: 3270 Emulator Software

> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of McKown, John > > [ snip ] > > An how come no emulator supports 3290 style partitions? Or does one? I'd love to 4-way split my ISPF > screen! And have two side-by-side edits going for comparison. Bluezone "claims" to,

Re: 3270 Emulator Software

> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 8:24 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: 3270 Emulator Software > > In , on 08/24/2010 >at 06:58 PM, Ed Finnell

Re: 3270 Emulator Software

In , on 08/24/2010 at 06:58 PM, Ed Finnell said: >A real 3279 Mod 3 (If I had one) - Not really an emulator is it ? >But the best experience ever ! ObForeverAmber Bah! 3290. While ISPF only supported 4 explicit partitions, that was still enough to make it head and shoulders above anything e

RES: BLSR

Ron and Oswaldo, Thanks Atenciosamente / Regards / Saludos Ituriel do Nascimento Neto BANCO BRADESCO S.A. 4254 / DPCD Engenharia de Software Sistemas Operacionais Mainframes Tel: +55 11 4197-2021 R: 22021 Fax: +55 11 4197-2814 AVISO LEGAL Esta mensagem é destinada exclusivamente pa

Higher Paging under z/OS V1.11 OA33307

We are seeing small spurts in paging. We will be going along fine for hours and then suddenly see a 1-2 min spike in paging for DB2. And when I say spike, it goes from 0 page-in up to 35% pagein rate under RMF. My workset size is stable as are my page datasets. But using STORF in RMF and going

Re: VIO

I think you hit the nail on the head, thanks! Richard, Vickie, and Randy Pinion --- john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: From: "McKown, John" To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: VIO Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 08:09:58 -0500 > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion Li

Re: Which TCB data element point to VSM

TCBMSS, TCBUKYSP, TCBAE and TCBEAE -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Micheal Butz Sent: 25 August 2010 13:56 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Which TCB data element point to VSM That's for the whole Address space I am l

Re: VIO

> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Richard Pinion > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 6:47 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: VIO > > I am running z/OS 1.10 and have a small problem. For some reason all > temporary

Re: VIO

Richard, >I am running z/OS 1.10 and have a small problem. For some reason all >temporary data set allocations are going to VIO. I do not have any SMS >definitions that route temporary allocations to VIO. Any ideas? Two shots in the dark. 1. Do you have any volumes mounted as public or storage

Re: Which TCB data element point to VSM

That's for the whole Address space I am looking for the Virtual Storage Associated with a TCB Sent from my iPhone On Aug 25, 2010, at 8:27 AM, Bertus Bekker - Business Connexion > wrote: You might want to look at the LDA which as far as I can remember hangs off the ASCB or ASXB, Michael

Re: simple JCL question

PGM= is positional, is it not? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 8:38 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: simple JCL question In , on 08/19/2010 at 06:3

RES: BLSR

There was a tool called BLSRAID which was SAS-based I worked on in the mid-1990s. The IBM rep worked with this tool, but now I don´t know where to find it. Oswaldo Ferreira de Matos Coordenador Suporte Técnico Mainframe fone: (0xx11) 3177-0179 IBM Certified Specialist - System z Technical Support

Re: Job Submission exit

> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Roberto Halais > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 7:29 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: Job Submission exit > > Using Mark's idea. > > I have a question. > > Once the job

Re: Job Submission exit

Using Mark's idea. I have a question. Once the job gets authorized by the exit to proceed what would happen if the operator decides to change the job class. Will the exit reenter again or is there another exit we have to code? Thank you for you replies. On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Mark Z

Which TCB data element point to VSM

Hi I am looking at a Dump. I know Virtual Storage is associated with a TCB would anyone know what TCB/STCB. data element Points to the VSM Sent from my iPhone -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,

VIO

I am running z/OS 1.10 and have a small problem. For some reason all temporary data set allocations are going to VIO. I do not have any SMS definitions that route temporary allocations to VIO. Any ideas? -- For IBM-MAIN subsc

Connectivity test

Sending this to see if it gets through and I see it. Just noticed I haven't seen a lot of posts lately...but have been busy anyway! :) Bob -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...

special CoD activation

Hi, My client has a Z9 Z02 (2 CP, 130 MSU). They can activate CoD in Aug, but not on Sep-1 (end of marketing/support/...); but they 'may' need to do it. CoD will change it to Z03 (3 CP, 189 MSU). So the idea is to: CAP the machine to 130 MSU, activate CoD; then IFF need more juice on Sep-1