Re: Backups (was Virginia DOT outage)

2010-09-07 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Richard L Peurifoy r-peuri...@neo.tamu.edu wrote in message news:4c85308b.1010...@neo.tamu.edu... On 9/3/2010 7:41 PM, Clark Morris wrote: On 3 Sep 2010 15:52:25 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: On 9/3/2010 5:36 PM, Gerhard Adam wrote: The way I read the articles, there was

Need a simple counter

2010-09-07 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi Sometimes I would need a simple SYSTEM/SYSTEMS/SYSPLEX wide counter, for every call gives back the next number. (Seen maybe in CICS ?) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email

REXX compiler for CGI REXX execs

2010-09-07 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi If someone has the REXX compiler for REXX cgi execs, and if it brings some performance ? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET

Re: Code names for zSeries

2010-09-07 Thread Peter Nuttall
Only for people of a certain age ... :-) However, it would probably include most on this list ... Ray Pearce ray.pea...@macro4.com Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 06/09/2010 07:20 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu

re-locating the cursor into the primary command line within an ispf edit macro

2010-09-07 Thread Dr. Stephen Fedtke
hi all, if you apply ISREDIT FIND ... ISREDIT CHANGE ... or similar ispf edit macro commands, the cursor is placed in the corresponding text line. when the macro terminates, and the edit panel appears, the cursor always resides in any of these lines. we did not find any way to relocate the

Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available

2010-09-07 Thread Lindy Mayfield
Me too! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 6:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Can't get there. I thought I was registered, long ago. 1. Try to sign in with account name

Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available

2010-09-07 Thread Lindy Mayfield
if you find a solution please post it or send it to me. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 6:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is

Re: re-locating the cursor into the primary command line within an ispf edit macro

2010-09-07 Thread Tidy, David (D)
The manual indicates: Note: To position the cursor on the command line, issue a return code of 1 from the macro. For example, in CLIST code EXIT CODE(1) as the last statement in your EDIT MACRO to position the cursor on the command line. Best regards, David Tidy

Re: Practical uses for submitting JCL with other than RECFM=F(B),LRECL=80

2010-09-07 Thread Jan MOEYERSONS
On Mon, 6 Sep 2010 11:28:57 -0500, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: On Mon, 6 Sep 2010 10:31:19 -0500, Jan MOEYERSONS wrote: Used longer-than-80 a few times for entering shell script as in-stream data. Why should Kirk be much concerned with supporting the Unix lunatic fringe? I

Re: Practical uses for submitting JCL with other than RECFM=F(B),LRECL=80

2010-09-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 05:10:22 -0500, Jan MOEYERSONS wrote: On Mon, 6 Sep 2010 11:28:57 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: Used longer-than-80 a few times for entering shell script as in-stream data. Why should Kirk be much concerned with supporting the Unix lunatic fringe? I don't know. I only wanted

Re: Practical uses for submitting JCL with other than RECFM=F(B),LRECL=80

2010-09-07 Thread Ted MacNEIL
And for Ted's remark concerning ISPF SUBMIT vs. TSO, that's a detail of implementation that the user wanting an enhancement shouldn't need to be concerned with. Possibly. But, most used to know it. It was documented as part of the ISPF user's guide, which also told you that ISPF would reformat

z/VSE name/token services

2010-09-07 Thread Steve Austin
I have created a persistent name/token pair on z/VSE using IEANTCR. A subsequent delete using IEANTDL gives a retun code of zero, but if I then retrieve the name/token using IEANTRT the 'deleted' token is returned. Is this a feature of the VSE implementation? Can one delete a persisent

Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available

2010-09-07 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Comstock http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg2b9de5f05a9d57819852571 c500428f9a Requires registration (again) on IBM Resource Link, but registration rejects my registration attempt even though it

Re: Passing commands to SDSF in REXX

2010-09-07 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Lizette, ISRTSO is Option 6's panel. I suppose it's one way to issue the command string. Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 9:39 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re:

Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available

2010-09-07 Thread Richards, Robert B.
John, Just click on the PDF link if you already have an id. I use Firefox and it put up a dialog box with my ID and password filled in and I clicked ok. The manual then came up and I saved it to my disk. Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Need a simple counter

2010-09-07 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Miklos Szigetvari Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 1:57 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Need a simple counter Hi Sometimes I would need a simple

Re: Practical uses for submitting JCL with other than RECFM=F(B),LRECL=80

2010-09-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 10:44:25 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: The issue could become. Request to ISPF team: fix ISPF SUBMIT. ISPF team: that's part of TSO/E -- not our problem. Requestor: Then avoid the use of TSO/E. Yes, there are various places where the F/80 restriction is documented. Obviously, a

Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available

2010-09-07 Thread zMan
Nope, not working. Same experience as John. I even did the forgot my password and set a new one: no joy. On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 8:19 AM, Richards, Robert B. robert.richa...@opm.gov wrote: John, Just click on the PDF link if you already have an id. I use Firefox and it put up a dialog box

Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available

2010-09-07 Thread zMan
I even just tried creating a new ID, which still doesn't work. And used IE instead of Firefox. Something is busted. -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: Need a simple counter

2010-09-07 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi I think to something similar for NON CICS On 9/7/2010 2:27 PM, McKown, John wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Miklos Szigetvari Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 1:57 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject:

Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available

2010-09-07 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Richards, Robert B. John, Just click on the PDF link if you already have an id. I use Firefox and it put up a dialog box with my ID and password filled in and I clicked ok. The manual then came up and I saved it

Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available

2010-09-07 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [On Behalf Of zMan I even just tried creating a new ID, which still doesn't work. And used IE instead of Firefox. Something is busted. Indeed. So much for the single IBM Sign-on ID concept. IBM apparently has reached a point

SVCDUMP Control

2010-09-07 Thread George Henke
Is there anything in WLM or elsewhere to detect and/or stop tasks from taking too many SVCDUMPs in a short time interval thereby threatening storage backing in the Page datasets among other things? -- George Henke (C) 845 401 5614

Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available

2010-09-07 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Comstock On 9/7/2010 6:32 AM, zMan wrote: Nope, not working. Same experience as John. I even did the forgot my password and set a new one: no joy. zMan, Lindy, John C., others... On the mainframe

Re: O/T IBM to Ship World's Fastest Computer Chip

2010-09-07 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 09/05/2010 04:55 PM, Clark Morris wrote: On 5 Sep 2010 14:17:23 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: On 09/05/2010 02:25 PM, Phil Smith III wrote: Rick Fochtman wrote: I'll give you another oxymoron: journalistic integrity Today, it's becoming rarer and rarer and I suspect will die

Re: Need a simple counter

2010-09-07 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Miklos Szigetvari Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 7:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Need a simple counter Hi I think to something similar for NON CICS There

Re: SVCDUMP Control

2010-09-07 Thread Lizette Koehler
Is there anything in WLM or elsewhere to detect and/or stop tasks from taking too many SVCDUMPs in a short time interval thereby threatening storage backing in the Page datasets among other things? Not in WLM. But DAE can and setting Slip Traps to suppress SVC dumps are good options.

Re: SVCDUMP Control

2010-09-07 Thread George Henke
Are you thinking of a generic SLIP trap that is ongoing? On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.comwrote: Is there anything in WLM or elsewhere to detect and/or stop tasks from taking too many SVCDUMPs in a short time interval thereby threatening storage

Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available

2010-09-07 Thread Steve Comstock
On 9/7/2010 6:32 AM, zMan wrote: Nope, not working. Same experience as John. I even did the forgot my password and set a new one: no joy. zMan, Lindy, John C., others... On the mainframe assembler list, Tony Thigpen posted that he has kindly hosted the doc at

Re: SVCDUMP Control

2010-09-07 Thread Jim Mulder
Is there anything in WLM or elsewhere to detect and/or stop tasks from taking too many SVCDUMPs in a short time interval thereby threatening storage backing in the Page datasets among other things? Not in WLM. But DAE can and setting Slip Traps to suppress SVC dumps are good options.

Re: Need a simple counter

2010-09-07 Thread Rob Scott
The only viable solution I can think of would be to use XCF/XES services - however that does not really fall under the simple category. Rob Scott Lead Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com

Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available

2010-09-07 Thread Steve Comstock
On 9/7/2010 6:47 AM, Chase, John wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Comstock On 9/7/2010 6:32 AM, zMan wrote: Nope, not working. Same experience as John. I even did the forgot my password and set a new one: no joy. zMan, Lindy, John

Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available

2010-09-07 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Then I have no idea what to suggest. My ID is the same across IBMLINK, RESOURCELINK, SERVICELINK and ShopzSeries, if that makes a difference. Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of zMan Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010

SDSF REXX exec to read the actual job

2010-09-07 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi SDSF REXX try to read the actual , running job and got JCT NOT AVAILABLE , but it can read the active from anybody else. (sorry, I'm hyperactive today) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: SVCDUMP Control

2010-09-07 Thread George Henke
tyavm for ur prompt and precise replies that resolve the issue. On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Jim Mulder d10j...@us.ibm.com wrote: Is there anything in WLM or elsewhere to detect and/or stop tasks from taking too many SVCDUMPs in a short time interval thereby threatening storage

Re: O/T IBM to Ship World's Fastest Computer Chip

2010-09-07 Thread Howard Brazee
On 5 Sep 2010 12:26:56 -0700, li...@akphs.com (Phil Smith III) wrote: Having said that, I'll agree that *every* mainstream news story of which I've ever had first-hand knowledge got several significant and important facts wrong, such as names, ages, and confusing an employment address with a

Re: Practical uses for submitting JCL with other than RECFM=F(B),LRECL=80

2010-09-07 Thread Howard Brazee
On 6 Sep 2010 09:30:03 -0700, paulgboul...@aim.com (Paul Gilmartin) wrote: Apparently IBM saw sufficient need or business case for the facility to invest the resource to provide it in JES2. Why stop short of supporting it in ISPF? The business case could be something like It doesn't cost much,

Re: O/T IBM to Ship World's Fastest Computer Chip

2010-09-07 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Howard Brazee On 5 Sep 2010 12:26:56 -0700, li...@akphs.com (Phil Smith III) wrote: Having said that, I'll agree that *every* mainstream news story of which I've ever had first-hand knowledge got several

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-07 Thread Howard Brazee
On 3 Sep 2010 17:41:48 -0700, cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca (Clark Morris) wrote: Mirroring will happily duplicate bad data written by a misbehaving program (or by misbehaving hardware for that matter). And a backup program will blithely copy bad data to the backup mechanism. Sure, but we can go

Visibility of New Volume in Storage Group

2010-09-07 Thread Rick Humburg
Hello, I am trying to find an explanation for a volume note appearing in a list of volumes for a storage group. This volume has just been added. The search for volumes is being done with IEFSSREQ. I have a dim (unreliable?) memory about a volume not showing up until an allocation has been made

Re: Passing commands to SDSF in REXX

2010-09-07 Thread Shedlock, George
Absolutely not the most elegant way to do this, but: Call CallSDSF 'pre q*mstr;st' EXECio * diskr ISFOUT (finis stem Res.) free f(ISFOUT) CallSDSF:

Re: Storage not freed in IPCS dump

2010-09-07 Thread Santosh Kandi
Micheal, If your storage lies in a DQE range then it was Allocated. If it was not part of any following FQE's..it means it was getmained. In other words FQE's represent free areas within an allocated area(DQE). Assuming the storage in question is Global and getmained..the following command

Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available

2010-09-07 Thread Clark Morris
On 7 Sep 2010 01:59:58 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: if you find a solution please post it or send it to me. Post it because I am having the same problem and I am registered. Clark Morris -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu]

Re: Visibility of New Volume in Storage Group

2010-09-07 Thread Richard L Peurifoy
On 9/7/2010 10:00 AM, Rick Humburg wrote: Hello, I am trying to find an explanation for a volume note appearing in a list of volumes for a storage group. This volume has just been added. The search for volumes is being done with IEFSSREQ. I have a dim (unreliable?) memory about a volume not

Re: SVCDUMP Control

2010-09-07 Thread Lizette Koehler
Are you thinking of a generic SLIP trap that is ongoing? Yes, I just set the slip to say NODUMP or NOSVCD to suppress the SVC Dump portion. I have done this for specific tasks as well as for a pool of tasks. For any CICS* region or CICSABC region. I do not set it for the entire

Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available

2010-09-07 Thread John Laubenheimer
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 12:15:32 -0300, Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca wrote: On 7 Sep 2010 01:59:58 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: if you find a solution please post it or send it to me. Post it because I am having the same problem and I am registered. Clark Morris

Re: Visibility of New Volume in Storage Group

2010-09-07 Thread Lizette Koehler
I am trying to find an explanation for a volume note appearing in a list of volumes for a storage group. This volume has just been added. The search for volumes is being done with IEFSSREQ. I have a dim (unreliable?) memory about a volume not showing up until an allocation has been made

Re: Visibility of New Volume in Storage Group

2010-09-07 Thread Rob Scott
Rick I believe you might be referring to the fact that SMS will not report on space usage or capacity for the volume in the VLD until the first allocation is done. What does ISMF say about the volume from the active config? Rob Scott Lead Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton,

Re: IEC020I 001-1

2010-09-07 Thread Joe D'Alessandro
If you did not explicitly create a PDS but allowed IEWL and JCL to create this library, is it possible a PDS-E was created instead? A program that tries to read a program object from a PDS-E if it were a load module from a PDS (by using BSAM) will abend with s001-01 . As someone on the list

JES2 display job id

2010-09-07 Thread Rabbe, Luke
Is there a JES2 display command that will return a job's job id? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at

Re: JES2 display job id

2010-09-07 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Is there a JES2 display command that will return a job's job id? $d'jobname' - I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation! Kimota! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available

2010-09-07 Thread Gibney, Dave
Awhile back I had similar problems. In the end I needed to REMOVE the IBM web addresses from my IE trusted sites list. Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On

Re: JES2 display job id

2010-09-07 Thread Rabbe, Luke
I do see the jobid preceding the first $HASP890 message in the hardcopy record and displayed on the console. However, none of the returned $HASP890 messages have the jobid in the message text. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On

Re: JES2 display job id

2010-09-07 Thread Lizette Koehler
Is there a JES2 display command that will return a job's job id? A jobid is the job number, unless you are thinking of something else. $DJ'jobname' or $DJ'jobname',DETAIL will get you all the info on the job in JES2. Lizette

Re: O/T IBM to Ship World's Fastest Computer Chip

2010-09-07 Thread zMan
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Howard Brazee howard.bra...@cusys.edu wrote: On 5 Sep 2010 12:26:56 -0700, li...@akphs.com (Phil Smith III) wrote: Having said that, I'll agree that *every* mainstream news story of which I've ever had first-hand knowledge got several significant and important

Re: Passing commands to SDSF in REXX

2010-09-07 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Gadi, The easiest way is to move a value to zcmd seperated with semicolons. Another option is to use the command table. The idea is, again, use the zcmd field. Try this: 1.set your ispcmds to include a command called SDSF the invokes SDSF. 2. develop an empty ISPF panel (call it Pseudopan, if

Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available

2010-09-07 Thread William H. Blair
Tom Kelman complains: Yea, I tried the user ID and password I use for all other accesses to IBM and it won't accept it. When I try to reregister with my email address it says it's already in use. What gives? I don't know, but I had the same problem, so I called the phone number (one of

Re: SDSF REXX exec to read the actual job

2010-09-07 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Are you sure this is a job and not an STC? An STC might run under the master address space and does not need Jes2 to start. On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Miklos Szigetvari miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com wrote: Hi SDSF REXX try to read the actual , running job and got JCT NOT

Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available

2010-09-07 Thread Kelman, Tom
Bob, It's not working that way for me. At the top of the page it says Welcome Tom Kelman. So it looks like I'm signed in, but when I click on the link to download the PDF it says I'm not signed in. Something's screwed up. Tom Kelman Capacity Planning Commerce Bank, Kansas City

Re: JES2 display job id

2010-09-07 Thread R.S.
Lizette Koehler pisze: Is there a JES2 display command that will return a job's job id? A jobid is the job number, unless you are thinking of something else. $DJ'jobname' or $DJ'jobname',DETAIL will get you all the info on the job in JES2. Isn't it $DJ'jobname',LONG ? -- Radoslaw

Re: The new POO (Props / ProP ) is available

2010-09-07 Thread Kelman, Tom
Yea, I tried the user ID and password I use for all other accesses to IBM and it won't accept it. When I try to reregister with my email address it says it's already in use. What gives? Tom Kelman Capacity Planning Commerce Bank, Kansas City -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: O/T IBM to Ship World's Fastest Computer Chip

2010-09-07 Thread Phil Smith
zMan wrote: ? mainstream modified news, not story. Stupid English. Yes, quite right. Stupid English indeed. Maybe we need parens: I'll agree that *every* (mainstream news) story... (Yeah, *that'll* go over big with most people...) -- ...phsiii Phil Smith III p...@voltage.com Voltage Security,

Re: JES2 display job id

2010-09-07 Thread Lizette Koehler
I do see the jobid preceding the first $HASP890 message in the hardcopy record and displayed on the console. However, none of the returned $HASP890 messages have the jobid in the message text. First off, Yes - LONG not Detail $DJ'jobname',LONG Second, the JOBID is part of the SYSLOG

Re: JES2 display job id

2010-09-07 Thread Lizette Koehler
What version of z/OS? If z/OS V1.9 or above, you could use the SDSF REXX interface to get the jobid. Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the

Re: Need a simple counter

2010-09-07 Thread john gilmore
John McKown wrote: begin snippet There is no such general facility in z/OS. It is RYO (Roll Your Own - a reference to the very old days when people bought tobacco and paper separately and rolled their own cigarettes). /end snippet This is true, but there are facilities available---They are

Re: Need a simple counter

2010-09-07 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of john gilmore Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 2:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Need a simple counter John McKown wrote: begin snippet There is no such general

Re: O/T IBM to Ship World's Fastest Computer Chip

2010-09-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In s54886h2q5b5n2gn9p2a5qtgum8rpmf...@4ax.com, on 09/05/2010 at 06:55 PM, Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca said: I doubt a reporter would be able to determine easily which side of an argument is flat out wrong, even with some hours of research. However, a reporter working offline

Re: IEC020I 001-1

2010-09-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In aadad469c0429c4fb23ce1486e5c10da3d80968...@ing.com, on 09/06/2010 at 11:29 AM, Fred van der Windt fred.van.der.wi...@mail.ing.nl said: I'm trying to read a RECFM=U partitioned dataset Directory or member? but keep getting a IEC020I 001-1 message and a S001 abend. What was in the

Re: JES2 vs. JES3

2010-09-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 45d79eacefba9b428e3d400e924d36b903e59...@iwdubcormsg007.sci.local, on 09/05/2010 at 06:13 PM, Thompson, Steve steve_thomp...@stercomm.com said: Why is JES2 better than JES3? Why is an airplane better than a submarine? I'd like to know whether you plan to travel under the ice or over it

Re: Datamation issue coining term nybble?

2010-09-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 02c201cb4d3f$546191f0$fd24b5...@net, on 09/05/2010 at 04:14 PM, William H. Blair wmhbl...@comcast.net said: What have you heard or what do you know about that story? I read it, but can't remember the issue. That was back when the S/360 was new and the author didn't quite understand the

Re: JES2 vs. JES3

2010-09-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 201009060837.mll29...@c2beaomr03.btconnect.com, on 09/06/2010 at 09:37 AM, Terry Sambrooks terry.sambro...@btclick.com said: Many of the more senior members of the list will know that the two Job Entry Systems existed prior to MVS but were developed independently for different purposes.

Re: Need a simple counter

2010-09-07 Thread Rob Scott
Most CF services require supervisor state and Key0-7. Rob Scott Lead Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Need a simple counter

2010-09-07 Thread McKown, John
Hum, then I would suggest that they are not simple as was requested in the Subject: line . Quite possible to people with the talent, writing such is simple. But not necessarily desirable to take advantage of in user written, in-house, applications code. I don't know why the OP wanted this

Re: JES2 vs. JES3

2010-09-07 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 10:04 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: JES2 vs. JES3 In 45d79eacefba9b428e3d400e924d36b903e59...@iwdubcormsg007.sci.local, on

Re: O/T IBM to Ship World's Fastest Computer Chip

2010-09-07 Thread Howard Brazee
On 7 Sep 2010 12:26:57 -0700, shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) wrote: I doubt a reporter would be able to determine easily which side of an argument is flat out wrong, even with some hours of research. However, a reporter working offline should at least be able to consult

Re: JES2 vs. JES3

2010-09-07 Thread George Henke
I was just a lowly applications COBOL programmer at Bankers Trust when Bob Graham suddenly appeared there, fresh out of Brown with a degree in Computer Science, and morphed HASP into ASP. He is rightfully regarded as the father of ASP, if not JES3 as well. Until recently, when I started my first

Re: Need a simple counter

2010-09-07 Thread john gilmore
The OP asked for a perhaps SYSPLEX-wide facility. The CF-based approach I suggested is probably a minimal way to meet this requirement. For those of you who have not looked at such problems in any detail itr is perhaps appropriate to recall that SYSPLEX-wide data sharing poses significant,

Re: JES2 vs. JES3

2010-09-07 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2010-09-07 21:36, Thompson, Steve pisze: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 10:04 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: JES2 vs. JES3 In

IBM sort maybe in for some competition?

2010-09-07 Thread Ed Gould
http://code.google.com/p/back40computing/wiki/RadixSorting Sorting Algorithm Breaks Giga-Sort Barrier, With GPUs     from the quick-like-double-time dept.     posted by timothy on Sunday August 29, @22:22 (Graphics) -- For

Re: Synchronizing the IOCDS and the DS6800

2010-09-07 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
Thanks to all who responded. Due to a hiccup obtaining the COD it took a little longer than expected to verify our solution. I submit the following for the archives in case someone else should need the information. In the IOCDS and IODF: FICON CHPIDs E0, E1, F0, and F1 connect to the

Re: JES2 vs. JES3

2010-09-07 Thread Mike Schwab
On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: Why is an airplane better than a submarine? I'd like to know whether you plan to travel under the ice or over it before answering the question. --     Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT    

Re: Code names for zSeries

2010-09-07 Thread Phil Smith
Foundit: z10 -- zHE, zMR BTW, someone posited that the next machine was always zNext. I'm willing to believe that, but I've never heard that until this pass. -- ...phsiii Phil Smith III p...@voltage.com Voltage Security, Inc. www.voltage.com (703) 476-4511 (home office) (703) 568-6662 (cell)

Re: JES2 vs. JES3

2010-09-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4c86a688.7060...@bremultibank.com.pl, on 09/07/2010 at 10:54 PM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl said: Theorethical case: If you start from scratch, then you should choose JES2. Nonsense; if you start from scratch, you should analyze which one best meets your needs. -- Shmuel

Re: IBM so rt maybe i n for some competiti on?‏

2010-09-07 Thread john gilmore
You are a very useful gadfly. Your posts regularly signal the beginnings of long threads/conversations. This time, however, . . . Radix sorts, internal or external, are certainly useful; but they are not new. The first edition of Knuth's TACP, volume 3, Sorting and Searching, that I

z990s still running?

2010-09-07 Thread zMan
Just curious -- I came across a customer who is still running on a z990, with no plans to upgrade or move off of z. That surprised me: I'd've bet that the only z990s still running were in companies who are certain they're turning off the z system (no matter how long it takes) and are thus willing

Re: z990s still running?

2010-09-07 Thread Bob Shannon
We have two z890s (in addition to a z9 and a z10). They provide cheap MIPS. DB2 V10 will run on an z/890/z990 (but not on an z800/z900). However, both of the older classes of machines are stabilized so far as adding features is concerned. Bob Shannon Rocket Software

Re: IBM sort maybe in for some competition?

2010-09-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 21:39:31 +, john gilmore john_w_gilm...@msn.com wrote: You are a very useful gadfly. Your posts regularly signal the beginnings of long threads/conversations. This time, however, . . . Radix sorts, internal or external, are certainly useful; but they are not new. The

Re: Passing commands to SDSF in REXX

2010-09-07 Thread Sebastian Welton
I suppose you could write your own 'SUBMIT' command which with outtrap would get the IKJ message, in turn getting the jobname, pass this to a REXX exec calling SDSF and setting isfprefix for the jobname and this would in turn then perform the ST command. However once you've got the job details

Re: Datamation issue coining term nybble?

2010-09-07 Thread Rick Fochtman
---snip-- For those who are not familiar with it, Datamation used to have some excruciatingly funny articles, some of which were collected under the title Faith, Hope and Parity. I didn't think much of their news coverage, but

Re: JES2 vs. JES3

2010-09-07 Thread Rick Fochtman
---snip- Why is JES2 better than JES3? -unsnip-- Each one has its merits and drawbacks. Jes2, in general, has more limited capabilities but a much smaller

Re: z990s still running?

2010-09-07 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 09/07/2010 05:42:34 PM: Just curious -- I came across a customer who is still running on a z990, with no plans to upgrade or move off of z. That surprised me: I'd've bet that the only z990s still running were in companies who are

Re: z990s still running?

2010-09-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 18:37:39 -0400, Jim Mulder wrote: We use a z800 as a support system for our many z/OS System Test and Performance Measurement machines. Why? Because even though almost everything about it is free to us, we pay real money for one thing - a license for one ISV product which

Re: z990s still running?

2010-09-07 Thread Shane
I just assisted in upgrading a z990 customer to z/OS 1.9 (yes I/they are aware that also is about to drop off support). Their DR is an 890. No exactly on the bleeding edge. They would like to be rid of it all. Shane ... On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 17:42 -0400, zMan wrote: At the risk of asking

Re: IBM sort maybe in for some competition?

2010-09-07 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 9/7/2010 5:56 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: The 82 rules! http://www.columbia.edu/acis/history/sorter.html Back in the mid-sixties there was a fortune teller in Times Square in New York City who had clients pick some cards out of a tray, ran them through the sorter, and predicted their

Re: z990s still running?

2010-09-07 Thread Eric Bielefeld
I have a question. When did the z10 come out. I think it was 3 to 4 years ago, but I don't remember. I would think that people who leased a z990 a year or two before the z10 was available could still have them under a 5 year lease. I know there are software discounts if you are on the

Re: z990s still running?

2010-09-07 Thread zMan
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Bob Shannon bshan...@rocketsoftware.com wrote: We have two z890s (in addition to a z9 and a z10). They provide cheap MIPS. DB2 V10 will run on an z/890/z990 (but not on an z800/z900). However, both of the older classes of machines are stabilized so far as

Re: z990s still running?

2010-09-07 Thread zMan
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Jim Mulder d10j...@us.ibm.com wrote:  We use a z800 as a support system for our many z/OS System Test and Performance Measurement machines.  Why?  Because even though almost everything about it is free to us, we pay real money for one thing - a license for one

Re: z990s still running?

2010-09-07 Thread zMan
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Shane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au wrote: I just assisted in upgrading a z990 customer to z/OS 1.9 (yes I/they are aware that also is about to drop off support). Their DR is an 890. No exactly on the bleeding edge. They would like to be rid of it all. So they're in

Re: z990s still running?

2010-09-07 Thread zMan
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Eric Bielefeld eric-ibmm...@wi.rr.com wrote: I have a question.  When did the z10 come out.  I think it was 3 to 4 years ago, but I don't remember.  I would think that people who leased a z990 a year or two before the z10 was available could still have them

Re: z990s still running?

2010-09-07 Thread zMan
Oops, didn't mean those posts to sound dismissive -- you don't count! I was musing, figuring which logical bucket you belong in. Thanks for the posts! Hope to see more... -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it

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