Antwort: Encrypting offsite data ...

2011-05-18 Thread Michael Klaeschen
...should work if you have not too old 3592 units. They can use an encryption key manager EKM for the cipher phrase. This is an STC in z/OS. Try GA76-0418 as a starting point. Cheers Michael Stephen Y Odo Gesendet von: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 2011-05-18 20:56 Bitte antworten an IBM M

Re: Running a SYSPLEX - what's needed

2011-05-18 Thread Shane Ginnane
> >If you already have GRS ring, adding a system won't be too big a deal. > > That's true only if performance doesn't matter. Rubbish. Performance matters to everyone - GRS ring users included. If they already have a ring, they already have a handle on 2 system impacts when they bring up the sand

Re: Running a SYSPLEX - what's needed

2011-05-18 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>If you already have GRS ring, adding a system won't be too big a deal. That's true only if performance doesn't matter. - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access in

Re: What does "issue" mean? (Was: SDSF issue)

2011-05-18 Thread Linda Mooney
Hi Ron, Trust me, I understand how you feel.  Thing is, if you leave and if more of us leave, he wins and all of the rest of us who want and need this forum lose.  I have a young Lab who cuts the fool and carries on and on  The more I try to correct and instruct her, the worse she behaves

Re: Encrypting offsite data ...

2011-05-18 Thread Shane Ginnane
This being the site that a couple of years ago was 20 years into its 5 year plan to get off the mainframe ?. Pity to see another one (finally) bite the dust. With all this (encrypted) data, how are you going to read (most of) it after the box goes away ?. Shane ... On Thu, May 19th, 2011 at 4:5

Re: Running a SYSPLEX - what's needed

2011-05-18 Thread Shane Ginnane
Anybody asked *why* you need a sysplex at all ?. Not that I'm against it, a base sysplex seems an eminent fit You currently fire up 2 LPARs - let's hope you use GRS (lots of small sites think they can be careful enough not to need it for a sandbox ...). If you already have GRS ring, adding a syste

Re: What does "issue" mean? (Was: SDSF issue)

2011-05-18 Thread Rick Fochtman
--- Well everyone, this LISTSERV has been hijacked by one contributor and is now bordering on the ridiculous. Good day and good luck to all those I have debated, agreed with, and most importantly learnt from for the last 14

Re: Running a SYSPLEX - what's needed

2011-05-18 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Most forms of 'data sharing' in the DB2 sense (I don't know about IMS) require >CF structures. There are two structures IMS must have. One is a VSAM extent map. The second is locks (I think). There are optional ones for shared queues, iirc. - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL

Re: Running a SYSPLEX - what's needed

2011-05-18 Thread Skip Robinson
As others have said, you do not need a coupling facility to run a sysplex. We have a 'basic sysplex' with three members that communicate via CTC. Sharable functions are quite limited, however. Most forms of 'data sharing' in the DB2 sense (I don't know about IMS) require CF structures. Furtherm

Re: Running a SYSPLEX - what's needed

2011-05-18 Thread Bob Rutledge
John Thinnes wrote: In order to save on IMS MLC charges (uses about 3%), we are investigating adding a second 'IMS LPAR' to our configuration (on same CEC). Currently we are running a 2096-T01. We run a production LPAR and occasionally a TECH sandbox LPAR. In 2012 we may be looking at repla

Re: Running a SYSPLEX - what's needed

2011-05-18 Thread Ernie Takeuchi
John, Your z9 already has an internal coupling links and theoretically you can run a CF lpar in your z9. Since you have a single engine T01, IBM warns against doing this. You may want to check with your IBM business partner about getting sub-capacity pricing for IMS. You would pay for the am

Re: Running a SYSPLEX - what's needed

2011-05-18 Thread Staller, Allan
A CF absolutely *NOT REEQUIRED*. It is only *HIGHLY DESIRABLE* . A SYSPLEX can be implemented with only XCF (over CTC). I speak from experience. I am doing this today. There are many functions available with a CF that will have to be forgone (e.g. VTAM persistent nodes, HSM common recall queue,...

Mark your calendar for VM & Linux Summer Workshop (July 2011)

2011-05-18 Thread Pamela Christina in spring-eee Endicott NY
Cross-posted to IBMVM, IBMMAIN, LINUX390 for the VM enthusiasts. | Update: 18 May 2011 | The VM Workshop registration form is on the VM Workshop web site. | Reserve place today. | http://www.vmworkshop.org/ | Initial post below to refresh your memory: Hi, just wanted to get this on your cale

Running a SYSPLEX - what's needed

2011-05-18 Thread John Thinnes
In order to save on IMS MLC charges (uses about 3%), we are investigating adding a second 'IMS LPAR' to our configuration (on same CEC). Currently we are running a 2096-T01. We run a production LPAR and occasionally a TECH sandbox LPAR. In 2012 we may be looking at replacing the T01 with a 2

Re: LE backwards compatibility

2011-05-18 Thread Hal Merritt
The LE migration guide is your friend. Read and heed and you'll be fine. HTH and good luck. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 12:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Su

Re: LE backwards compatibility

2011-05-18 Thread Gross, Randall [GCG-PFS]
A toleration PTF is required if you want to run code compiled under the 1.12 version of the COBOL compiler on a system with the 1.10 runtime libraries... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO Sent: We

Re: Looking for Control Blocks (Subject Added)

2011-05-18 Thread Ed Finnell
Last time I tried many of the links were obsolete. For lsoft I use the CATALIST function and do searches. Unfortunately everybody's not lsoft. In a message dated 5/18/2011 2:03:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, markhamm...@ateras.com writes: http://www.cbttape.org/internet.phtml --

Re: Looking for Control Blocks (Subject Added)

2011-05-18 Thread Mark Hammond
Here is a list from the CBT tape page http://www.cbttape.org/internet.phtml Mark Hammond -Original Message- From: Mike Schwab [mailto:mike.a.sch...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 1:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Looking for Control Blocks (Subject Added) Does som

Re: Looking for Control Blocks (Subject Added)

2011-05-18 Thread Mike Schwab
Does someone have a web page that is list of forums for various mainframe subjects? On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Lindy Mayfield wrote: > No problem.  It was pretty much right in my face when you asked the question. > > For RACF questions there is a specific list.  Of course  you can ask on >

Encrypting offsite data ...

2011-05-18 Thread Stephen Y Odo
We're looking to encrypt all data that leaves the data center (offsite backup tapes, stuff we send via ssh, etc.). Backup is done with a variety of products: FDR, DFSMSdfp, DFSMShsm, ADABAS backup, etc. Do you have any recommendations for products? Or whether or not a do-it-yourself approach

Re: Looking for Control Blocks (Subject Added)

2011-05-18 Thread Lindy Mayfield
No problem. It was pretty much right in my face when you asked the question. For RACF questions there is a specific list. Of course you can ask on IBM-MAIN, and some will help. But be prepared to be sent here: RACF Discussion List Regards, Lindy -Original Message- From: IBM Mainfr

Re: Reading dumps with secondary address spaces

2011-05-18 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 18 May 2011 13:30:59 -0400 Peter Relson wrote: :>If I remember correctly, the answer is "nowhere" -- Sysabend dumps, :>Sysudumps and Sysmdumps do not capture data from anything other than the :>primary address space. Might that be *HOME*? -- Binyamin Dissen http://www.dissensoftware.

Re: z/OS 1.11 question on DFDSS/ADRDSSU

2011-05-18 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
If datasets with your HLQ need the protection you indicate, you should not be allowed to place them on the same volumes as datasets that don't. The fact that you can means you should take the extra care to see that you don't. It should not be that big a deal. You have already added one of the

Re: z/OS 1.11 question on DFDSS/ADRDSSU

2011-05-18 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Chris, Are they full volume or dataset-level backups that you're restoring from? SMS or non-SMS volumes? Could you eliminate the problem completely by directing the restore to a different volume instead of the default? Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mail

Re: Question about Dynamic allocate

2011-05-18 Thread Jim Blalock
I'm not sure if it would help either, but it's an easy thing to try :-) On 5/18/2011 11:29 AM, Dana Mitchell wrote: On Wed, 18 May 2011 11:18:08 -0400, Jim Blalock wrote: Also, are you coding DYNAMNBR= on the STC's EXEC card? Might try that first, it's easier than debugging DYNALLOCs :-) --

DFHSM QUESTION : FAILEDCREATE

2011-05-18 Thread esmie moo
Good Morning Gentle Readers,   I am performing a cleanup of HSM dsns and I executed the following command: HSEND LIST TTOC SELECT(FAILEDCREATE) OUTDATASET(PROM.DF.FAILEDCREA) Several tapes were flagged and this message is being posted after each tape. ARC0378I TTOC RECORD AND TAPE MEDIA CONTENTS AR

Re: Reading dumps with secondary address spaces

2011-05-18 Thread Peter Relson
>Where is it documented on how to read sysudumps with secondary >address spaces. I need to see the information in the secondary >address space If I remember correctly, the answer is "nowhere" -- Sysabend dumps, Sysudumps and Sysmdumps do not capture data from anything other than the primary ad

Re: z/OS 1.11 question on DFDSS/ADRDSSU

2011-05-18 Thread Mike Schwab
add DS(INCLUDE(**) EXCLUDE(SYS1.VTOC.**, SYS1.VVDS.**, *OMVS.**, hlq.**)) or as you need. (we have a separate backup step for *OMVS*.** files). On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Chris Hoelscher wrote: > I occasionally restore using ADRDSSU and rename the restored dataset to my > HLQ - so that I

RES: LE backwards compatibility

2011-05-18 Thread ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO
Dave, My concern is related to LE and Cobol. OS/390 1.10 ? Atenciosamente / Regards / Saludos Ituriel do Nascimento Neto BANCO BRADESCO S.A. 4254 / DPCD Engenharia de Software Sistemas Operacionais Mainframes Tel: +55 11 4197-2021 R: 22021 Fax: +55 11 4197-2814 -Mensagem original- De: I

z/OS 1.11 question on DFDSS/ADRDSSU

2011-05-18 Thread Chris Hoelscher
I occasionally restore using ADRDSSU and rename the restored dataset to my HLQ - so that I can have an older version of a dataset to compare to the current dataset. By default (it appears) - the restore process will put the restored/renamed dataset on the same DASD volume as from which it was

Re: DFSMShsm question

2011-05-18 Thread Staller, Allan
No. Incremental backups can be done on both SMS and Non-SMS managed data. The mechanism's for specification are different. Check the ADDVOL command. HTH, I'm looking at setting up incremental backups with DFSMShsm. In the DFSMShsm Managing Your Own Data (SC35-0420) manual, it seems that incr

Re: LE backwards compatibility

2011-05-18 Thread Thomas David Rivers
ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO wrote: Hi all, Do you know any issues regarding LE backwards compatibility ? I'm specially interested with z/OS 1.12 and 1.10, but any other history is welcome. Do you mean in the C/C++ compilers - or the LE runtime? I'm not sure, but I think IBM is dropping t

Re: WLC and 4HRA across CEC's

2011-05-18 Thread Al Sherkow
As I wrote to Peter on May 6: - The Ts&Cs of WLC agreement signed by each customer include "the highest number of MSUs ... running on the same eligible machine during a reporting period." To my reading "same eligible machine" limits the simultaneous 4HRA to the "same eligible machine" n

DFSMShsm question

2011-05-18 Thread Frank Chu
Hello All, I'm looking at setting up incremental backups with DFSMShsm. In the DFSMShsm Managing Your Own Data (SC35-0420) manual, it seems that incremental backups of datasets is only possible when SMS is active. For a non-SMS environment (like ours), only full volume dumps is possible. I

Re: Question about Dynamic allocate

2011-05-18 Thread Dana Mitchell
On Wed, 18 May 2011 11:18:08 -0400, Jim Blalock wrote: > >Also, are you coding DYNAMNBR= on the STC's EXEC card? Might try that >first, it's easier than debugging DYNALLOCs :-) > >-- Jim Blalock, Clemson U. > Jim, I'm not sure what DYNAMNBR would help me with in this situation? Dana

Re: Question about Dynamic allocate

2011-05-18 Thread Jim Blalock
Hi Dana, I would try coding the DYNALLOC free request (removing FREE=CLOSE) and see what RC's you get. That may give you more clues. Also, are you coding DYNAMNBR= on the STC's EXEC card? Might try that first, it's easier than debugging DYNALLOCs :-) -- Jim Blalock, Clemson U. On 5/18/2

Question about Dynamic allocate

2011-05-18 Thread Dana Mitchell
Hello all, We have an inhouse written STC that processes messages from MQ and writes them to a dataset. This processing goes like this: 1. DYNALLOC on DATA.SET.NAME a. Request the current generation ( done by putting 0 in DALMEMBR) b. Specify DALCLOSE (equivalent to FREE=CLOS

Re: WLC and 4HRA across CEC's

2011-05-18 Thread Hal Merritt
I was lead to understand that 'reporting period' for R4A* MSU's was 30 minutes or so. For a single CEC, your bill would be based on the highest sum of the R4A's for all LPAR's in a 30 minute period for that CEC. Generally, IBM software is attached to a single CPU serial number. In my case, I

Re: What does "issue" mean? (Was: SDSF issue)

2011-05-18 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 18 May 2011 09:55:53 +0800, David Crayford wrote: >On 18/05/2011 9:12 AM, Ron Hawkins wrote: >> >> Well everyone, this LISTSERV has been hijacked by one contributor I agree. >> and is now >> bordering on the ridiculous. Good day and good luck to all those I have >> debated, agreed with,

LE backwards compatibility

2011-05-18 Thread ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO
Hi all, Do you know any issues regarding LE backwards compatibility ? I'm specially interested with z/OS 1.12 and 1.10, but any other history is welcome. Atenciosamente / Regards / Saludos Ituriel do Nascimento Neto BANCO BRADESCO S.A. 4254 / DPCD Engenharia de Software Sistemas Operacionais Ma

Re: WLC and 4HRA across CEC's

2011-05-18 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Peter Gammage > > * Cross posted to IBM-Main and LPAR-Pricing > > Folks, > > I thought I had a good understanding of VWLC and how chargeable MSU's were > calculated, but have recently been re-edu

Re: Running Security System

2011-05-18 Thread Jose Adauto Ribeiro
Thanks, Tom. I will do this. José ADAUTO Ribeiro Em 18/05/2011 09:31, Chicklon, Thomas < thomas.chick...@53.com > escreveu: Check out the RCVT control block. You'll find a pointer to it in the CVT. On my system running Top Secret, the RCVTID field changes to RTSS. I *think* on a RACF syst

Re: Running Security System

2011-05-18 Thread Chicklon, Thomas
Check out the RCVT control block. You'll find a pointer to it in the CVT. On my system running Top Secret, the RCVTID field changes to RTSS. I *think* on a RACF system it contains RCTV. Not sure what you would find with a systems running ACF2. Tom Chicklon >Hi, > >How do I find out, researchi

Re: Looking for Control Blocks (Subject Added)

2011-05-18 Thread Jose Adauto Ribeiro
Oh, you are very fast. Thans Lindy Mayfield and Lizette Koehler, this is what I need (for now). I will put some more doubts about Top Secret x RACF on z/OS, I hope you can help me. Thanks again. José ADAUTO Ribeiro Em 18/05/2011 09:18, Lindy Mayfield < lindy.mayfi...@ssf.sas.com > escreve

Re: Looking for Control Blocks (Subject Added)

2011-05-18 Thread Lindy Mayfield
and for the data areas: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ICHZC4A0/1.39 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 3:14 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re:

Re: Looking for Control Blocks (Subject Added)

2011-05-18 Thread Lindy Mayfield
and in Rexx: /* rexx */ CVT=c2d(storage(10,4)); RCVT=c2d(storage(d2x(CVT+x2d('3e0')),4)); /* Get acronym (1st 4 bytes) from the RCVT */ Secacr=storage(d2x(RCVT),4); select

Re: How to tell what security product

2011-05-18 Thread Lindy Mayfield
how I did it was from the RCVT. if RCVT then RACF if ACF2 then ACF2 if RTSS then TopSecret -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jose Adauto Ribeiro Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 3:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject:

Re: Looking for Control Blocks (Subject Added)

2011-05-18 Thread Lizette Koehler
> Hi, > > How do I find out, researching control blocks, preferably, if running Top > Secret or > RACFon z / OS? > > Thanks in advance. It depends on what you are looking for. Do you want the ACEE, Data Sets? Are you going to use a program (written in Assembler or PL/I) or something like R

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2011-05-18 Thread Jose Adauto Ribeiro
Hi, How do I find out, researching control blocks, preferably, if running Top Secret or RACFon z / OS? Thanks in advance. José ADAUTO Ribeiro -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lis

Re: What does "issue" mean? (Was: SDSF issue)

2011-05-18 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Graham Hobbs > > Does this Mason have a job? I think he once posted that he's "retired" -- which for some seems to be a euphemism for "bored and bitter". -jc-

Re: What does "issue" mean? (Was: SDSF issue)

2011-05-18 Thread Chase, John
> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Chris Mason wrote: > Indeed; lately, Mr. Mason has become a rather tedious vacuum. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.

Re: SDSF API - REXX or Java?

2011-05-18 Thread Scott Chapman
Funny you should ask. I'm working on a CMG paper about Java on z/OS right now. The overhead is not nearly as bad as it used to be, and on modern hardware, especially with zAAPs (or zAAP on zIIP to forestall that point), probably immaterial for a lot of things. But you specifically said that

Re: "Under z/OS Unix"

2011-05-18 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
>>Terminal (not command) behaviour: No >> >Surely you're not thinking of the dreadful RUNNING/INPUT toggle >(I try not to). IBM should be ashamed. Can't remember what I'm thinking of ;-) too long since I last used (or was force to use) TSO/OMVS. -- Peter Hunkeler --

Contributions (Was: USS, issue and trolling)

2011-05-18 Thread Chris Mason
If the dictator of Lodz were reading this I'd have taken the trouble to point out something to improve his already excellent command of English, namely that the possessive pronoun for the third person singular male person is "his" - and I'm sorry if he imagined I might be called Christine. -

WLC and 4HRA across CEC's

2011-05-18 Thread Peter Gammage
* Cross posted to IBM-Main and LPAR-Pricing Folks, I thought I had a good understanding of VWLC and how chargeable MSU's were calculated, but have recently been re-educated and it concerned me a little so I thought I'd check others understanding. The WLC announcements (lin

Re: Shop Zseries Down I have http 500 server error ?

2011-05-18 Thread Bernard Coeytaux
IT IS OK NOW thanks -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

Re: Shop Zseries Down I have http 500 server error ?

2011-05-18 Thread גדי בן אבי
I have the same problem. It happens after when you try to sign in. Gadi -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bernard Coeytaux Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 12:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Shop Zseries Down I have htt

Re: Shop Zseries Down I have http 500 server error ?

2011-05-18 Thread Juergen Keller
no its not down .. we get the same error and just click the RELOAD-button from the browser and the page will be displayed. Maybe a timing-problem??? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Shop Zseries Down I have http 500 server error ?

2011-05-18 Thread Bernard Coeytaux
Shop Zseries Down I have http 500 server error ? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/a

Re: USS, issue and trolling

2011-05-18 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
"R.S." wrote in message news:<4dd375ac.5060...@bremultibank.com.pl>... > Rule of thumb: DON'T FEED THE TROLL. > > I'm really tired with the noise generated by ONE person and their > responders. I'm trying to omit threads like "USS" "overloaded acronyms" > and so on, but it doesn't work - I was

USS, issue and trolling

2011-05-18 Thread R.S.
Rule of thumb: DON'T FEED THE TROLL. I'm really tired with the noise generated by ONE person and their responders. I'm trying to omit threads like "USS" "overloaded acronyms" and so on, but it doesn't work - I was caught in "SDSF" topic. I already put the author of this noise to my killfile,