Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS

2012-01-05 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Hunkeler Peter , KIUP 4 peter.hunke...@credit-suisse.com wrote in message news:dc74548a025aff4a85f46926802a9b230779d...@chsa1035.share.beluni.net ... The SMF SUBSYS types *I* am aware of are JESx, STC, TSO, OMVS, ASCH. That's it. There are three, let's say kinds of address spaces: STC, TSO,

Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS

2012-01-05 Thread Barbara Nitz
You probably meant idle BPXAS here. Furthermore, any non-idle BPXAS, i.e. one that is currently hosting a forked process, also is of SMF type OMVS and still shows up as STCn. I wasn't sure about BPXAS. But no, I meant BPXOINIT. For the simple reason that there's some sort of type in the

Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS

2012-01-05 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
You probably meant idle BPXAS here. Furthermore, any non-idle BPXAS, i.e. one that is currently hosting a forked process, also is of SMF type OMVS and still shows up as STCn. I wasn't sure about BPXAS. But no, I meant BPXOINIT. I'm puzzled. There is only one BPXOINIT per system. BPXOINIT is

Was: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS - How does Subsys of SILO work?

2012-01-05 Thread Martin Packer
Topical: Just yesterday a colleague and I were discussing a user-defined (not SSI) subsystem - SILO - that a customer appears to have. You can guess (as I did) the origin of the subsystem. Anyone know anything about the subsystem? For some reason they have excluded SMF records with that

Re: IBM manual formats

2012-01-05 Thread Jan MOEYERSONS
On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 17:19:14 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: If ity won't run on my machine then LR is not easier to use and doesn't offer me functionality. This is another case of IBM's split personality; they claim to be pushing Linux, but lots of key features

Re: IBM manual formats

2012-01-05 Thread Jan MOEYERSONS
On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 16:00:27 -0600, Kirk Wolf k...@dovetail.com wrote: FWIW, we use Linux on our desktops and have found that the following process works fantastic for IBM manuals. Something similar might be possible on Windoze (or OSX) with a similar tool or under cygwin, but I haven't tried it.

Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS - How does Subsys of SILO work?

2012-01-05 Thread Rob Scott
Martin, I have seen this at various sites as well, and thought that it was just the vendor's way of writing the user SMF records for tape silo performance. For example, you can use : SMFEWTM (Rx),SUBSYS==CL4'SILO',. Maybe originally there was some other compelling reason for this

Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS - How does Subsys of SILO work?

2012-01-05 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Martin Packer martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com wrote in message news:of81a0b4c6.95d34f88-on8025797c.002b1874-8025797c.003d0...@uk.ibm.c om... Topical: Just yesterday a colleague and I were discussing a user-defined (not SSI) subsystem - SILO - that a customer appears to have. You can guess (as I did)

DFHSM QUESTION : Allocation/migration Threshold

2012-01-05 Thread willie bunter
Good Morning To All,   I have a problem with a SMS managed storage pool which is increasing quite rapidly.  In this pool there is no ML2 migration .  We have Auto Migrate Auto Backup turned on and INTERVAL MIGRATION.    Below is the THRESHOLD which we are using for this pool.  

Re: DFHSM QUESTION : Allocation/migration Threshold

2012-01-05 Thread Staller, Allan
Migration will begin when the SG occupancy exceeds the high threshold and continue until less than the SG low threshold, or no additional datasets are eligible for migration. This is subject to additional constraints specified in the MGMTCLAS for migration eligibility. IMO your low thresholds

Re: 21st Century Migrates Mainframe with Clerity

2012-01-05 Thread Schneck.Glenn
Although there may be some 'success' stories the issue I have with most vendors is where they tout - We migrated this company off the mainframe and save 10,000+ MIPS. In reality they probably moved a small application of about 1000 - 2000 MIPS which happened to be the last one on the mainframe.

Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support

2012-01-05 Thread Kirk Wolf
Gerard, Correct; the Co:Z Toolkit (Co:Z Launcher, Dataset Pipes, Co:Z SFTP, Co:Z Batch) are free as in beer. See: http://dovetail.com/docs/coz/licenses.html Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com Commercial license and support agreements are also available, see:

Re: DFHSM QUESTION : Allocation/migration Threshold

2012-01-05 Thread Hervey Martinez
If there is no ML2 migration then everything is migrating to the ML1 pool and the ML1 pool may be full; if so, then it needs to be expanded. Normally, ML2 migration is governed by the management class; so, how do you keep this pool from ML2 migration? Also, Interval migration runs every hour on

Re: 21st Century Migrates Mainframe with Clerity

2012-01-05 Thread DKM
The key lines for me are We had a number of duplicate systems, most notably around policy and quote administration, and there were two technical platforms, Unix-based and mainframe and The mainframe applications 21st Century was migrating mostly comprised batch programs that perform

Re: 21st Century Migrates Mainframe with Clerity

2012-01-05 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
glenn.schn...@suntrust.com (Schneck.Glenn) writes: Although there may be some 'success' stories the issue I have with most vendors is where they tout - We migrated this company off the mainframe and save 10,000+ MIPS. In reality they probably moved a small application of about 1000 - 2000

Re: 21st Century Migrates Mainframe with Clerity

2012-01-05 Thread Roberts, John J
Although there may be some 'success' stories the issue I have with most vendors is where they tout - We migrated this company off the mainframe and save 10,000+ MIPS. In reality they probably moved a small application of about 1000 - 2000 MIPS which happened to be the last one on the mainframe.

Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support

2012-01-05 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Kirk Wolf Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 8:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support Gerard, Correct; the Co:Z Toolkit (Co:Z

Re: Was: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS - How does Subsys of SILO work?

2012-01-05 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 11:06:25 +, Martin Packer martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com wrote: Topical: Just yesterday a colleague and I were discussing a user-defined (not SSI) subsystem - SILO - that a customer appears to have. You can guess (as I did) the origin of the subsystem. Anyone know anything about

APPLY RSU Question

2012-01-05 Thread Sérgio Lima Costa
Hello List, I received the RSU cartridge here from IBM , and for the first time, need execute this. Here, is ZOS 1.12. Can someone, give the way for do this ? What is the manual that have information about this ? Thanks. Atenção: Esta mensagem foi enviada

Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support

2012-01-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In CAArMM9RSBmtMcwWBQ1zo20zz-Vfms8t=1Z673ykSfBU-8C=q...@mail.gmail.com, on 01/04/2012 at 07:07 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net said: Please do show how this would look using APPC. I'm not familiar with anything like your socket DD. There was a suite of APPC utilities that included an FTP; I

Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support

2012-01-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In cajtoo5-bivqelhzmyczfsjbtnqo3trrq_ztpcol5qycekm0...@mail.gmail.com, on 01/04/2012 at 05:05 PM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com said: OK. Except maybe the site defined DEST=SMTP ? Yes; if you're routing the messages with DEST rather than a writer name then you need to define it

Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS

2012-01-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 01b201cccb2d$0cf4abf0$26de03d0$@mcn.org, on 01/04/2012 at 02:06 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said: I would assume that the writing of SMF Type 30 records would be controlled by SUBSYS(TSO and SUBSYS(JESn statements -- is that correct? There are additional SUBSYS values and Type 30

Re: Copying a PDS to a similiar PDS (backup)

2012-01-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In CD1D59802B684ED295627099B45FFEAF@graham, on 01/04/2012 at 08:01 PM, Graham Hobbs gho...@cdpwise.net said: Found another JCL example and notes in another doc .. glaring errors in SYSUT2! SYSUT2 has to have exactly the same attributes as SYSUT1 i.e. RECFM, LRECL, BLKSIZE, allocated CYLS,

Re: APPLY RSU Question

2012-01-05 Thread McKown, John
The SMP/E manuals are here: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/Shelves/GIM2BK80 The general overview is you first do a RECEIVE. You then do an APPLY CHECK. Look at the output to check any problems or actions that you must do either before proceeding, or after finishing. Once

Re: APPLY RSU Question

2012-01-05 Thread Gerry Tracey
Hi Sergio, I received the RSU cartridge here from IBM , and for the first time, need execute this. Here, is ZOS 1.12. Can someone, give the way for do this ? //SMPEEXEC PGM=GIMSMP,REGION=6144K //SMPCSI DD DSN=.GLOBAL.CSI,DISP=SHR

Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS

2012-01-05 Thread Charles Mills
Thanks much, Barbara. Follow-ups in-line. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Barbara Nitz Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 9:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS

RES: APPLY RSU Question

2012-01-05 Thread Sérgio Lima Costa
Hello, Sorry about my bad experience, but, if I run this job that you send, the RECEIVE command Will modify something here ? Like a library ? If Yes, We need made a backup before, correct ? Thanks again. -Mensagem original- De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: DFHSM QUESTION : Allocation/migration Threshold

2012-01-05 Thread willie bunter
I should have mentioned that there is no ML0/ML1 migration in this pool as well.  PSM is only being run.  I understand that this is not a good thing but the client insists upon having NO migration of the dsns from this pool this woould explain why the Threshold is low.  Would adjusting the

Re: APPLY RSU Question

2012-01-05 Thread Hal Merritt
Technically, no. A receive just loads the updates. The APPLY CHECK also does not change anything. But that does not matter. You shouldn't be running on a live system and shouldn't be pointing to live datasets. The APPLY does change things. Yes, backups are a very good idea. Also, you'll

Re: APPLY RSU Question

2012-01-05 Thread Gerry Tracey
Hi Sergio, Yes you will be updating libraries, especially when you do the subsequent APPLY. It is always prudent to backup your system before you make changes. Sorry about my bad experience, but, if I run this job that you send, the RECEIVE command Will modify something here ? Like a library ?

Re: APPLY RSU Question

2012-01-05 Thread McKown, John
The RECEIVE updates SMP/E datasets, and may create some new ones. But it does not update any executables. It basically copies information from the tape into disk datasets which contain only data, not running programs. But that is a very good point. Before I do any SMP/E work, I do volume level

Re: dynamic STEPLIB

2012-01-05 Thread John Szura
Sorry for the delay. Just joined this list. Tone Software provides a dynamic STEPLIB product called Dynastep that will allow a different STEPLIB concatenation for EACH ISPF screen and it is a real TASKLIB so it will work for LOAD, ATTACH, LINK and XCTL as well as ISPF. The Tone website is

Re: DFHSM QUESTION : Allocation/migration Threshold

2012-01-05 Thread Staller, Allan
NO snip I should have mentioned that there is no ML0/ML1 migration in this pool as well.  PSM is only being run.  I understand that this is not a good thing but the client insists upon having NO migration of the dsns from this pool this woould explain why the Threshold is low.  Would

Re: DFHSM QUESTION : Allocation/migration Threshold

2012-01-05 Thread Hervey Martinez
Well, if there is no migration then adjusting the thresholds will not get you much. The only space that will be released will be from those files that are over-allocated or expired. In this case, then you have to look at the files to make sure that you have no un-cataloged files, these will

Re: 21st Century Migrates Mainframe with Clerity

2012-01-05 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 10:31:18 -0500, Anne Lynn Wheeler wrote: Intel Core i7 at 177,730 MIPs/sec http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instructions_per_second That's a six core processor running at a 3.3 GHz clock rate. That translates to each core completing about 9 instructions per clock cycle. I am

Re: z/OS version of NetCat or native JCL support

2012-01-05 Thread Mike Wood
Gerard, maybe something here may help . http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/features/unix/ported/ See ported tools and Tools and toys . Mike Wood -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Re: 21st Century Migrates Mainframe with Clerity

2012-01-05 Thread zMan
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Tom Marchant m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com wrote: On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 10:31:18 -0500, Anne Lynn Wheeler wrote: Intel Core i7 at 177,730 MIPs/sec http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instructions_per_second That's a six core processor running at a 3.3 GHz clock rate.  That

Re: 21st Century Migrates Mainframe with Clerity

2012-01-05 Thread R.S.
On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 10:31:18 -0500, Anne Lynn Wheeler wrote: Intel Core i7 at 177,730 MIPs/sec http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instructions_per_second MIPs/sec ??? Wll... Two errors in one statement 1. MIPS - this is singular! It is Million Instructions Per Second. So MIPS is NOT plural of

Looking for a Utility to Re-Catalog Only the x Most Current GDG Generations

2012-01-05 Thread Michael Egle
We have an application that has recently been sunset, but we need to keep some of the most recent data files that were created by that application. Over the years that application has generated hundreds, if not thousands of GDG files, some on DASD, some on Tape. What we would like to do is to

Re: 21st Century Migrates Mainframe with Clerity

2012-01-05 Thread Denis Gäbler
Hi Tom, if you click on the link it shows the following: Up to 8 physical cores or 16 logical cores through Hyper-threading The old Hyperthreading implementation was not really two logical cores per physical core (some things were shared such as the floating point unit), but Intel changed

Re: Looking for a Utility to Re-Catalog Only the x Most Current GDG Generations

2012-01-05 Thread Herring, Bobby
If the GDG base is defined as scratch and you modify the GDG limit to x, everything greater than x gets scratched. Or at least, that's how we have done this in the past. Bob Herring Texas Farm Bureau Insurance Companies Waco, TX WWW.TXFB-INS.COM CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The foregoing

Re: Looking for a Utility to Re-Catalog Only the x Most Current GDG Generations

2012-01-05 Thread Hervey Martinez
I don't know of a utility to do this but what you can do is get a list of all GDG bases in question and alter the limit to '1'; the system will delete all but the newest one. You may want to this in batch otherwise, your TSO session will be locked until the task completes. Hervey

Re: Looking for a Utility to Re-Catalog Only the x Most Current GDG Generations

2012-01-05 Thread McKown, John
No problem! For instance. You have a GDG which currently has 100 entries in it. You only want to keep the most current 10. How to do this? //IDCAMS EXEC PGM=IDCAMS //SYSPRINT DD SYOUT=* //SYSIN DD * ALTER SOME.GDGBASE.NAME LIMIT(10) /* You're done! All the older generations will be rolled off

PDSLOAD problem with CBT Tape Version 483 (and previous)

2012-01-05 Thread Sam Golob
Hi Folks, This was a SMALL problem, but significant nevertheless. PDSLOAD, the program to restore pds members from the tape archive, into real pds'es, has member validity check code in it. In other words, PDSLOAD will not restore a member from sequential IEBUPDTE-like format if it

Re: APPLY RSU Question

2012-01-05 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
Every maintenance tape I receive from IBM has always had a small document which includes sample JCL and a description of the files on the tape. Did you not get one? If not, you should be able to request one based on the order number printed on the external tape label. -Original

Re: How to find a PDS member

2012-01-05 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
If you really have no idea what the HLQ is, you can just use 3.4 with the 29 simplest, A*, B*, ..., Z*, @*, #*, $*. Not sophisticated and only works if the dataset is catalogued. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of

Re: APPLY RSU Question

2012-01-05 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Sergio, You've gotten several good replies. I'm curious. Do you have any SMP/E experience? From the question, and one of your answers, I'd guess that you don't. If no one where you work has SMP/E experience, I'd suggest getting a consultant to do this. Most systems programmers learn by

Re: 21st Century Migrates Mainframe with Clerity

2012-01-05 Thread Shane
On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 10:31:18 -0500 Anne Lynn Wheeler wrote: Intel Core i7 at 177,730 MIPs/sec http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instructions_per_second or almost 180BIPs/sec ... which makes i7 equivalent of more than three z196?? Explains why my laptop always feels so damn heavy. Shane ...

Re: 21st Century Migrates Mainframe with Clerity

2012-01-05 Thread Graham Harris
Intel Core i7 at 177,730 MIPs/sec http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instructions_per_second or almost 180BIPs/sec ... which makes i7 equivalent of more than three z196?? Interesting to read the cited reference against the claimed 180BIPS/sec (/sec ??!!) Synthetic Benchmarks Synthetic

ACF2/RACF User Appliation Logical Access

2012-01-05 Thread Henke, George
Does anyone know how ACF2 validates a users access to specific applications? Recently we tried to migrate from ACF2 to RACF and were forced to fallback because ACF2 was somehow *wildcarding* a user's access to applications whereas RACF was iterating through a list of applications. The

Re: 21st Century Migrates Mainframe with Clerity

2012-01-05 Thread Sam Siegel
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Graham Harris harris...@gmail.com wrote: Intel Core i7 at 177,730 MIPs/sec http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instructions_per_second or almost 180BIPs/sec ... which makes i7 equivalent of more than three z196?? Interesting to read the cited reference

Re: 21st Century Migrates Mainframe with Clerity

2012-01-05 Thread Chris Craddock
On Jan 5, 2012, at 5:48 PM, Graham Harris harris...@gmail.com wrote: Intel Core i7 at 177,730 MIPs/sec http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instructions_per_second or almost 180BIPs/sec ... which makes i7 equivalent of more than three z196?? Interesting to read the cited reference against the

Identifying SOA Workloads for zIIP zAAP Offload

2012-01-05 Thread Henke, George
Does anyone know how best to identify Service Oriented Architecture (SOA) workloads (XML) that are processing on the MF using GPPs. Being eligible for zIIP zAAP, they are good candidates for offloading. I just don't know a good way to identify them on an existing mainframe. Maybe SMF, RMF,

Re: 21st Century Migrates Mainframe with Clerity

2012-01-05 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#20 21st Century Migrates Mainframe with Clerity other measures TPC-C: http://www.tpc.org/tpcc/results/tpcc_perf_results.asp ibm has six in the top ten ... power ... but also @#8#10 using (older) quad-core Xeon (but they are also the lowest price/tpmC)

Re: How to find a PDS member

2012-01-05 Thread Graham Hobbs
I did, bit laborious, but just poking around I saw HLQ's that started to mean something. Plus the list gave me 'srchfor' and 'member' - pearls of wisdom. And for an oldtime app developer, if it aint catalogued it dont exist. - Original Message - From: Schwarz, Barry A

Re: Identifying SOA Workloads for zIIP zAAP Offload

2012-01-05 Thread Graham Harris
RMF TYPE72's will give a good indication of what service classes/report classes contain zAAP zIIP eligible workloads. What you should however be aware of, is that some vendor code does not necessarily create enclaves (which are often [but not always] used as the container bestowing the zIIP/zAAP

Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS

2012-01-05 Thread Barbara Nitz
I'm puzzled. There is only one BPXOINIT per system. BPXOINIT is started by STC OMVS during initialization and becomes PID=1 of the UNIX system. I would not consider this AS to be idle, since for me (in this context) the term idle relates to an initiator AS that is waiting for work. You know how

Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS

2012-01-05 Thread Barbara Nitz
So, is it true that for SMFPRMxx SUBSYS(xxx,(... the only useful xxx are the five or six types listed above? I say useful rather than valid because I don't mean that SMF would necessarily generate an error for SUBSYS(FOO( -- it might, I just don't care at this moment -- but it would not be

Re: Was: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS - How does Subsys of SILO work?

2012-01-05 Thread Barbara Nitz
Just to add my speculations to this, too: For some reason they have excluded SMF records with that subsys. From the other posts, it is a user-defined SMF type number. The reason for exclusion is probably just that these types didn't exist when the TYPE statement was written in SMFPRM. Are

Re: How to find a PDS member

2012-01-05 Thread Paul Strauss
Graham, I've often had to go into companies being given a TSO ID and knowing nothing else about the site. One of my first steps would be to ask one of the Storage group people to run a DCOLLECT job (DFSMS Data Collection Facility) to list all datasets on all DASD on the system and put the output