Re: Authorized functions

2012-02-20 Thread Mike Wood
Correct, although I'm not sure whether TSO/E supports setting REXX variables from an authorized program. You can set rexx variables from an authorized TSO command. For example, the rmm tso commands all do that. However, one of the difficulties we had was when those commands were issued from a

Re: Batch process VS Started task

2012-02-20 Thread Itschak Mugzach
I would divide the problem into two: 1. how to make the file be transactional. to do this, you can use MQ as the mechanism to write into a file. 2. where to fire the transaction. You can write the message into a queue managed by CICS and LINK to the application program (not START TRAN that will

Re: If somebody knows this:SysBinLog ?

2012-02-20 Thread Michael Klaeschen
sysbinlog was an SQL table created by StuxNET worm/virus/malicious code. Part of the virus code was stored in that table. There is an IBM document from 2010 available: An inside look at Stuxnet. Cheers Michael Von:Miklos Szigetvari miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com An:

Re: O/T but curious (Re: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query) )

2012-02-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 18:11:13 -0600, Joel C. Ewing wrote: Under Windows, a directory is closer functionally to the MVS/DOS concept of a VTOC, as each volume has its own directory and you have to somehow know which volume to consult -- although admittedly in a windows system the number of volumes

Re: Batch process VS Started task

2012-02-20 Thread Jan MOEYERSONS
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 15:25:32 -0600, Magen Margalit syste...@gmail.com wrote: One idea that came up is to convert the process to a self developed STC which will be triggered by a record on an MQ queue and will run as STC all the batch process programs I think MQ is indeed a very good way to

Re: If somebody knows this:SysBinLog ?

2012-02-20 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi Thank you, Hope not so dangerous, they refer I think something like JOBLOG or SYSLOG or JESMSGLG , but they are using this phrase. We will ask On 2/20/2012 10:08 AM, Michael Klaeschen wrote: sysbinlog was an SQL table created by StuxNET worm/virus/malicious code. Part of the virus code

Re: If somebody knows this:SysBinLog ?

2012-02-20 Thread Jim McAlpine
Do you have a file called /Sys/Bin/Log by any chance ? Jim McAlpine On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Miklos Szigetvari miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com wrote: Hi Thank you, Hope not so dangerous, they refer I think something like JOBLOG or SYSLOG or JESMSGLG , but they are using this

Re: O/T but curious (Re: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query) )

2012-02-20 Thread John McKown
On Mon, 2012-02-20 at 08:42 +0100, R.S. wrote: snip What is cool is that SMS storage group. Usually users do not see the volumes, they see dasd space. In case of shortage you can simply add some volumes to the group. You can even buy new box and simply add it to the group. And that's really

Re: O/T but curious (Re: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query) )

2012-02-20 Thread Mike Schwab
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 1:58 AM, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.com wrote: R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote in message news:4f41f979.3010...@bremultibank.com.pl... deleted What is cool is that SMS storage group. Usually users do not see the volumes, they see dasd space. In

Re: O/T but curious (Re: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query) )

2012-02-20 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com wrote in message news:cajtoo5_brjh+-ojaqd9jq17cojfbbjuzddhi35yuk33zj_n...@mail.gmail.com ... On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 1:58 AM, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.com wrote: R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote in message

Re: 5 Byte Device Addresses?

2012-02-20 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
glen herrmannsfeldt g...@ugcs.caltech.edu writes: It would seem less likely that they would use the exact same replacement algorithm, but could eventually lock, anyway. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#98 5 Byte Device Addresses? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#100 5 Byte

Linux LVM vs z/OS SMS Storage Group

2012-02-20 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 2/20/2012 5:34 AM, John McKown wrote: On Mon, 2012-02-20 at 08:42 +0100, R.S. wrote: snip What is cool is that SMS storage group. Usually users do not see the volumes, they see dasd space. In case of shortage you can simply add some volumes to the group. You can even buy new box and simply

Re: Batch process VS Started task

2012-02-20 Thread Eduardo Lima
IMHO, doing a STC won’t make your processing Online. STC is just a STC - making your process running under a STC won’t turn it online. If you plan to process the records one by one, I would advice to use a transaction system, such as CICS or IMS. Using a STC like you described will just turn your

was: Abend S0C4 in an internal sort

2012-02-20 Thread Staffan Tylen
I wish to continue this thread as it's related. I'm now running my program with internal calls to DFSORT and it works fine except for one issue that I have, namely that I get a lot of job log messages generated as a result of dynamic allocation of VIO sortwork files. DFSORT is invoked 1000's of

Re: O/T but curious (Re: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query) )

2012-02-20 Thread Mark Post
On 2/20/2012 at 08:34 AM, John McKown joa...@swbell.net wrote: If the filesystem runs out of space, and you used the proper type of filesystem (there are many), you simply expand the size of the logical volume into unused space in the group. You then resize the filesystem. If you used ext4

Re: O/T but curious (Re: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query) )

2012-02-20 Thread McKown, John
Nope. The DSNs on the volumes will stay on the volumes, and be fully accessable. If they need to be extended onto a new volume, still no problem. If they are every migrated recalled, they will go to other volumes in the old storage group. Assuming nothing has been done to affect that. Unless,

Re: was: Abend S0C4 in an internal sort

2012-02-20 Thread John Gilmore
There may well be a facility for suppressing unwanted DFSORT messages, particularly informational ones. If there is, FY will provide you and the rest of us with information about it here (unless perchance he is in Timbuktu today). John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA

Re: was: Abend S0C4 in an internal sort

2012-02-20 Thread Richard L Peurifoy
On 2/20/2012 12:32 PM, John Gilmore wrote: There may well be a facility for suppressing unwanted DFSORT messages, particularly informational ones. If there is, FY will provide you and the rest of us with information about it here (unless perchance he is in Timbuktu today). I don't think this

Re: Avoiding DFSORT dynamic allocatoin, was: Abend S0C4 in an internal sort

2012-02-20 Thread David Betten
I can't give specific recommendations without knowing more about these sorts being executed and the environment. But perhaps I can offer a little info that will be useful. The reason the JCL SORTWKxx data sets get reallocated to SORTDKxx is because VIO=NO is in effect. This is the installation

Re: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)

2012-02-20 Thread Scott Ford
John, You. Hit the nail on the head Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Feb 19, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Fred Hoffman fhoff...@tad.org wrote: Amen John!! From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of John

Re: O/T but curious (Re: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query) )

2012-02-20 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Hey John, That quite a new and surprising approach! My point was to (indeed) empty several volumes, reformat/relabel them (to predefined volumes in the new SG) and therewith add them to a new SG, where I need the extra space. With your way of handling, I can remove the volumes from the old SG,

Re: O/T but curious (Re: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query) )

2012-02-20 Thread McKown, John
I used to do that on rare occasion. I then got told off by management. They associated the volser to the storage group and did their reporting based on it. So my mixing things up messed up their reports. I'm not allowed to do that any more. We have offline volumes with a specific starting

Re: Batch process VS Started task

2012-02-20 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 19, 2012, at 5:27 PM, Joel C. Ewing wrote: The described record arrival rate averages at just under 58 records per second. Somehow I don't think XBM was designed with that high of transaction arrival rate in mind, processing each record as a separate transaction. I would think

Do what to get C strftime %z to work?

2012-02-20 Thread Charles Mills
I am reading the FM and I am lost in a sea of environment variables and POSIX and gosh knows what. If I would like the strftime() format character %z to return -0500 or + or whatever, what do I have to do? I know the system knows what time zone it is in, because for a given timeb,

Re: Do what to get C strftime %z to work?

2012-02-20 Thread Charles Mills
Should have said that the environment is z/OS batch (started task, actually). Charles -Original Message- From: Charles Mills [mailto:charl...@mcn.org] Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 3:01 PM To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Do what to get C strftime %z to work? I am reading

Re: Batch process VS Started task

2012-02-20 Thread John Gilmore
Both CICS and IMS have (rather different) facilities for mini-batching, triggering FIFO processing of all of them after an waiting-transactions queue reaches a specified length L 0. This processing threshold L can be varied without making other changes, and doing so provides a mechanism for

Re: Avoiding DFSORT dynamic allocatoin, was: Abend S0C4 in an internal sort

2012-02-20 Thread Ulrich Krueger
... DFSORT is invoked 1000's of times by the program ... Once upon a time, at a previous job, I ran into a similar situation. The job ran for hours and hours. Analysis showed that SORT was invoked to sort 1 record (yes, that's ONE record!) most of the time and between 2 and about 100 records the

Re: O/T but curious (Re: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query) )

2012-02-20 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4f418fa1.4040...@acm.org, on 02/19/2012 at 06:11 PM, Joel C. Ewing jcew...@acm.org said: Under Windows, a directory is closer functionally to the MVS/DOS concept of a VTOC, as each volume has its own directory ITYM each volume has its own root directory; a typical DOS or 'doze volume has

Re: 5 Byte Device Addresses?

2012-02-20 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In af2ee1ca5139d947b1ccdbf226607e8e02b9d...@tad03.tad.org, on 02/19/2012 at 07:36 PM, Fred Hoffman fhoff...@tad.org said: I thought os/vs1 was MFT with virtual storage. That doesn't conflict with what anybody wrote in this thread, although it is an oversimplification. -- Shmuel

Re: Authorized functions

2012-02-20 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In m3obsuwa9v@garlic.com, on 02/19/2012 at 08:42 PM, Anne Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com said: folklore is that *IX (and numerous *IX work-alikes) came from simplification of MULTICS. That's why I spell it EUnix, but they're really fundamentally different. Multics was built around the

Re: O/T but curious (Re: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query) )

2012-02-20 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1329705063.29591.54.ca...@mckown5.johnmckown.net, on 02/19/2012 at 08:31 PM, John McKown joa...@swbell.net said: Just to play the Devil's advocate for a bit, it depends on how you define dataset name. I agree, in Linux (and as a stretch, Windows), if you specify the entire file path,

Re: Authorized functions

2012-02-20 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 0fcef8d8-ed56-4e67-97b4-34a32d5b6...@yahoo.com, on 02/19/2012 at 11:05 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said: Yep I agree with both of you, I learned assembler first I learned assembler[1] first, but that didn't prevent me from picking up new languages freely. I don't feel any