Hi
On 4/11/2012 11:07 PM, Uriel Carrasquilla wrote:
Hi Miklos.
Interesting situation with the HSM exits.
Can you view the HSM ML2 files under USS using vi or more?
I don't touch the content, so the data remain in ML1 compressed format
I guess it would be not so hard to decompress somehow, but
We have a standard LPA module which is widely used. It's been changed quite
a few times recently. Here's the output of an LPA query utility:
SDSF OUTPUT DISPLAY T7516FBD JOB35267
COMMAND INPUT ===
* TOP
CSVLPAQ Parameter: QUERY SISX100
LPA query for SISX100
Ditto! Good work Kirk.
On 12/04/2012, at 1:13 AM, Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com wrote:
[Top posting]
Terri - congratulations! Big process but you persevered.
Kirk - I'd like to commend you for the masterly way you
led Terri through the process. One of the best
Dear listers,
as the subject , a couple of questions to be clarified .
from z10+ , with z/OS V1.11+
1) I know z/OS FTP client support SSL/TLS , But no idea whether the
transferred data encrypted via HW crypto (CPACF) ?
2) If yes , what kind of key , symemtric key ? asymmestric key ?
3) is it
On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 17:14:43 +0200, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote:
Documentation in Bookreader format will no longer be available!
That's horrible!
Indeed, it is.
Should we not make it a requirement (Share or otherwise) to have documentation
in Bookreader format?
Cheers,
Jantje.
On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 13:41:48 +, Uriel Carrasquilla
uriel.carrasqui...@mail.mcgill.ca wrote:
My company is in the process of sun setting our MF.
Sad...
We have about 40 TBytes of data under HSM control.
I have been tasked with the responsibility to pull the data and put it under a
1) If CPACF is available, I believe it will be used
2) IIRC, TLS uses symmetric key
3) Encryption generally incurs fairly significant overhead. IIRC, TCPIP
will offload this work to a zIIP if available.
HTH,
snip
as the subject , a couple of questions to be clarified .
from z10+ , with z/OS
I am unsure of how many people are out there on the list using EMC DLM
for tape. But EMC is being a bit less than helpful in answering the
question.
I want to create a snapshot of the current production DLM tapes for
use in disaster recovery testing. Has anyone else done this?
Thanks,
Rob
On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 07:14:28 -0500, Mary Anne Matyaz maryanne4...@gmail.com
wrote:
There's also some info about secure FTP:
In the fourth quarter of 2012, IBM plans to make secure delivery via FTP using
Secure Sockets Layer (FTPS) an option for Internet delivery of ServerPac,
CBPDO, SystemPac®,
Just take the time to read thru Lin Overby's SHARE presentation on
TCPIP and Cryptography. It is excellent.
http://mobile.share.org/client_files/SHARE_in__Seattle/S3346LO213235.pdf
And it will answer all of your questions.
Rob Schramm
Senior Systems Consultant
Imperium Group
On Thu, Apr 12,
Bookreader? Really??
Guys, there's this thing they call the Internet, where you can get good
documentation from what IBM calls their website. ... PDF and Info Center (I
much prefer the former, frankly)... fully searchable...
--Phil Sevetson, recovering Bookmanager addict
-Original
Bookreader? Really??
Like a number of other people, I prefer PDF when printing and Bookmanager when
searching. The elimination of Bookmanager is unfortunate but not surprising.
Bob Shannon
Rocket Software
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I will fight for BOO format.
Where to demonstrate? Any riot?
Really outraged
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W dniu 2012-04-12 16:05, Sevetson, Phil pisze:
Bookreader? Really??
Guys, there's this thing they call the Internet, where you can get good documentation
from what IBM calls
Yeah. Sorry, that was kind of snide of me. Apologies to all.
That said, the Info Center is really pretty good about searches. It does take
some getting used to but not as much as Bookmanager did when I first used that.
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
Hi
We try to modernize our code here, with relative instructions, long
displacements , immediate s etc etc
What about the control program ?
Just got some REXX IRXINIT dumps, and seems to me the code is not very
modern.
I like PDFs on my desktop for offline reading. I like BookManager books for
online reading. I simply don't like the InfoCenter version of the
documentation. I guess because I've never figured out how to simply read a
manual page after page.
John McKown
Systems Engineer IV
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Try the Occupy IBM Manuals organization! grin
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Occupy IBM Manuals organization... very good John.
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At least I would like the BOOKFIND command with its cursor sensitive arguments
to keep working.
Do you really need the BOO format? Will a PDF reader with good searchable index
and BOOKFIND PDF support do too?
Kees.
R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote in message
Who is gonne pay for just modernizing without any other benefits?
Kees.
Miklos Szigetvari miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com wrote in
message news:4f86e3b1.1020...@isis-papyrus.com...
Hi
We try to modernize our code here, with relative instructions, long
displacements , immediate s
and seems to me the code is not very modern
First, there are structures in the BCP code that are 40 years old. They haven't
changed and are extremely difficult to change.
Second, z/OS 1.13 will IPL on a z900/z800. This means the BCP can only use
instructions supported by those processors.
Sevetson, Phil wrote:
Bookreader? Really??
Guys, there's this thing they call the Internet, where you can get good
documentation from what IBM calls their website. ... PDF and Info Center (I
much prefer the former, frankly)... fully searchable...
How do you download all those bookshelves and
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 09:23:05 -0400, Rob Schramm rob.schr...@gmail.com wrote:
I am unsure of how many people are out there on the list using EMC DLM
for tape. But EMC is being a bit less than helpful in answering the
question.
I want to create a snapshot of the current production DLM tapes for
Miklos Szigetvari wrote:
Hi
We try to modernize our code here, with relative instructions, long
displacements , immediate s etc etc
What about the control program ?
Just got some REXX IRXINIT dumps, and seems to me the code is not very
modern.
snip
If you look at the past several releases'
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:08:07 +, Bob Shannon bshan...@rocketsoftware.com
wrote:
Bookreader? Really??
Like a number of other people, I prefer PDF when printing and Bookmanager when
searching. The elimination of Bookmanager is unfortunate but not surprising.
Ditto. I keep bookmanager
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 09:35:30 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote:
How do you download all those bookshelves and indexes in one swift swoop like
I do with 'Soft Copy Librarian'? And then search here on your local PC or
shared network folder?
I use SoftCopy
In a client where I work a few years ago, we send the pdf manuals received
for each product version or z/OS to USS under html and access via web to
our hosting LPAR.
2012/4/12 Mark Zelden m...@mzelden.com
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:08:07 +, Bob Shannon
bshan...@rocketsoftware.com wrote:
Hi
I appreciate your answer, and understand your point
I have just seen the REXX (System REXX etc ? ) IRXINIT dump, and looked
into the SYS1.SHASSRC.
On 4/12/2012 4:49 PM, John Eells wrote:
Miklos Szigetvari wrote:
Hi
We try to modernize our code here, with relative instructions, long
First thing to wonder about is: Has IBM upgraded the PL/AS(current name?)
compiler to emit Relative and Immediate instructions?. Most of the BCP is
supposedly written in PL/AS, not HLASM. Second, for those modules which are
written in HLASM, is it cost effective to IBM to systematically update
We pdf files on a Windows share. The only problem with this is in a D.R.
situation, because that share is deemed non critical and not restored during
a test. Which is why I need BookManager. At our DR provider, the PC's used to
connect to z/OS are not Internet capable. And, as I've said, our
W dniu 2012-04-12 12:23, Tsai Laurence pisze:
Dear listers,
as the subject , a couple of questions to be clarified .
from z10+ , with z/OS V1.11+
1) I know z/OS FTP client support SSL/TLS , But no idea whether the
transferred data encrypted via HW crypto (CPACF) ?
2) If yes , what kind of key
This is very good news.
Curious. How so?
Art, we don't need to go through explaining why we're not using FTP, getting a
waiver for using it, etc with the isso's and auditors, every time our lpars are
scanned.
MA
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We put available for all users and define menus with the provider logo to
access the diferent product documentation, I think also it's a good idea.
2012/4/12 McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com
We pdf files on a Windows share. The only problem with this is in a D.R.
situation, because
Frank,
The LINKAGE SECTION items and the 2 statements
SET A-POINTER TO ADDRESS OF INPUT-LENGTH
IF BIN-WORD 0 THEN the high-bit is ON
should be coded in the CALLED SUBROUTINE [in your case print-string] to
determine what was passed by the CALLER.
Sorry, if this was not obvious from the
W dniu 2012-04-12 17:20, McKown, John pisze:
We pdf files on a Windows share. The only problem with this is in a
D.R. situation, because that share is deemed non critical and not
restored during a test. Which is why I need BookManager. At our DR
provider, the PC's used to connect to z/OS are not
AFAIK, the PL/X compiler shares a back-end with the other code
optimizers, so should produce excellent code. The compiler team is in
Toronto and I was lucky enough to talk to a few at Share in Orlando.
As it stands z/OS needs to run on machines as old as a z/800. So the
architecture level
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 10:14:34 -0500, McKown, John wrote:
Has IBM upgraded the PL/AS(current name?) compiler to emit
Relative and Immediate instructions?.
Probably, since the RI facility was required for OS/390 2.10.
The new instructions may (or may not) be less resource
efficient that the
Bob,
What about folks not running Z9 for z/os 2.1 ?
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On Apr 12, 2012, at 10:26 AM, Bob Shannon bshan...@rocketsoftware.com wrote:
and seems to me the code is not very modern
First, there are structures in the BCP
I have a started task that kept failing. It actually used all the available
job numbers up. I need to purge all of the output from this job, but keep
getting error messages.
Here is one of the commands I use:
$P S'OSNMPD',OUTPUT,ALL
$HASP003 RC=(78),P S'OSNMPD' -
Now that you mention it, I remember that the C/C++ compiler has a architecture
option to control the instructions generated. I should have known that the PL/X
compiler would too. I didn't know that they both share the same back-end. I
wish that the COBOL compiler did. I am constantly amazed at
What about folks not running Z9 for z/os 2.1 ?
2.1 requires an architectural level set.
If you are running a z9 or higher (i.e., z10, z196 or z114), then you will be
fine.
If you are running a processor prior to a z9 (i.e., z800/z900, z890/z990) then
you need a new processor if you want to
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
[mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Tom Marchant
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 11:16 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Modernizing the BCP code ?
snip/
Oh, and one other reason to use at least one Branch
On 13/04/2012 12:45 AM, McKown, John wrote:
Now that you mention it, I remember that the C/C++ compiler has a architecture
option to control the instructions generated. I should have known that the PL/X
compiler would too. I didn't know that they both share the same back-end. I
wish that the
Apparently pre-z9 processors will not be able to IPL z/OS version 2 at all. I
would guess a hard wait at IPL/NIP time.
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On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 16:25:27 +0200, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM wrote:
At least I would like the BOOKFIND command with its cursor sensitive arguments
to keep working.
Do you really need the BOO format? Will a PDF reader with good searchable
index and BOOKFIND PDF support do too?
Too much bandwidth.
Since I rarely want the output from STCs, I just do a $PS1-99 and be done
with it. If I do need the output, then I don't use a started task, but a
started job. That way, I can code the JOB card and use the MSGCLASS=x in
order to direct the output to our sysout archive software.
--
John
I would adore that! We are a 95%+ COBOL shop, with EasyTrieve next and very
little HLASM. So a really good optimizer would help reduce our MSU usage. Which
would reduce our software bill. And might even allow us to decrease our Group
Capacity limit, which would also help reduce our software
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 10:49:08 -0400, John Eells wrote:
Miklos Szigetvari wrote:
Just got some REXX IRXINIT dumps, and seems to me the code is not very
modern.
But backwater code that lives far away from any
frequently-traveled mainstream code path is an unlikely optimization target.
I'e
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 10:01:57 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote:
I use SoftCopy librarian to download / manage PDF bookshelves (per my last
post - for example, Tivoli since
bookmanager format is not available).
Is it ecumenical, or does it require a particular OS?
-- gil
On Thu, 2012-04-12 at 12:49 -0400, David Crayford wrote:
Also at Share I heard that COBOL will indeed share the same back-end and
have all the nice optimizations in future releases of z/OS. They said
that they are going to share the Java optimizer technology
That would surprise me, since
On Thu, 2012-04-12 at 12:45 -0400, McKown, John wrote:
I am constantly amazed at the amount of code generate by a simpe:
ADD +1 TO WS-INTEGER.
when WS-INTEGER is defined as PIC S9(9) BINARY
Try defining it as COMP-5 (or compile with TRUNC(BIN)) and see if that
improves the generated code?
W dniu 2012-04-12 18:52, McKown, John pisze:
Apparently pre-z9 processors will not be able to IPL z/OS version 2
at all. I would guess a hard wait at IPL/NIP time.
I'm curious: how much politics influenced on that decision?
As far as I know, z9 wasn't so revolutionary generation.
A big
IBM has drunk the Kool-Aid. It is Windows only. Curiously, it is mainly Java,
with some part of it being Windows. I had been working on a Java only
work-alike, but just quit one day due to getting busy. And I've never gotten
back to it.
--
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Systems Engineer IV
IT
Administrative
So, I suspect it was political decision whether to support z/990 and z9.
I think supporting the older processors this long was a marketing decision.
Sooner or later they had to drop off and now they have. zVM V6 requires a z10
processor or higher, so it's somewhat surprising that z9s are still
It was. Program 'callee' in my example below. (My example has three programs;
'callopt' calls 'callee'. 'callee' should call 'print-string' only for parms
that were passed from program 'callopt'. I did not show the code for
'print-string', as it is not being passed a variable number of
According to Tom Ross (of IBM COBOL development) at SHARE last year, they are
working on migrating the back end to the same one that PL/I uses. (And I am
assuming the same one some of the other languages also use.)
No idea if that would fix COBOL arithmetic.
Frank
- Original Message
I actually checked that. The code is slightly different, but I don't see that
it's much better.
01 FULLWORD-SORTOF PIC S9(9) BINARY VALUE +9.
09 ADD 100 TO FULLWORD-SORTOF
000354 GN=16
W dniu 2012-04-12 19:31, Bob Shannon pisze:
So, I suspect it was political decision whether to support z/990
and z9.
I think supporting the older processors this long was a marketing
decision. Sooner or later they had to drop off and now they have. zVM
V6 requires a z10 processor or higher, so
Yes, but z/VM 5.4 is still supported and marketed.
zVM 5.4 was withdrawn from marketing December 12, 2011. It goes out of service
September 20, 2013.
Bob Shannon
Rocket Software
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Well, I hadn't done this comparison in quite a few years. Perhaps as long ago
as with VS COBOL II. I just redid it with Enterprise COBOL 3.4.1. Either I
misremembered my previous test results, but now the code sequence for
TRUNC(BIN) and TRUNC(OPT) with OPT(FULL) is not too bad. The difference
John - Thanks. It wasn't exactly what I was looking for, but it worked a lot
better than putting a P in front of everything in SDSF. I didn't want to purge
everything, but I was able to purge large groups at a time, so it didn't take
too long. I don't know why I didn't think of that myself.
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 19:25:34 +0200, R.S. wrote:
As far as I know, z9 wasn't so revolutionary generation.
z9 introduced these facilities:
DAT-enhancement facility 2
ETF2-enhancement facility
ETF3-enhancement facility
Extended-immediate facility
HFP-unnormalized-extensions facility
You can use a block command to affect a large number of sysouts in SDSF. On the
NP column, you put a // and then the desired action on the first job and
then page down to the last job and put in a // and press enter. And it will
look something like this in SDSF:
//p job001
Try something like this:
$P O Sx-x,JM=yourSTCname
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of
Eric Bielefeld
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 2:40 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: How to Purge Multiple Started Tasks
I wonder if this would work:
declare THEFUNCTION entry returns(fixed bin) options(nodescriptor,
linkage(system), fetchable);
result = THEFUNCTION(magic, parm1, parm2);
result = THEFUNCTION(magic, parm1, parm2, parm3, parm4);
Frank
- Original Message -
From: Phil Smith
I would guess that IBM knows who has z/OS licenses. And what hardware they are
on. And whether they try to stay current on z/OS software. So they likely did
analysis of how many z/OS v2 licenses would be acquired by machine type. And
how many they would likely lose if the customer would decide
I'm trying to understand how to use the catalog fields:
COMUDSIZ
UDATASIZ
COMPIND
VVRNFLGS
... in order to get an estimate of the uncompressed size of a compressed,
extended-format DSORG=PS dataset.
The documentation in Managing Catalogs is a little thin.
- is UDATASIZ the uncompressed size?
-
W dniu 2012-04-12 20:25, Bob Shannon pisze:
Yes, but z/VM 5.4 is still supported and marketed.
zVM 5.4 was withdrawn from marketing December 12, 2011. It goes out of service
September 20, 2013.
I knew I should check it again before sending ;-)
My fault.
BTW: Sept 2013 is not tomorrow.
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W dniu 2012-04-12 20:47, Tom Marchant pisze:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 19:25:34 +0200, R.S. wrote:
As far as I know, z9 wasn't so revolutionary generation.
z9 introduced these facilities:
• DAT-enhancement facility 2
• ETF2-enhancement facility
• ETF3-enhancement facility
• Extended-immediate
Most of the arrangements and information for the 2012 VM Workshop have been
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The workshop will be held at the University of Kentucky on Wednesday June 27 to
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The price is the same as last year: $100 per attendee -- the best bargain
Frank,
I just re-tested my suggestion and you are right, it DOES NOT work [not to
mention the wrong location for A-POINTER, as it should be in WORKING-STORAGE
rather than in LINKAGE]. This made me curious as I vaguely remember dealing
with a variable p-list in COBOL. It turns out I was
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 21:30:24 +0200, R.S. wrote:
W dniu 2012-04-12 20:47, Tom Marchant pisze:
z9 introduced these facilities:
...
So what? How does it compare to 50+ new instructions in z10?
A big change was introduced with z/990 and later with z10.
z20, yes. z990, not so much. And a big
That code sequence is what I remember. But I did my own, minor testing and my
results with OPT(FULL) and TRUNC(BIN) and TRUNC(OPT). And it basically was
LH/AH/STH or LA/AH/STH.
In the fullword case, all the SRDAs and extra instructions are done to detect
overflow. I guess don't know why they
Thanks.
Steve Comstock's method does work, in any case.
Frank
- Original Message -
From: Victor Gil victor@broadridge.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Cc:
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: PL/I with variable PLISTs (was: LE C calling HLASM)
Frank,
I just
Wow, I didn't figure there'd be that much difference between adding to a
halfword vs a fullword. Interesting.
Frank
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To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Cc:
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: Modernizing
Oh, so USSTAB means Unix Systems Services table. Wonder what that's used
for, mate?
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Ron Hawkins ronjhawk...@sbcglobal.netwrote:
Chris,
I took your advice and read this post, but then I took it to a higher
authority for validation. Yes, I googled acronym
W dniu 2012-04-12 22:44, Tom Marchant pisze:
[...]
Just to remain: z/990 introduced CSS concept,
60 LPARs, 1024 channels,
30 LPARs and 512 channels on the z990. CSS and
greater than 256 channels was quite a significant
architectural change, IMO
60 LPARs and 1024 channels. And SPANNED
I will be out of the office starting 12/04/2012 and will return on
16/04/2012.
For anything urgent contact the Mainframe Services support number, x79371
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According to Tom Ross (of IBM COBOL development) at SHARE last year, they are
working
on migrating the back end to the same one that PL/I uses. (And I am
assuming the same
one some of the other languages also use.)
No idea if that would fix COBOL arithmetic.
Frank
Frank,
That is close to
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