Comparing datasets

2012-05-24 Thread Zaromil Tisler
Is there z/OS (ISPF) tool that can check if all lines of dataset A are contained in dataset B? In other words, is there a tool that could check if dataset A is a subset of dataset B, where A and B are sets of records (lines)? I can accomplish it using COMPARE ISPF edit function or SuperC

Re: Rexx - calling assembler question

2012-05-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 3493325860710629.wa.paulgboulderaim@bama.ua.edu, on 05/21/2012 at 07:44 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: Well, then, a CMS-Rexx flavor, with a pointer and a length. No, that's not what CMS uses. You don't want to know. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT

Re: IBMLink outages in 2012

2012-05-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In d9a38e3a-ca51-4033-be46-9d37265ee...@comcast.net, on 05/21/2012 at 11:24 PM, Ed Gould edgould1...@comcast.net said: I vaguely remember an IBM product (INFO-MVS) which was (if memory serves me) was a single (??) reel 6250 tape sent monthly by IBM. INFO-MVS was another product in the same

Re: Early IPL problems

2012-05-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4fbadd3e.5050...@valley.net, on 05/21/2012 at 08:26 PM, Gerhard Postpischil gerh...@valley.net said: You also used this to reply to password requests for system data sets having all hex-zero passwords. I don't recall[1] having done so. If you can explain How I forgot, I'd like to try the

Re: XPLINK Modules in SCEERUN2

2012-05-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4fbba8e9.9030...@custserv.com, on 05/22/2012 at 10:55 AM, Mark Jacobs mark.jac...@custserv.com said: From the Ported Tools - OpenSSH Manual Ouch! * Put the Language Environment® run-time library SCEERUN2 in the LNKLST member of SYS1.PARMLIB. Does anybody still use that?

Re: IBM's first tape drive turns 60 (makes you feel old!)

2012-05-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In CAPD5F5qqQjHo2ntfWXUSP-GELMe=b1szP=4v5pm68-e1-1y...@mail.gmail.com, on 05/22/2012 at 10:22 AM, John Gilmore johnwgilmore0...@gmail.com said: One-inch tapes were once very common in IBM shops, Common? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: IBM's first tape drive turns 60 (makes you feel old!)

2012-05-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 985915eee6984740ae93f8495c624c6c21e3656...@jscpcwexmaa1.bsg.ad.adp.com, on 05/22/2012 at 09:03 AM, Farley, Peter x23353 peter.far...@broadridge.com said: I don't know about IBM, but there was a 2nd generation Philco computer system I know about it, but I've never met anybody that used one.

Re: IBM's first tape drive turns 60 (makes you feel old!)

2012-05-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4fbb73d4.9090...@bremultibank.com.pl, on 05/22/2012 at 01:09 PM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl said: BTW: I heard about 1-inch tapes. Is it true? Did such wide tapes exist? Yes. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: 24/7/365 appropriateness was Re: IBMLink outages in 2012

2012-05-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In fkjpr71k9aqo209gi143h9g9hnuq125...@4ax.com, on 05/23/2012 at 08:54 AM, Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca said: On a logical basis I agree with you but has the 24/7/365 shortcut for continuous availability become so pervasive that it is the shorthand way for saying it Shorthand? How

Re: 24/7/365 appropriateness was Re: IBMLink outages in 2012

2012-05-24 Thread zMan
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 6:18 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In fkjpr71k9aqo209gi143h9g9hnuq125...@4ax.com, on 05/23/2012 at 08:54 AM, Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca said: On a logical basis I agree with you but has the 24/7/365 shortcut for

Re: 24/7/365 appropriateness was Re: IBMLink outages in 2012

2012-05-24 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com wrote in message news:CAFO-8tqWyJKz+G7jJXvgooJ7QinzBAo=rw0+ywebrx8_jbv...@mail.gmail.com ... On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 6:18 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In fkjpr71k9aqo209gi143h9g9hnuq125...@4ax.com, on 05/23/2012 at 08:54

Re: Cartons of Punch Cards

2012-05-24 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com writes: As I understand it, years ago in foreign countries telephone capacity was limited and phones were expensive, thus many people did not have them. When cell phones came out, it represented a whole new infrastructure that exploded, and many people got connected that

humor: look at the logo these people made for IBM. It is cute

2012-05-24 Thread McKown, John
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/05/ibms-siri-ban-highlights-companies-privacy-trade-secret-challenges/ It's about IBM banning Siri due to how it works. But the IBM logo they created is very cute. John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151

SV: Brain drain: Where Cobol systems go from here

2012-05-24 Thread Thomas Berg
There will always exist the solution to pay good enough money that talented programmers can solve this problem. A good programmer/analyst is not hindered (long) by unknown coding language. The problem is companies that don't understand this. Regards, Thomas Berg

Re: 24/7/365 appropriateness was Re: IBMLink outages in 2012

2012-05-24 Thread Bill Fairchild
Read it again. He did say both shortcut and shorthand Bill Fairchild Programmer Rocket Software 408 Chamberlain Park Lane * Franklin, TN 37069-2526 * USA t: +1.617.614.4503 * e: bfairch...@rocketsoftware.com * w: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: Co-existance of z/OS and z/VM on same DASD farm

2012-05-24 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
p...@voltage.com (Phil Smith) writes: VM/XA MA begat VM/XA SF begat VM/XA SP, which eventually moved to Endicott, and became VM/ESA and then z/VM. The core of VM/XA was actually much better than VM/SP; as a developer I found it much easier to work with. re:

Re: Comparison of compiler generated code AD 1980(ish) v 2010(ish)

2012-05-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4fbd69b6.5080...@t-online.de, on 05/24/2012 at 12:50 AM, Bernd Oppolzer bernd.oppol...@t-online.de said: This limit is too high, in our opinion, because some tests showed, On what processor? I assume that IBM wants to optimize for a196 and later. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz,

Re: Brain drain: Where Cobol systems go from here

2012-05-24 Thread Roberts, John J
Now, folks want to assert that today's youngsters are too stupid to turn into COBOL programmers?  Well, dang it, sonny - the same thing was said about us back in the day - and see how that turned out. I don't think anyone is trying to claim that younger people can't learn COBOL. After all, I

IBM(r) z/OS(r) Management Facility (z/OSMF)

2012-05-24 Thread Dazzo, Matt
So what do you folks have to say about IBM(r) z/OS(r) Management Facility (z/OSMF)? We have zos1.13 up and running and considering configuring IBM(r) z/OS(r) Management Facility (z/OSMF). Looking to see find out how hard it is to configure and how useful it is? Or any other info you might find

Re: humor: look at the logo these people made for IBM. It is cute

2012-05-24 Thread zMan
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 8:41 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/05/ibms-siri-ban-highlights-companies-privacy-trade-secret-challenges/ It's about IBM banning Siri due to how it works. But the IBM logo they created is very cute. They

Re: IBM(r) z/OS(r) Management Facility (z/OSMF)

2012-05-24 Thread Tom Ambros
Do it. If you do any policy based networking you'll be happy you did. Incident packaging is nice, we don't use it a ton because we haven't seemed to have had too many incidents for a while but it does make it simpler to get all the diagnostics wrapped up with a bow. It looks like there's a

Re: humor: look at the logo these people made for IBM. It is cute

2012-05-24 Thread McKown, John
Oh, I'd never seen it before. Thanks for the correction. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality

Re: Comparing datasets

2012-05-24 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
It's not ISPF, but ICETOOL should be able to give you what you want. Look up the OCCUR operator. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Zaromil Tisler Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 2:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject:

Re: humor: look at the logo these people made for IBM. It is cute

2012-05-24 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
It's been around for a long time, but not with the microphone and not slash across the eye. That was the part I thought John was talking about. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of zMan Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 10:03

Re: IBM(r) z/OS(r) Management Facility (z/OSMF)

2012-05-24 Thread John Gilmore
On 5/24/12, Tom Ambros thomas_amb...@keybank.com wrote: Do it. If you do any policy based networking you'll be happy you did. Incident packaging is nice, we don't use it a ton because we haven't seemed to have had too many incidents for a while but it does make it simpler to get all the

Re: IBM(r) z/OS(r) Management Facility (z/OSMF)

2012-05-24 Thread Kirk Wolf
z/OS MF also includes a new web service API, the z/OS jobs REST interface - http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zosmf/vxrx/topic/com.ibm.zosmf.configguide.help.doc/IZUHPINFO_API_RESTJOBS.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: humor: look at the logo these people made for IBM. It is cute

2012-05-24 Thread zMan
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Pommier, Rex R. rex.pomm...@cnasurety.com wrote: It's been around for a long time, but not with the microphone and not slash across the eye. That was the part I thought John was talking about. Good catch, I missed that! -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and

Re: IBM(r) z/OS(r) Management Facility (z/OSMF)

2012-05-24 Thread Martin, Larry D
Matt, I think it is a really good tool. The security, however, is very complex. If you are a RACF shop then you are in good shape. We are Top Secret and it was a real struggle. ..Larry -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On

Re: IBM(r) z/OS(r) Management Facility (z/OSMF)

2012-05-24 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 5/24/2012 8:46 AM, Martin, Larry D wrote: I think it is a really good tool. The security, however, is very complex. If you are a RACF shop then you are in good shape. We are Top Secret and it was a real struggle. Lol! z/OSMF security has been a struggle for RACF shops too! :D This is

Re: Comparing datasets

2012-05-24 Thread Sri h Kolusu
Zaromil, You can use DFSORT's JOINKEYS to compare the datasets. Here is a sample job which will compare the 2 datasets treating the first 2 bytes as a key to compare. You can have a maximum of 4080 bytes as a key. //STEP0100 EXEC PGM=SORT //SYSOUT DD SYSOUT=* //INA DD * C1 B1 A1

RESOURCE CONTROL TABLE ???

2012-05-24 Thread Uwe Oswald
Hi, hope someone can help. Does someone have a REXX code fragment where I can get the actual (!) MSU of a LPAR usage splitted up by WLM importances? I mean something like field RCTLACS in RCT for the 4h rolling Average. In what (control block-) field is the actual MSU usage and is there a

Re: IBM(r) z/OS(r) Management Facility (z/OSMF)

2012-05-24 Thread David Andrews
On Thu, 2012-05-24 at 11:51 -0400, Edward Jaffe wrote: Lol! z/OSMF security has been a struggle for RACF shops too! :D MSM had its own set of security demands... -- David Andrews A. Duda Sons, Inc. david.andr...@duda.com --

Re: IBM(r) z/OS(r) Management Facility (z/OSMF)

2012-05-24 Thread Knutson, Sam
z/OS role of Explorer Eclipse GUI was updated to use that in V1.1.1 but it does require z/OS 1.13. That combination will let you look at running jobs with Explorer. The price on Explorer is right... Free. http://www-01.ibm.com/software/htp/cics/explorer/     Best Regards,  

Re: Early IPL problems

2012-05-24 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 5/23/2012 10:17 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: You also used this to reply to password requests for system data sets having all hex-zero passwords. I don't recall[1] having done so. If you can explain How I forgot, I'd like to try the same technique on some other, equally undesirable,

Re: Comparison of compiler generated code AD 1980(ish) v 2010(ish)

2012-05-24 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
The test runs were on a z196 with current z/OS release. I didn't do the tests myself, only was told about the results, but the co-worker normally is very reliable. Regards Bernd Am 24.05.2012 12:54, schrieb Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.): In4fbd69b6.5080...@t-online.de, on 05/24/2012 at

Re: IBM(r) z/OS(r) Management Facility (z/OSMF)

2012-05-24 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 5/24/2012 9:44 AM, Knutson, Sam wrote: z/OS role of Explorer Eclipse GUI was updated to use that in V1.1.1 but it does require z/OS 1.13. That combination will let you look at running jobs with Explorer. The price on Explorer is right... Free. I don't think CICS Explorer depends on any

Re: IBM(r) z/OS(r) Management Facility (z/OSMF)

2012-05-24 Thread Knutson, Sam
V1.1.1 adds a new connection type which z/OSMF and is required to view active jobs. This depends on z/OSMF and specifically requires z/OSMF at 1.13. V1.1.1 still supports FTP connections but with the limitations they have had previously which are relieved with the new connection type. If you try

Re: IBM's first tape drive turns 60 (makes you feel old!)

2012-05-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 23 May 2012 10:33:52 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: on 05/22/2012 at 10:22 AM, John Gilmore said: One-inch tapes were once very common in IBM shops, Common? I had the impression they were rare (well, I never saw one). And expensive. It wouldn't make economic sense to split

Re: Comparing datasets

2012-05-24 Thread Charles Mills
Very cool! Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Sri h Kolusu Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 8:35 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Comparing datasets Zaromil, You can use DFSORT's JOINKEYS to compare the