Metal C does NOT use LE. And, of course, with HLASM you have the choice to not
use LE or to make your program LE compatible.
Lloyd
- Original Message
From: Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Wed, May 16, 2012 9:12:24 AM
Subject: Re: Comparison of
Licensed Program Products. i.e., IBM separate products: COBOL, C, etc.
Lloyd
- Original Message
From: Frank Swarbrick frank.swarbr...@yahoo.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Fri, May 4, 2012 7:02:44 PM
Subject: /usr/lpp
Unimportant question, probably, but I've long wondered...
Go re-read the decision. The decision said nothing about the actual SAS code.
It said that the documented interfaces including the language could not be
copyrighted.
The code and the documentation can be copyrighted and protected.
Lloyd
- Original Message
From: Scott Ford
Back in my NOMAD days, those types of Nomad procedures were called NOBOL
programs: Nomad COBOL. We had lots of people tryng to follow COBOL structure
to write Nomad and many of them ended up with similar issues.
Lloyd
- Original Message
From: Edward Jaffe
: GO TO cobol
In 1334839226.16701.yahoomai...@web180901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com, on
04/19/2012
at 05:40 AM, Lloyd Fuller leful...@sbcglobal.net said:
Actually, the 1004 and the 1005 versions.
The 1004 was programmed with a plugboard. The 1005 started life as a
special plugboard for the 1004
I do not know if that is the name of the product, but several things in C/C++
for z/OS report themselves as OS/390. And that is what many of the open source
products expect for z/OS.
Lloyd
- Original Message
From: Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Fri,
...@web180906.mail.ne1.yahoo.com, on
04/17/2012
at 12:38 PM, Lloyd Fuller leful...@sbcglobal.net said:
Univac SAAL computers
ITYM UNIVAC 1005[1]. I had successfully ripped the memory out by the
roots; thank you for reminding me :-(
[1] SAAL was the assembler.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
cob ridden memory. But I
also now remember Ft Ben Harrison (now). I remember the guys talking about the
desert and thats about all.
Ed
On Apr 17, 2012, at 7:17 AM, Lloyd Fuller wrote:
In 1969, and until sometime in the 1970s or later, the Army programming school
was at Fort Benjamin
PFC = Private First Class. An Army rank. The Marines may also use it.
Lloyd
- Original Message
From: Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Mon, April 16, 2012 7:27:30 PM
Subject: Re: GO TO cobol
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 16:45:21 -0500, Matthew Stitt wrote:
In 1969, and until sometime in the 1970s or later, the Army programming school
was at Fort Benjamin Harrison in Indiana.
Graduated in March 1969 as a Staff Sergeant converted to a SP6. Programming
since then.
lLOYD
- Original Message
From: Ed Gould edgould1...@comcast.net
To:
years...
Scott Ford
Senior Systems Engineer
www.identityforge.com
On Apr 17, 2012, at 8:17 AM, Lloyd Fuller leful...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
In 1969, and until sometime in the 1970s or later, the Army programming
school
was at Fort Benjamin Harrison in Indiana.
Graduated in March 1969
When I went in 1969, we used a 1401 with 4 tape drives. We were taught COBOL
but could not compile: the COBOL compiler for the 1401 needed either disk or
at
least 6 tape drives.
We also learned to program PCM and two Univac SAAL computers that were in use
by the Army at the time.
Lloyd
Walt,
Some of it would be difficult unless you embed at least some assembler in the
Metal C stuff. For example, all date handling is removed from Metal C even the
capability of getting the system date although that is trivial in assembler.
There are other things that are missing from Metal C
INLINE when OPTIMIZE(0) is in effect
All suboptions of INLINE
Doesn't the use of metal/builtins.h negate the useful of INLINE?
Lloyd
- Original Message
From: Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Fri, April 13, 2012 12:24:15 PM
Subject: Re: Modernizing the BCP
A large section in the same Programming Guide Understanding z/OS UNIX
sockets
and internetworking talks about support for the various flavors of sockets
with a pointer to the z/OS XL C/C++ Run-Time Library Reference for the exact
API.
One point about sockets and C on z/OS: most UNIX
Neale,
The next question is how do you get the seal tight? Use the Chief's home brew
or would the seal be smart enough to require something better? :-)
Lloyd
- Original Message
From: Neale Ferguson ne...@sinenomine.net
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Wed, April 11, 2012 10:07:20 AM
And, if someone builds an anti-virus program for z/OS, please tell me before
you
announce it publicly. I know some out-source companies I would like to buy
stock in because MIPS are going way up.
Lloyd
- Original Message
From: David Cole dbc...@colesoft.com
To:
Yes, stop and think about it. How can you replace one byte with two and still
maintain the same length?
Depending upon the characters used, some of the UTF-8 characters are really
16-bits.
Lloyd
- Original Message
From: גדי בן אבי gad...@malam.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent:
UNICODE does, but not necessarily subsets of the full UNICODE. UTF-8 is a
subset and UTF-16 is a subset. I am not sure about UTF-32.
So It does not surprise me that UTF-8 does not have the Hebrew alphabet. I
believe (without checking the actual UNICODE description) that UTF-8 is
primarily
I attended and worked at Orange Coast College in Costa Mesa, CA, USA, in the
mid-1970s. We had a 370-155 (later 158).
The library was a few buildings away. It had a micro-wave connection to the
library at our sister campus in the next city over (Huntington Beach if I
remember correctly).
On the older 7bit tape drives with the header that went up and down as the tape
was unloaded and loaded, it was also possible to put a peanut butter and jelly
sandwich. The tape load then caused the SE LOTS of problems. Just ask the
Raytheon Boston data center people in the late 1960s. I am
That works. In fact you can also do a partial substitution using a variable.
Lloyd
- Original Message
From: Hardee, Chuck chuck.har...@thermofisher.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Wed, March 7, 2012 3:16:05 PM
Subject: Re: Tips for continuing DD statement with only one parameter
I remember reconfiguring on the fly with MFT. The partitions had to be
adjacent
in memory and had to be empty: no running programs in those partitions.
Lloyd
- Original Message
From: Gerhard Postpischil gerh...@valley.net
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Mon, March 5, 2012 1:27:26
Engineer
www.identityforge.com
On Mar 1, 2012, at 9:05 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote:
In 1330520469.27305.yahoomai...@web180907.mail.ne1.yahoo.com, on
02/29/2012
at 05:01 AM, Lloyd Fuller leful...@sbcglobal.net said:
No. When we used PCP on the Model 40
Lloyd Fuller's
confusion may be only a terminological one. Still, I too guess that
he may have been using DOS.
--jg
On 3/1/12, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote:
In 1330520469.27305.yahoomai...@web180907.mail.ne1.yahoo.com, on
02/29/2012
at 05:01 AM, Lloyd Fuller
Yes, and from a vendor stand point, since the Ported Tools are NOT standard
install, you cannot depend upon them being available at the site.
Lloyd
- Original Message
From: Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thu, March 1, 2012 4:09:07 PM
Subject: Re: How
, on
02/28/2012
at 10:49 AM, Lloyd Fuller leful...@sbcglobal.net said:
But, of course, with the spooler partition.
SPOOL? There is no SPOOL in PCP.
Oh, you mean the offline 1401.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html
But, of course, with the spooler partition. We have to get rid of those excess
trees. :-)
Lloyd
- Original Message
From: Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Tue, February 28, 2012 11:10:04 AM
Subject: Re: TINC?
Bah! Viva PCP!
--
Isn't that what tincture is for? :-) Or maybe not just the extract.
Lloyd
- Original Message
From: Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Mon, February 27, 2012 2:23:52 PM
Subject: Re: TINC?
Is there a cure of TINC? Maybe a treatment ?
Sent from my iPad
METAL has a very restrictive function set. The C compiler generates assembler
as the output and you then have to assemble to get the object. METAL can also
use AR mode. There is a separate C manual that describes METAL.
Note that if you are using C++, you CANNOT use METAL. METAL is only
There is an older version of GCC that is ported to z/OS on the CBT. As far as
I
am concerned one of the advantages of GCC is that it is NOT LE so you can use
it
in places that you cannot use normal z/OS C. And it has a larger library than
the METAL option of xlc.
Lloyd
- Original
that both generate Assembler source code, but METAL
doesn't use C function.
ITschak
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Lloyd Fuller leful...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
METAL has a very restrictive function set. The C compiler generates
assembler
as the output and you then have to assemble to get
what I need them to do.
Lloyd
- Original Message
From: Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Fri, February 3, 2012 10:23:29 AM
Subject: Re: gcc on z/OS (was: CPP (C++) file on z/OS)
On Fri, 3 Feb 2012 05:31:12 -0800, Lloyd Fuller wrote:
There is an older
Go back to the other proc and look at your STEPLIB libraries in the execution
step. XPLINK requires a different set of libraries. There are three sets for
xlc:
1. XPLINK
2. non-XPLINK, LE
3. non-XPLINK, non-LE, for the METAL option.
Lloyd
- Original Message
From: Sevetson,
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time now nobody would dare disrespect me this is just between usbra
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There was also a 2250 in that timeframe, but I do not remember the size. We
had
one of each in Stuttgart, but could not use them because the request for the
extra memory to be able to run the communications program was cut from the
budget request. The general did not care about the system
Add SPACE and VOLUME parameters, and change OLD to MOD. That way if it does
exist, it will be deleted, and if it does not, it will be created and deleted
in
the same step.
Use it all of the time. You can also use UNIT=SYSDA (or some such) instead of
VOLUME.
Lloyd
- Original
My first computing job after Army programming school was at a place running PCP
on a 64K Model 40 during the day and 1401 emulation for production at night.
Lloyd
Programming since 1969.
- Original Message
From: Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net
To:
Linda,
I used your URL for the z114 Redbook and scrolled down through page 29 without
problem. I used Firefox v3.6.23.
Lloyd
- Original Message
From: Linda Mooney linda.lst...@comcast.net
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thu, October 13, 2011 5:43:22 PM
Subject: Re: Redbook d/l issue
Actually pax will support input or output MVS files: you can pax from an MVS
flat file to the appropriate UNIX files or pax into an MVS flat file from UNIX
files. But notice that the files being manipulated by pax are always UNIX
files.
I am not sure about tar do this. I have only done it
), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The
MEGA
Life and Health Insurance Company.SM
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
[mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lloyd Fuller
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 8:05 AM
To: IBM-MAIN
I wonder how damaged the card was afterwords? If I recall correctly, the 407
can confetti a deck pretty well. It wasn't as good as the sorters, but it
could
usually manage.
Lloyd
- Original Message
From: Joel C. Ewing jcew...@acm.org
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thu, August 18,
And the basis for many of the SHARE requirements that generated HLASM. :-) So
many thanks to Greg.
Lloyd
- Original Message
From: Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Sun, August 7, 2011 1:20:01 AM
Subject: Re: assembler help!
In
Actually it was canceled because Nixon refused to subside it any longer.
Boeing
(and I believe Lockheed or someone else) were getting federal subsidies to help
pay for the development work. In 1973 or 1974, Nixon made the decision to stop
the money flow.
Part of the excuses was about the
No.
ICM ..,7,.. is going to load from the leftmost 24 bits of operand 3 NOT from
the rightmost 24 bits. BTDT and had to fix it.
Lloyd
- Original Message
From: Tom Marchant m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Fri, August 5, 2011 3:25:02 PM
Subject: Re:
About 3 or 4 screens to the right on z/OS 1.10, Dallas, after ? on I
command-line:
NP JOBNAME eNamePhase Type RNum Programmer-Name Acct No
Lloyd
- Original Message
From: Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Tue, August 2, 2011 2:32:20
Back in the 1980s, I was working for the company that does the NOMAD2 product.
We had sold our product to a particular secretive government agency after they
did a lot of security checking to be sure that we didn't leak data. We were
not
allowed to say that they were a customer not even to
What language are the routines written in? I believe that COBOL has documented
behavior that does exactly this: the difference is between STOP RUN and GOBACK
if I remember correctly.
Other languages may have similar behavior.
Lloyd
- Original Message
From: Binyamin Dissen
I do not know if it is from the IBM Ported Tools or where, but we have Perl on
z/OS:
/VERSYSB/usr/lpp/perl/lib/5.8.7/
Lloyd
- Original Message
From: Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thu, July 21, 2011 9:51:22 AM
Subject: Perl (was: Making Z/OS
Maybe the problem is that it IS working, but what you mean and what System Test
means are two different things. :-)
I have seen that often enough in design specifications.
Lloyd
- Original Message
From: John Eells ee...@us.ibm.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thu, June 2, 2011
You can also use the UNIX command compress which has been available for longer.
It exists under UNIX system services. I use it regularly with UNIX files. I
have NOT tried it with MVS side files.
Lloyd
- Original Message
From: John McKown joa...@swbell.net
To:
Neale,
I don't have the ADCD yet so what I say may not be correct.
I am currently using the IBM Dallas support center systems. There each ported
tool lpp directory has its own zfs volume: /VERSYSB/usr/lpp/ported
(POR113.PUTHFS), /VERSYSB/usr/lpp/perl (POR113.PRLHFS), etc.
So maybe you can
zMan wrote:
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Robert A. Rosenberg hal9...@panix.com wrote:
At 15:28 -0500 on 02/22/2011, Galambos, Robert wrote about Re: What is
Toronto:
as a side note. Person airport is not actually in Toronto but another city
called Mississauga
IOW: It is an Toronto area
zMan wrote:
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Brian Kennelly
brian+ibm-m...@bkennelly.net wrote, re days so far in the year as
a date format:
That is actually a very import format, as well as the full format returned
by the TIME macro: 0cyyddd. (Century, year, days in year.)
Sure, days this
Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
I believe HLASM is based on the H level assembler with lots of
changes.
Soem of which had been developed at SLAC.
Yep. I was one of the ones that helped develop the business case for
them so that John could get the HLASM written after he moved to IBM.
Remember: there used to be several levels of assembler: D, E, and F as well
as
H. D and E in particular had lots of restrictions on what MACROs and COPYs
could do because of lack of memory. I believe D would run in a 64K real
machine
and E required 96K machine.
And to make matters
I also have a Casio fx-115, but mine is an m and not a s. Works great.
Lloyd
- Original Message
From: Ron Wells rwe...@agfinance.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thu, June 3, 2010 1:33:43 PM
Subject: Re: Recommendations for a good old fashion HEX calcuator
yep--casio
OS/2 is alive. It is now called ecomstation and the latest releaseis due at
the end of the week. It is just no longer sold by IBM.
Lloyd
- Original Message
From: R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Mon, May 10, 2010 12:57:48 PM
Subject: Re: Amazing
32760 is correct for access method services: you need to leave room for the
BDW which gets added by access method for RECFM=B. Access method services
treats the BLKSIZE as a signed value so values over 32767 are negative, not
positive.
The hardware and EXCP supports larger. I have used
When I was at Orange Coast College in Costa Mesa in the early 1970s, the APL
professor had been fighting for a couple of years to get APL as his plate.
The review board kept denying him. Even though he explained what it meant,
they KNEW that it had to really be something dirty. I don't know
Open MVS provides shared memory.
Data spaces are used. That said, reading between the lines it looks like the
supervisor (and I am not sure if this is the UNIX piece or MVS piece) plays
games with the page or segment tables and actually maps the data space memory
into the primary address
I respect your knowledge, Lynn, but I cannot let that go by without
saying somethings.
1. NCSS did not go away because of the PC revolution: they gave up
after DB bought them. I worked there at the time on VP/CSS. There are
MANY things that we did with VP/CSS that even PCs, z/VM and z/OS
I used WYLBUR (or maybe SuperWYLBUR) in the late 1970s at a time-sharing
company in the Washington DC area. I do not remember the name of the company.
Lloyd
--- On Thu, 2/25/10, John Kington john.king...@convergys.com wrote:
From: John Kington john.king...@convergys.com
Subject: Re:
It was also a tank before the M1 Abrams.
Lloyd
--- On Mon, 12/21/09, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com wrote:
From: Chase, John jch...@ussco.com
Subject: Re: Portable data centers (was RE: Small Server Mob Advantage)
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Date: Monday, December 21, 2009, 3:30 PM
Don,
Was this using the old Formatted File System? The military used lots of this
for awhile.
Lloyd
--- On Sat, 12/19/09, Don Higgins d...@higgins.net wrote:
From: Don Higgins d...@higgins.net
Subject: Re: 360 programs on a z/10
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Date: Saturday, December 19, 2009,
Howard Brazee wrote:
On 8 Dec 2009 05:02:00 -0800, jch...@ussco.com (Chase, John) wrote:
How big were those, compared to an iPod?
Probably like battleship::kayak.
Physical size. How about capacity?
360/30s with 256K. Full 2314 = 8 x 800K. I am not sure how many tape
drives, but
What do you mean Sun was the first?
The US Army used 360/30 and 360/40s in 18-wheel trailers back in the early
1960s - 40 years before Sun thought of the idea. The Army even had those in
Vietnam for the division data centers.
Lloyd
--- On Mon, 12/7/09, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com wrote:
-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu]
On
Behalf Of Lloyd Fuller
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 2:57 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Portable data centers (was RE: Small Server
Mob
Advantage)
What do you mean Sun was the first?
The US Army used 360
Anne Lynn Wheeler wrote:
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well.
leful...@sbcglobal.net (Lloyd Fuller) writes:
What do you mean Sun was the first?
The US Army used 360/30 and 360/40s in 18-wheel
Howard Brazee wrote:
On 7 Dec 2009 13:01:33 -0800, steve_thomp...@stercomm.com (Thompson,
Steve) wrote:
What do you mean Sun was the first?
The US Army used 360/30 and 360/40s in 18-wheel trailers back in the
early 1960s - 40 years before Sun thought of the idea. The Army even
had those in
Actually, my first drive was SCSI. I could get a 40MB Seagate SCCI drive with
the controller cheaper than I get could an RLL which was just coming out at the
time. It was more expensive than the MFM, but it was larger and faster. :)
Lloyd
--- On Thu, 10/22/09, Thompson, Steve
There needs to be an expectation level set here:
64 bit addressing does not equal 64 bit arithmetic.
You can use the 64 bit arithmetic instructions WITHOUT using 64 bit addressing.
Our product does it all of the time. You just need to be running on the
correct architecture to use the 64 bit
Clark Morris wrote:
On 9 Oct 2009 01:35:23 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
If these are for QSAM data sets, does the C program do a FREEPOOL
(free the buffer pool) on CLOSE. For reasons I don't understand,
apparently CLOSE does not automatically free the buffers. I think the
Eric Chevalier wrote:
On 25 Aug 2009 14:14:56 -0700,
hmerr...@jackhenry.com (Hal Merritt) wrote:
VPN is a good solution, but not PCI compliant.
That statement just doesn't make sense, and even verges on being
factually incorrect. The current PCI DSS document, version 1.2.1,
_explicitly_
Alan Scott wrote:
My team is at a bi-yearly coop test. We have been given a z900 to test on.
Our system is a z890 w/o optional PCI crypto. We do have the feature 3863
enabled so we can use the crypto that is built in to the z890. We only need
the crypto for SSL TN3270 and FTP/SSL.
At coop
I was one of the CSS developers. And there are several things that I would
love to have the source for. But it is all
gone.
Lloyd
CSS 1979-1984
Nomad 1984-2006
On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 11:18:20 -0500, Rick Fochtman wrote:
-snip---
And National CSS made
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 08:25:17 -0600, Howard Brazee wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jun 07 10:42:55 GMT, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
When? I never considered IBM world and its batch environment
timesharing. Timesharing does not do large data processing tasks
well; and it's not supposed to.
For
On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 20:32:18 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote:
If it were not for keys, some customers wouldn't pay on time (or wouldn't pay
at all).
THAT is my point of disagreement!
Most shops that are mainframe shops are large companies.
Large companies do NOT want their names in the press.
Ergo,
On Fri, 9 Feb 2007 21:57:12 -0500, Walter Farrell wrote:
On 2/9/2007 12:00 PM, Steve Rawlins wrote:
I work at a small company where our z9 is used just for our development and
testing, not a production
environment. So I sometimes am my own sysadmin, sysprog, security officer, etc.
I am
On Fri, 8 Dec 2006 12:59:22 -0600, McKown, John wrote:
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Brazee
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 11:23 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: IBM sues maker of Intel-based Mainframe
On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 11:59:42 -0600, Howard Brazee wrote:
Once again, thanks to all... but I can't even get a tape mounted, the
SMC0043 tells me that the unit cannot be allocated.
Uhh, everyone is talking tape. Does the output have to be tape?
USS will gladly translate the file to ASCII for
--- Bruce Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Encryption Facility can use HW-based
compression before
encryption, all on the server. (One has to
specify its use because
there is no way to uncompress the data on a non-z
server.)
??? the hardware compression (CPACF) has been
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 11:39:25 -0400, Bob Shannon wrote:
In the days of paper dumps, the letter agencies used to cut out the
sensitive stuff before giving the dumps to IBM.
Bob Shannon
Rocket Software
Not just IBM. We got more than one dump with 99% of the information redacted.
That made it
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