Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Librari es, Not Source

2009-08-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:40:31 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: Stocker, Herman wrote: ... they want a package [...] from a vendor who can be held accountable if some thing goes wrong. Accountable? Better read the disclaimer carefully. A software provider like IBM or an ISV will fix a bug if you

Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Librari es, Not Source

2009-08-18 Thread Chris Craddock
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.comwrote: Stocker, Herman wrote: ... they want a package [...] from a vendor who can be held accountable if some thing goes wrong. Accountable? Better read the disclaimer carefully. A software provider like IBM or an

Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Librari es, Not Source

2009-08-18 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 03:19:16 -0500, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: ... ...who can be held accountable if some thing goes wrong. Accountable? Better read the disclaimer carefully. A software provider like IBM or an ISV will fix a bug if you report it. But, they won't pay you for

Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Librari es, Not Source

2009-08-17 Thread Stocker, Herman
We are currently running CA-Endevor. Management does not feel that it gives them the protection that they are looking for. They are looking for an additional product that would allow them to archive the load modules before any update is made. They would like a product that would copy (archive

Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Librari es, Not Source

2009-08-17 Thread McKown, John
First, please forgive me for blue skying (or just fantasizing a bit). One thing comes to mind that could possibly be done. And it would not require a vendor product. But it uses z/OS UNIX files as a storage medium. I don't know Endevor much. I did a quick question to our Endevor person. Endevor

Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Librari es, Not Source

2009-08-17 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:01:27 -0400, Stocker, Herman herman.stoc...@avisbudget.com wrote: We are currently running CA-Endevor. Management does not feel that it gives them the protection that they are looking for. They are looking for an additional product that would allow them to archive the

Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Librari es, Not Source

2009-08-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:16:11 -0500, McKown, John wrote: Now, if you can capture the name of the load module and the library which is going to be updated, then I can envision a step which could use the TSO XMIT command to XMIT the load module into a file in a UNIX subdirectory. The name of the

Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Librari es, Not Source

2009-08-17 Thread Gibney, Dave
Since you have full control of what the Endevor processors do, just add IEBCOPY and other appropriate steps to the ADD/MOVE processors. Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Librari es, Not Source

2009-08-17 Thread Stocker, Herman
Thank you Dave, We have all ready suggested that. However, they want a package that will archive the load modules, from a vendor who can be held accountable if some thing goes wrong. Thank you. Regards, Herman Stocker - Snip- Since you have full control of what the Endevor

Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Librari es, Not Source

2009-08-17 Thread Gibney, Dave
We've never been able to afford it, but I understand Changeman to be one of the top products in this area. Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of

Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Librari es, Not Source

2009-08-17 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Stocker, Herman Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 12:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Librari es, Not Source Thank you

Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Librari es, Not Source

2009-08-17 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 11:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Librari es, Not Source On Mon, 17

Re: Any Utilities to Archive Members of a PDS/PDSE - Load Librari es, Not Source

2009-08-17 Thread Edward Jaffe
Stocker, Herman wrote: ... they want a package [...] from a vendor who can be held accountable if some thing goes wrong. Accountable? Better read the disclaimer carefully. A software provider like IBM or an ISV will fix a bug if you report it. But, they won't pay you for down time or lost