Re: CA Easytrieve replacement

2010-03-13 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2010-03-12 17:25, Ron Hawkins pisze: I'd say it's more like 50% based on shops I've visited over the years. It's exactly 0% of the shops I've visited over the years. (honestly, in one case I'm not sure) A conslusion is a proverb: Mine and my brother-in-law's opinion does not

Re: CA Easytrieve replacement

2010-03-13 Thread Ron Hawkins
Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] CA Easytrieve replacement W dniu 2010-03-12 17:25, Ron Hawkins pisze: I'd say it's more like 50% based on shops I've visited over the years. It's exactly 0% of the shops I've visited over the years. (honestly, in one case I'm not sure) A conslusion is a proverb

Re: CA Easytrieve replacement

2010-03-12 Thread Howard Brazee
On 11 Mar 2010 10:37:24 -0800, sredst...@googlemail.com (simone redstock) wrote: Most mainframe shops own File/AID. This has both an online and batch element to it. File/AID batch is very powerful and we have replaced many of our Easytrieve jobs with it. It performs better (less CPU) and is far

Re: CA Easytrieve replacement

2010-03-12 Thread Howard Brazee
On 11 Mar 2010 14:44:31 -0800, wgshi...@benekeith.com (Greg Shirey) wrote: Most mainframe shops own File/AID??? I didn't know that, but I do know mine does not. Mine doesn't. Which could explain why I don't remember it having Easytrieve type reporting capabilities, those could be new.

Re: CA Easytrieve replacement

2010-03-12 Thread Dana Mitchell
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:11:11 -0600, Paul Peplinski paul.peplin...@wpsic.com wrote: There is one product (IBM Migration Utility) that claims to support EZT, meaning it can convert EZT to COBOL on the fly and you can continue to code using EZT syntax if you wish. IBM was reselling Foundation's

Re: CA Easytrieve replacement

2010-03-12 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Howard Brazee Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 8:46 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CA Easytrieve replacement On 11 Mar 2010 14:44:31 -0800, wgshi...@benekeith.com (Greg Shirey

Re: CA Easytrieve replacement

2010-03-12 Thread Andy Robertson
I am not very familiar with EasyTrieve (we have it). ICETOOL has some nice reporting tools in it also. What would be really nice would be a way to process a COBOL copybook to create ICETOOL symbols. John McKown COBDFSYM, from the Tools Tricks page???

Re: CA Easytrieve replacement

2010-03-12 Thread Andy Robertson
On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:10:18 -0600, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: I am not very familiar with EasyTrieve (we have it). ICETOOL has some nice reporting tools in it also. What would be really nice would be a way to process a COBOL copybook to create ICETOOL symbols.

Re: CA Easytrieve replacement

2010-03-12 Thread Ron Hawkins
I'd say it's more like 50% based on shops I've visited over the years. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Howard Brazee Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 6:46 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] CA Easytrieve

Re: CA Easytrieve replacement

2010-03-12 Thread Frank Yaeger
John McKown wrote on 03/12/2010 07:10:18 AM: I am not very familiar with EasyTrieve (we have it). ICETOOL has some nice reporting tools in it also. What would be really nice would be a way to process a COBOL copybook to create ICETOOL symbols. John, See the Create DFSORT Symbols from COBOL

Re: CA Easytrieve replacement

2010-03-11 Thread simone redstock
Most mainframe shops own File/AID. This has both an online and batch element to it. File/AID batch is very powerful and we have replaced many of our Easytrieve jobs with it. It performs better (less CPU) and is far easier to maintain. even some of our junior team members are proficient in File/AID

Re: CA Easytrieve replacement

2010-03-11 Thread Paul Peplinski
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:26:44 +, simone redstock sredst...@googlemail.com wrote: Most mainframe shops own File/AID. This has both an online and batch element to it. File/AID batch is very powerful and we have replaced many of our Easytrieve jobs with it. It performs better (less CPU) and is

Re: CA Easytrieve replacement

2010-03-11 Thread Chris Hoelscher
i guess it depends why you are wanting to replace CA-Easytrieve money? functionality? ease of use? support? at many shops at which I have pretented to work, I have used a product once called QUIKJOB - now called Advantageā¼§ VISION:Report yes it is another CA product - but it is the most

Re: CA Easytrieve replacement

2010-03-11 Thread Greg Shirey
Most mainframe shops own File/AID??? I didn't know that, but I do know mine does not. As much as our Compuware reps (who I like and respect) would like to have us replace Easytrieve with File/Aid, the programmers here who have worked with both report that it is *not* a no-brainer, for many of

CA Easytrieve replacement

2010-02-16 Thread Greg Shirey
If anyone has replaced CA-Easytrieve at their shop and is willing to share details about what product was chosen and how the replacement performs in comparison to Easytrieve, I'd be very interested in hearing about it. Please contact me off-line. TIA, Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Company

Re: CA Easytrieve replacement

2010-02-16 Thread Edgington, Gerald
Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Greg Shirey Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 11:32 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: CA Easytrieve replacement If anyone has replaced CA-Easytrieve at their shop and is willing to share details about what product was chosen and how

Re: CA Easytrieve replacement

2010-02-16 Thread Ron Wells
you recall the product ibm had?? From: Edgington, Gerald gerald.edging...@libertymutual.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 02/16/2010 10:36 AM Subject: Re: CA Easytrieve replacement Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu There is/was an IBM tool, which was suppose

Re: CA Easytrieve replacement

2010-02-16 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Subject: Re: CA Easytrieve replacement Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu There is/was an IBM tool, which was suppose to replace Easytrieve. The IBM product basically converts to the Easytrieve to Cobol, but without regards to performance or maintainability. Our

Re: CA Easytrieve replacement

2010-02-16 Thread Ted MacNEIL
If anyone has replaced CA-Easytrieve at their shop and is willing to share details about what product was chosen and how the replacement performs in comparison to Easytrieve, I'd be very interested in hearing about it. I did it once, many aeons ago. CA didn't own EZTREV, then. We replaced it

Re: CA Easytrieve replacement

2010-02-16 Thread Greg Shirey
16, 2010 10:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CA Easytrieve replacement you recall the product ibm had?? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu

Re: CA Easytrieve replacement

2010-02-16 Thread Knutson, Sam
big, act bold, start simple, grow fast... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Greg Shirey Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 11:32 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: CA Easytrieve replacement If anyone has replaced CA-Easytrieve

Re: CA Easytrieve replacement

2010-02-16 Thread Lizette Koehler
I believe there should be careful consideration when replacing products. Basic cost is one, but there are others. Are you looking for something that can read Easytrieve and not require a conversion? Are you going to provide training to those that are currently using Easytrieve but will need

Re: CA Easytrieve replacement

2010-02-16 Thread Ed Gould
From: Itschak Mugzach imugz...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tue, February 16, 2010 11:24:36 AM Subject: Re: CA Easytrieve replacement IBM resell (under OEM) PengiEzt the foundation Software. The product has two modes of operation: One time conversion

Re: CA Easytrieve replacement

2010-02-16 Thread Greg Shirey
Lizette, I appreciate your response, but we do not have a specific requirement. We are simply exploring options. I was not trying to suggest that we are dissatisfied or are trying to lower costs, though I realize these are the obvious reasons for someone asking a question such as mine.

Re: CA Easytrieve replacement

2010-02-16 Thread David Andrews
On Tue, 2010-02-16 at 13:08 -0500, Knutson, Sam wrote: You might also join and post your question in the IBM ISVCOSTS forum. It is a forum provided by IBM for candid discussion of vendor products and excludes ISV representatives. I'll add that ISVCOSTS isn't really a technical forum. (There