Re: CFSIZER?

2011-07-11 Thread Barbara Nitz
Well, as of today, Sizer is broken again. I get the MQ errors again. For the health checker structure (which previously gave me a cflevel13 answer) I now get the MQ error, too. A hit&miss tool. Barbara -- For IBM-MAIN subscr

Re: CFSIZER?

2011-07-07 Thread Barbara Nitz
As of this morning, Bill has managed to fix the sizer (or have it fixed). Using the url http://www.ibm.com/systems/support/z/cfsizer/, which immediately changes to the one I *had* been using (http://www-947.ibm.com/systems/support/z/cfsizer/), I now get results from the sizer, both for RRS and

Re: CFSIZER?

2011-07-07 Thread Barbara Nitz
> Well, I tried to take it offline but my email came back: I send Bill an email (from an ID that doesn't reject everyone) with what I used. Barbara -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email

Re: CFSIZER?

2011-07-07 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
"Barbara Nitz" wrote in message news:... > We're in the process of installing a z196 which will come with cflevel17. > We're currently running CFLEVEL15, and I have heard several horror stories > about problems with structure sizes on CFLEVEL17. > > So I went t

Re: CFSIZER?

2011-07-07 Thread Bill Neiman
Barbara, Well, I tried to take it offline but my email came back: If you're only getting the MQ error for certain structures, it may mean that there's a calculation error of some kind in the CFSizer back end, or that the inputs are mutually inconsistent and cause the sizing

Re: CFSIZER?

2011-07-07 Thread Bill Neiman
Responded offline to pursue the problem further. Bill Neiman Parallel Sysplex development, IBM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET

Re: CFSIZER?

2011-07-06 Thread Barbara Nitz
Bill, > CFSizer requests are fielded by a CF at the IBM Poughkeepsie site. I >suspect that you submitted your sizing requests during a period in which >that CF and its containing sysplex were down for the July 4th holiday. The >MQ messages simply mean that your sizing reques

Re: CFSIZER?

2011-07-06 Thread Mark Zelden
to be allocated with a >similar number of usable structure objects. It is highly recommended to use >the CFSIZER tool: http://www.ibm.com/systems/support/z/cfsizer/. > >In addition to the potential structure size changes mentioned in this note, the >CFCC Licensed Internal Code (LIC) for

Re: CFSIZER?

2011-07-06 Thread Meral Temel (Garanti Teknoloji)
vious CFLEVELs, in order to be allocated with a similar number of usable structure objects. It is highly recommended to use the CFSIZER tool: http://www.ibm.com/systems/support/z/cfsizer/. In addition to the potential structure size changes mentioned in this note, the CFCC Licensed Internal Code

Re: CFSIZER?

2011-07-06 Thread Dick Bond
Also ran into that here since we also followed the "big bang" theory while replacing two z9's with one z196. CFSIZER is "ok" if taken "tongue-in-cheek", but some warning about CFLEVEL code size should be available somewhere. Wait state since GRS wouldn'

Re: CFSIZER?

2011-07-06 Thread Bill Neiman
Barbara, CFSizer requests are fielded by a CF at the IBM Poughkeepsie site. I suspect that you submitted your sizing requests during a period in which that CF and its containing sysplex were down for the July 4th holiday. The MQ messages simply mean that your sizing request didn'

Re: CFSIZER?

2011-07-05 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 5 Jul 2011 11:48:37 +0200, mario@tiscali wrote: > >Also, when moving to CFLEVEL17 don't forget that the size of the CF >Control Code itself increases significantly. From some 100 MB to some >500 MB if I remember correctly. The CFCC LPAR memory definition should >be updated to accomodate t

Re: CFSIZER?

2011-07-05 Thread Barbara Nitz
> not to escape your question about CFSIZER, but if you are migrating >from one CF to the other, meaning there will be a timeframe when both of >them are online, then moving the structures through rebuild (or better >REALLOCATE) will manage this for you. Irrelevant here. The migra

Re: CFSIZER?

2011-07-05 Thread mario@tiscali
Barbara, not to escape your question about CFSIZER, but if you are migrating from one CF to the other, meaning there will be a timeframe when both of them are online, then moving the structures through rebuild (or better REALLOCATE) will manage this for you. During rebuild structures

CFSIZER?

2011-07-05 Thread Barbara Nitz
We're in the process of installing a z196 which will come with cflevel17. We're currently running CFLEVEL15, and I have heard several horror stories about problems with structure sizes on CFLEVEL17. So I went to the CFsizer to get the latest and greatest in sizes. Or so I thought.

Re: CFSizer

2008-02-05 Thread Bill Neiman
To close the loop: CFSizer has been updated to accept 8-digit lock number values for structures that require that input. Bill Neiman XCF Development -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions

Re: CFSizer

2008-01-20 Thread Bill Neiman
ace, I had a hard time finding the actual input screens. I did check to see if there was a feedback page somewhere, but didn't see any. (Must have looked in the wrong place). For those who haven't already discovered this, the CFSizer URL recently changed to http://www.ibm.com/systems/

Re: CFSizer

2008-01-17 Thread Barbara Nitz
Bill, before I take this offline, let me say this: Last time I checked structure sizes (back in September last year), the location of the sizer was somewhere else (it also looked different), so in the first place, I had a hard time finding the actual input screens. I did check to see if there w

Re: CFSizer

2008-01-17 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
"Bill Neiman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > Barbara et al, > > I am still the owner of CFSizer and I'll take a look at this problem. It > should be easy enough to get it to accept larger numbers of locks for the

Re: CFSizer

2008-01-17 Thread Bill Neiman
Barbara et al, I am still the owner of CFSizer and I'll take a look at this problem. It should be easy enough to get it to accept larger numbers of locks for the various structures that ask for that input. It will be a somewhat bigger piece of work to get the OEM Lock stru

Re: CFSizer

2008-01-16 Thread Ed Gould
On Jan 16, 2008, at 5:28 AM, Barbara Nitz wrote: ---SNIP The thing is, when I tried the "OEM Lock structure" with my 15 locks, I go an 'unexpected MQ error' or some such thing, and that OEM Lock structure allows more than 6 digits as input So I am really out of l

Re: CFSizer

2008-01-16 Thread Martin Packer
Not to comment on any reply in particular but rather to state the obvious:-)... I always say the estimates from CFSizer are a STARTING point. For example GBPs AREN'T going to be sized well from CFSizer. But this DOESN'T detract from Barbara's problem with CFSizer

Re: CFSizer

2008-01-16 Thread Scott Fagen
nd fixed it. I am hoping he will do so again, and we can take this offline then. Although I can no longer comment on how IBM might respond to your post on IBM-MAIN about the CFSIZER, I will offer the following observation: 1) CFLEVEL 15 will have some impact on the size of some number (if not al

Re: CFSizer

2008-01-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 01/16/2008 at 11:01 AM, "Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >This is the category of freeware internet toolz, warez etc. etc. If they >work, they work, if they don't you have bad luck. The price/performance >ratio also prevents you from complaining. I'v

Re: CFSizer

2008-01-16 Thread Barbara Nitz
Kees, come on! :-) "This is the category of freeware internet toolz, warez etc. etc. If they work, they work, if they don't you have bad luck. The price/performance ratio also prevents you from complaining. This is the new IT world where cellphones, ipods etc. have such a short lifecycle that it

Re: CFSizer

2008-01-16 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
"Barbara Nitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > In preparation of driver67L which for us includes changing to CFLevel15 we also checked structure sizes (again). I was informed for the first time that the sizer is completely useless, as it only accepts 9 locks f

CFSizer

2008-01-16 Thread Barbara Nitz
In preparation of driver67L which for us includes changing to CFLevel15 we also checked structure sizes (again). I was informed for the first time that the sizer is completely useless, as it only accepts 9 locks for the IRLM structures (IMS and DB2), and in our installation, a single program