a capacity of 10,017 cylinders, you should be able to
get 3 extents of 3335 cylinders on each work data set if the volumes are
empty.
From: Neil Duffee nduf...@uottawa.ca
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu,
Date: 05/01/2012 03:14 PM
Subject: Re: Confused on DFSORT SORTWK
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From: Scott Barry sba...@sbbworks.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu,
Date: 05/11/2012 03:14 PM
Subject: Re: Confused on DFSORT SORTWK
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Why would I be forced to code DSNTYPE=LARGE, rather than using the
WRKSEC=Y parameter
Mark,
In your case the reason code on the ICE083A was 970C but in Scott's case it
was 064K. So your ICE083A issue had nothing to do with not being allocated as
large format and exceeding 64K tracks. Rather, you didn't have volumes with
enough space because the sortwork allocation was only
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Mark,
In your case the reason code on the ICE083A was 970C but in Scott's case
it was 064K. So your ICE083A issue had nothing to do with not being
Skip Robinson wrote at IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
wrote on 05/08/2012 10:55:02 AM:
I'm pursuing conversion to PARMLIB from ICEAMx usermod. Is it possible
via ICEPRMxx to reset all options to IBM defaults? It appears from my
testing that the 'clear' process (empty
Date: 05/08/2012 12:16 PM
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SORTWK
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Skip Robinson wrote at IBM Mainframe Discussion List
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wrote on 05/08/2012 10:55:02 AM:
I'm
Betten bet...@us.ibm.com
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Date: 05/06/2012 02:53 PM
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DFSORT should be allocating as large format. Do you have VIO=YES as your
default. That might
on 05/06/2012
02:55:53 PM:
From: Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu,
Date: 05/06/2012 02:57 PM
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(Reconstructing thread from archive)
I read the posts
W dniu 2012-05-07 18:59, Skip Robinson pisze:
Bingo. We've had VIO=YES forever. We're revisiting our entire ICEMAC
usermod ASAP. Thanks!
I'd suggest to get rid of the usermod at all.
Nowadays DFSORT can be customized using PARMLIB members.
It's also an opportunity to rethink all the
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W dniu 2012-05-07 18:59, Skip Robinson pisze:
Bingo. We've had VIO=YES forever. We're revisiting our entire ICEMAC
usermod ASAP. Thanks!
I'd suggest to get rid of the usermod at all.
Nowadays
extents of 3335 cylinders on each work data set if the volumes are
empty.
From: Neil Duffee nduf...@uottawa.ca
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu,
Date: 05/01/2012 03:14 PM
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In addition to all the other
://www.ibm.com/storage/dfsort/
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 05/06/2012
02:55:53 PM:
From: Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu,
Date: 05/06/2012 02:57 PM
Subject: Re: Confused on DFSORT SORTWK
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: April 27, 2012 08:43
Subject: Confused on DFSORT SORTWK
Trying to sort a fairly large RMF data file. 20,000 + cylinders.
I keep running out of SORTWK space. I have 9 3390-9 volumes in my SMS
temporary storage pool. But I just noticed that no matter how many SORTWKxx DDs
I add it only allocates
innocent John Norgauer 2004
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From: Mark Pace [mailto:pace...@gma...com]
Sent: April 27, 2012 13:21
Subject: Re: Confused on DFSORT SORTWK
I have 8 3390-9 DASD that are strictly for temp space. 99% of the time they
are completely empty, as was the case when I
to
get 3 extents of 3335 cylinders on each work data set if the volumes are
empty.
From: Neil Duffee nduf...@uottawa.ca
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu,
Date: 05/01/2012 03:14 PM
Subject: Re: Confused on DFSORT SORTWK
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In addition to all
Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On
Behalf Of David Betten
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 12:53 PM
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Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Confused on DFSORT SORTWK
Just to clarify, DFSORT can cetrainly use more than the 1st extent, it
just can't
use multiple volumes
Trying to sort a fairly large RMF data file. 20,000 + cylinders.
I keep running out of SORTWK space. I have 9 3390-9 volumes in my SMS
temporary storage pool. But I just noticed that no matter how many SORTWKxx
DDs I add it only allocates file on the first 5 temp storage volumes.
Anyone have an
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Did you try to get rid of SORTWKxx DDs and use OPTION DYNALLOC ?
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W dniu 2012-04-27 14:43, Mark Pace pisze:
Trying to sort a fairly large RMF data file. 20,000 + cylinders.
I keep running out of SORTWK space. I have 9 3390-9 volumes in my SMS
temporary
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On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 07:03:08 -0600, Steve Comstock wrote:
Well that cleared that up! Now I understand. :-)
Yep - always pays to get the definitive answer in plain English ... d'oh
Shane ...
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Well part of the problem is an embarrassment. A couple of the volumes I
formatted incorrectly and were not SMS managed. :(
Trying again with all Temp volumes reformatted properly.
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Shane Ginnane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au wrote:
On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 07:03:08 -0600,
That corrected the error of running out space. However I thought it would
be a good idea to try DYNALLOC and be done with programers needing SORTWK
DD.
But change the JCL to
OPTION DYNALLOC=3390,FILSZ=E550
Causes it to fail almost immediately with SMS not allocating any space.
ICE083A D
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The above means 25 work datasets.
BTW: IMHO you should omit FILSZ. DFSORT is able to obtain file size for
most cases.
To David Betten: your emails looks like encrypted. We cannot read it.
Regards
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Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Poland
W dniu 2012-04-27 16:27, Mark
: Confused on DFSORT SORTWK
That corrected the error of running out space. However I
thought it would
be a good idea to try DYNALLOC and be done with programers
needing SORTWK
DD.
But change the JCL to
OPTION DYNALLOC=3390,FILSZ=E550
Causes it to fail almost immediately with SMS
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Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 9:27 AM
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That corrected the error of running
that SORT can allocate more
but smaller datasets.
Regards,
Ulrich Krueger
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Of Mark Pace
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 9:52 AM
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I
that SORT can allocate more
but smaller datasets.
Regards,
Ulrich Krueger
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Subject: Re: Confused on DFSORT
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I have 8 3390-9 DASD that are strictly for temp space. 99% of the time
they are completely empty, as was the case when I was running this as there
is no one else on the system right now.
I'll try using a bigger number.
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012
Just to clarify, DFSORT supports large format data sets for sortworks thus
allowing them to use more than
64K tracks. DFSORT's dynamic allocation allocates them as large format.
For JCL allocated sort works
you need to specify DSNTYPE=LARGE on the DD statements and DFSORT will
support that.
My
And that is how I got around my original problem, specifying DSNTYPE=LARGE
and using 1 cylinders per DD. Plus that stupid mistake of one of the
disk not being SMS managed. But no luck whatsoever with using DYNALLOC.
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