Kelman, Tom wrote:
Last year we looked at SAS sub-capacity pricing. What we found out then
is that to get sub-capacity pricing for SAS you need to cut out an LPAR
that runs SAS and hard-cap it. Then they'll charge you for the MSUs
(MIPS) that is assigned to that LPAR. You can't run SAS on any
on other platforms.
Ron
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Kelman, Tom wrote:
Last year we looked at SAS sub
would never want to go back to running SAS on a MF. Some things do run better
on other platforms.
It depends.
I worked in two shops where 'everybody' used SAS.
In that case, one mainframe licence was cheaper than mega-multiple PC licences,
and the data was all shared.
If just your
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would never want to go back to running SAS on a MF. Some things do run
better on other platforms.
It depends.
I worked in two shops where 'everybody' used SAS.
In that case, one mainframe licence
It's not just the cost. The overall usability of the SAS workplace in a GUI
is IMO streets ahead of the 3270 CUA equivalent.
Possibly, but with the CUA it only matters for online.
I admit that most of the work was batch, which beat windows/*NIX
implementations.
But, at one company, we got free
Ted MacNeil said:
SAS is available with sub-capacity licencing options.
Well, maybe for some folks, not for others.
I checked with SAS (in 2006) and was told that their sub-cap license
was only available if you moved your license to a larger machine and
that 50 MSU's was the minimum size. That
On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 09:43:25 EST, Ben Alford pa7...@utkvm1.utk.edu wrote:
Ted MacNeil said:
SAS is available with sub-capacity licencing options.
Well, maybe for some folks, not for others.
I checked with SAS (in 2006) and was told that their sub-cap license
was only available if you moved
, 2009 8:43 AM
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Subject: Cost of SAS
Ted MacNeil said:
SAS is available with sub-capacity licencing options.
Well, maybe for some folks, not for others.
I checked with SAS (in 2006) and was told that their sub-cap license
was only available if you moved your license
Well, maybe for some folks, not for others.
I checked with SAS (in 2006) and was told that their sub-cap license was only
available if you moved your license to a larger machine and
that 50 MSU's was the minimum size.
That was no help for my shop.
Has SAS changed their stance since 2006?
January
You may want to consider the alternative product to SAS, which can leverage
your existing SAS-programmed application code. World Programming's software
called WPS http://teamwpc.co.uk/home may be a suitable
replacement.
The original discussion focused on MXG.
Dr. Barry has/will not certify
On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:01:16 -0600, Hal Merritt hmerr...@jackhenry.com wrote:
Some shops have found it cost effective to put SAS on a 'penalty box'.
That's a CPU purchased expressly to run such products.
HTH and good luck.
No longer required to be a standalone CPU. SAS will negotiate for a
No longer required to be a standalone CPU. SAS will negotiate for a capped
LPAR.
It's not truly a negotiation.
SAS Institute told us what their policy was.
We told them the LPAR weight, where SAS was running, was 35% of the physical
capacity.
They charged us a C licence (110-150 MIPS), instead
Kelman
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Ted
Hal Merritt wrote on 01/21/2009 10:01:16 AM:
Some shops have found it cost effective to put SAS on a 'penalty
box'. That's a CPU purchased expressly to run such products.
By implementing Co:Z, we were able to drop our SAS-Graph license on z/OS
and redirect those executions to run on a cheaper
Last year we looked at SAS sub-capacity pricing. What we found out then is
that to get sub-capacity pricing for SAS you need to cut out an LPAR that runs
SAS and hard-cap it.
We didn't hard-cap it.
We told them what our weights were, and they trusted us (mid-2006).
Of course, I haven't worked
, 2009 10:50 AM
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You may want to consider the alternative product to SAS, which can
leverage your existing SAS-programmed application code. World
Programming's software called WPS http://teamwpc.co.uk/home may be a
suitable
replacement
From what I understand, that is no longer the case. Barry supports running
MXG under WPS.
Okay.
I'm quoting from 3 years ago, and, then, he didn't support it at all.
That's why I said check out his site.
I didn't want to put words in his mouth.
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