Re: India is outsourcing jobs as well

2007-10-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/27/2007 at 10:46 AM, Dave Kopischke [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I don't need to see a movie like this. I get the same feeling reading Dilbert. I start laughing and then realize I live that comic strip and it's not that funny anymore. It's funny *because* it's real.

Re: India is outsourcing jobs as well

2007-09-30 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#39 Inda is outsourcing jobs as well Why Is US Grad School Mainly Non-US Students? http://ask.slashdot.org/askslashdot/07/09/29/2027210.shtml from above: I am a new graduate student in Computer Engineering. I would like to get my MS and possibly my

Re: India is outsourcing jobs as well

2007-09-27 Thread R.S.
Edward Jaffe wrote: Kelman, Tom wrote: I thought this was interesting. What do you guys working in Georgia, Virginia, and Idaho think about being in states which are less developed and when are you going to start working for $1000/year? [...] As far as the numbers go, you couldn't survive

Re: India is outsourcing jobs as well

2007-09-27 Thread Gerhard Adam
As far as the numbers go, you couldn't survive anywhere in the United States on $1000/yr. Heck, the federal minimum wage is currently $5.85/hr which translates to $16,380 if you work 40 hours a week, fifty weeks per year. Here in California, In-N-Out burger (http://www.in-n-out.com/) starts

Re: India is outsourcing jobs as well

2007-09-27 Thread Edward Jaffe
Gerhard Adam wrote: As far as the numbers go, you couldn't survive anywhere in the United States on $1000/yr. Heck, the federal minimum wage is currently $5.85/hr which translates to $16,380 if you work 40 hours a week, fifty weeks per year. Here in California, In-N-Out burger

Re: India is outsourcing jobs as well

2007-09-27 Thread Steve Comstock
Edward Jaffe wrote: Gerhard Adam wrote: As far as the numbers go, you couldn't survive anywhere in the United States on $1000/yr. Heck, the federal minimum wage is currently $5.85/hr which translates to $16,380 if you work 40 hours a week, fifty weeks per year. Here in California, In-N-Out

Re: India is outsourcing jobs as well

2007-09-27 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Whoever did the math below greatly overestimated the minimum wage. 40 X 50 X $5.85 is $11,700, not $16,380. 40 X 50 X $9.50 is $19,000, not $26,600. I should have commented on that yesterday, but when it was quoted again, I couldn't let it go. Eric Bielefeld Sr. z/OS Systems Programmer

Re: India is outsourcing jobs as well

2007-09-27 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 09:30:27 -0600, Steve Comstock wrote: I see in the current New Yorker there is a movie coming out called Outsourced, described as a comedy about a man whose job is outsourced to India and he must go to India to train his replacement. H. Barrel of laughs, I can see. Gee,

Re: India is outsourcing jobs as well

2007-09-27 Thread SRUSASH
India's per capita income may be less than $1,000 a year, but average salary for IT newbie starts at $20,000 and for IT specialist (probably 15+ years with specialization), in India, is 24 lakhs per annum, which translates to $62,500 per annum at the current currency rate with an average of 12

Re: India is outsourcing jobs as well

2007-09-27 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
Edward Jaffe wrote: I have family all over Virginia. Less developed is probably a good thing. It's a beautiful state. Lots of history. There's something very wrong with and/or not being stated in the premise here. They probably need people in the United States because things aren't working

India is outsourcing jobs as well

2007-09-26 Thread Ed Gould
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/25/business/worldbusiness/ 25outsource.html?ex=1191470400en=8186529b6d569c86ei=5070 You may have to register to read the article. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: India is outsourcing jobs as well

2007-09-26 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
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Re: India is outsourcing jobs as well

2007-09-26 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of (IBM Mainframe Discussion List) As Ralph Nader said, it's a race to the bottom. Entropy in action. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: India is outsourcing jobs as well

2007-09-26 Thread Gary D. Maxwell
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Re: India is outsourcing jobs as well

2007-09-26 Thread Kelman, Tom
I thought this was interesting. What do you guys working in Georgia, Virginia, and Idaho think about being in states which are less developed and when are you going to start working for $1000/year? And last month, Wipro said it was opening a software development center in Atlanta that would hire

Re: India is outsourcing jobs as well

2007-09-26 Thread Edward Jaffe
Kelman, Tom wrote: I thought this was interesting. What do you guys working in Georgia, Virginia, and Idaho think about being in states which are less developed and when are you going to start working for $1000/year? I have family all over Virginia. Less developed is probably a good

Re: India is outsourcing jobs as well

2007-09-26 Thread Kirk Talman
Lot's of GA is underdeveloped. But parts rank with anyplace around in development. Go more than 50 mi from ATL core (but not north -- halfbacks there) and you will find resources for less than you can in either us coast. That area also contains one of the largest mainframe datacenters in

Re: India is outsourcing jobs as well

2007-09-26 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Kirk Talman [ snip ] pup in Kennesaw GA Hmmm. Got a Big Iron on yer hip? :-) -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: India is outsourcing jobs as well

2007-09-26 Thread Kirk Talman
It's not Freitag yet but I'll byte. I get ribbed about living in a city that once had a law requiring citizens to own firearms (source of comment below). I rib back noting I commute less than three miles to work. Lasting p*ssing contest here was the city trying to pass a law restricting use