Re: JES2 at DR

2007-05-18 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/10/2007 at 08:16 AM, Lizette Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: If I start JES2 with PARM='COLD,NOFMT' that will cold start the Checkpoint and not format the Spool spaces. You can't do[1] NOFMT unless the online SPOOL volumes are already formatted. You have to format

JES2 at DR

2007-05-10 Thread Lizette Koehler
/online actions. I am thinking the first scenario will force a MINI Format on the JES2 Spool packs and reduce our time getting JES2 up at DR. S JES2,PARM='COLD,NOFMT' $S $SSPL,V=(SPOOL1),FORMAT -- Is this needed? Or is it S JES2,PARM='COLD,NOFMT' -- Mini Format invoked by JES2

Re: JES2 at DR

2007-05-10 Thread Chicklon, Tom
I'm not sure this is that much of an issue anymore. Years ago, in a prior life, probably while running MVS/XA, our DR plan called for allocating only one spool volume before the first IPL because the format during the cold start took such a long time. After the IPL, we would allocate the rest of

Re: JES2 at DR

2007-05-10 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler We are running z/OS V1.7 Simple question. If I start JES2 with PARM='COLD,NOFMT' that will cold start the Checkpoint and not format the Spool spaces. Then after that finishes do I

Re: JES2 at DR

2007-05-10 Thread Lizette Koehler
Ah, all good points. But my query is now leaning towards having a clean spool at DR without the headaches. So is my assumption correct? If the checkpoint/spool space that is restored from Full Volume Dumps has a S JES2,PARM='COLD,NOFMT' that JES2 would invoke a MINI format (QUICK Format) rather

Re: JES2 at DR

2007-05-10 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 10 May 2007 08:50:34 -0400, Lizette Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So is my assumption correct? If the checkpoint/spool space that is restored from Full Volume Dumps has a S JES2,PARM='COLD,NOFMT' that JES2 would invoke a MINI format (QUICK Format) rather than a full blown format

Re: JES2 at DR

2007-05-10 Thread Chicklon, Tom
I think you are going to need someone who restores their spool volumes at DR to answer this one. We just INIT the volumes and allocate the spool space from the DR floor system while the other restore jobs are running; we don't restore the spool volumes. Tom Chicklon

Re: JES2 at DR

2007-05-10 Thread Hal Merritt
@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: JES2 at DR I think you are going to need someone who restores their spool volumes at DR to answer this one. We just INIT the volumes and allocate the spool space from the DR floor system while the other restore jobs are running; we don't restore the spool volumes. Tom

Re: JES2 at DR

2007-05-10 Thread Lizette Koehler
Thanks, That answers the question. Lizette Yea, I never have figured out why DASD folks love doing volume restores only to reformat the volume. I guess it might be easier that trying to keep track of all those allocation jobs. My experience with six 3390-3 volumes is just a couple of minutes to

Re: JES2 at DR

2007-05-10 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
don't think there is enough data on the tape to produce a formatted dataset. -Original Message- From: Lizette Koehler [mailto:snip] Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 5:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: JES2 at DR Ah, all good points. But my query is now leaning towards having

Re: JES2 at DR

2007-05-10 Thread Rick Fochtman
would not need to document the vary offline/online actions. I am thinking the first scenario will force a MINI Format on the JES2 Spool packs and reduce our time getting JES2 up at DR. S JES2,PARM='COLD,NOFMT' $S $SSPOOL1),FORMAT -- Is this needed? Or is it S JES2,PARM='COLD,NOFMT

Re: JES2 at DR

2007-05-10 Thread Rick Fochtman
snip-- Ah, all good points. But my query is now leaning towards having a clean spool at DR without the headaches. So is my assumption correct? If the checkpoint/spool space that is restored from Full Volume Dumps has a S JES2,PARM='COLD,NOFMT' that