Re: Job class enforcement was Re: IEFC603I PROCLIB DEVICE I/O ERROR READING F...

2007-03-29 Thread Clark Morris
.EDU >> Subject: Re: Job class enforcement was Re: IEFC603I PROCLIB >> DEVICE I/O ERROR READING F... >> >> >> >> One reason - the job's submitter may be trying to run his work at >> > lower cost >> > than the correct job class would cost, as

Re: Job class enforcement was Re: IEFC603I PROCLIB DEVICE I/O ERROR READING F...

2007-03-29 Thread Howard Brazee
On 29 Mar 2007 10:41:40 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) wrote: >>If people are doing that, then your charge back policies should be >>reviewed. NOT, what the user is doing to get their job done. > >The users' jobs include following company policies. That is correct.But as

Re: Job class enforcement was Re: IEFC603I PROCLIB DEVICE I/O ERROR READING F...

2007-03-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, "(IBM Mainframe Discussion List)" said: > Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 15:41:14 EDT > > charge-back policy is in effect. I heard long ago about a user who was > printing free > copies of a large document by submitting the document as comment statements > with a deliberate JCL erro

Re: Job class enforcement was Re: IEFC603I PROCLIB DEVICE I/O ERROR READING F...

2007-03-28 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>I can hijack a C initiator to get my work done and to with the other >programmers!", shouldn't I, as the system administrator, make sure that the programmer doesn't get away with it? We are talking a matter of degree. If one programmer/user is doing it, fine, remediation includes everything up

Re: Job class enforcement was Re: IEFC603I PROCLIB DEVICE I/O ERROR READING F...

2007-03-28 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:15 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Job class enforcement was Re: IEFC603I PROCLIB > DEVIC

Re: Job class enforcement was Re: IEFC603I PROCLIB DEVICE I/O ERROR READING F...

2007-03-28 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 3/28/2007 3:14:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >If you have draconian policies, users will perform unusual acts to get around it. Too true. And the policies don't even have to be draconian. This is normal human behavior. As many lawyers know,

Re: Job class enforcement was Re: IEFC603I PROCLIB DEVICE I/O ERROR READING F...

2007-03-28 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>> One reason - the job's submitter may be trying to run his work at > lower cost > than the correct job class would cost, assuming a job-class-based > charge-back policy is in effect. If people are doing that, then your charge back policies should be reviewed. NOT, what the user is doing to ge

Re: Job class enforcement was Re: IEFC603I PROCLIB DEVICE I/O ERROR READING F...

2007-03-28 Thread Ed Gould
On Mar 28, 2007, at 2:41 PM, (IBM Mainframe Discussion List) wrote: In a message dated 3/28/2007 2:29:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why verify and fail when the system can just make it what it should be this week? How is productivity helped. One reason - the job

Re: Job class enforcement was Re: IEFC603I PROCLIB DEVICE I/O ERROR READING F...

2007-03-28 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 3/28/2007 2:29:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Why verify and fail when the system can just make it what it should be this week? How is productivity helped. One reason - the job's submitter may be trying to run his work at lower cost than the