Re: MIPS /day

2008-08-15 Thread Kelman, Tom
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: MIPS /day IBM doesn't use MIPS Actually, they do. I have an old slide chart from IBM Canada, where a 3090-200E is 31.5 'processing units'. - Too busy driving to stop for gas

Re: MIPS /day

2008-08-15 Thread Kelman, Tom
Posted By: John Kim Thursday, August 14, 2008 10:54 AM I also had a same issue when my client wanted to know, how much horse power was being used by his application, and no such standard tool I could find out there. Instead I used the following formula; CPUTIME / (ACTUAL INTERVAL

Re: MIPS /day

2008-08-15 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 8/15/2008 8:45:12 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually, I don't think IBM officially publishes MIPS figures for its new machine. They use either the LSPR values based on workload type or MSUs for software pricing. Other entities (Isham

Re: MIPS /day

2008-08-15 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Ted, Wow, that is old. The IBM 3090 is from back in the 80s. That's a life time in the computer world. Actually, I don't think IBM officially publishes MIPS figures for its new machine. They use either the LSPR values based on workload type or MSUs for software pricing. I realise it's

Re: MIPS /day

2008-08-15 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 08:44:59 -0500, Kelman, Tom wrote: ... Actually, I don't think IBM officially publishes MIPS figures for its new machine. Maybe not, but... http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=tss1td103411 -- Tom Marchant

Re: MIPS /day

2008-08-15 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 8/15/2008 9:26:45 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I realise it's old, but I've had salesmen talk in MIPS even after that. And I have heard technical people who know better continue to use the term channel-unit address, CUU, or device address when

Re: MIPS /day

2008-08-15 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:26:26 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: I realise it's old, but I've had salesmen talk in MIPS even after that. Ha! That's a reference for technical information? -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: MIPS /day

2008-08-15 Thread Martin Kline
Did anyone actually answer the OP? All I saw was sarcasm and topic drift. First, there are many tools that show CPU consumption. Consumption data is stored in SMF interval records, and can be seen live using SDSF, Omegamon, Tmon, RMF, and other tools. So, look at SDSF and RMF, which you

MIPS /day

2008-08-14 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi MIPS topic again: One of our customer has reported that our (long runing) server application is using 500 MIPS /day. How to understand this, and is there any standard tool to generate a report like this(i.e how many MIPS has used ) -- Miklos Szigetvari Development Team ISIS Information

Re: MIPS /day

2008-08-14 Thread R.S.
Miklos Szigetvari wrote: Hi MIPS topic again: One of our customer has reported that our (long runing) server application is using 500 MIPS /day. How to understand this, and is there any standard tool to generate a report like this(i.e how many MIPS has used ) I understand

Re: MIPS /day

2008-08-14 Thread Ian S. Worthington
instructions/time/time? That's acceleration. Either they've got a very serious problem or its not being reported properly. i -- Original Message -- Received: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:13:00 AM BST From: Miklos Szigetvari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: MIPS /day Hi

Re: MIPS /day

2008-08-14 Thread Bob Shannon
One of our customer has reported that our (long runing) server application is using 500 MIPS /day. How to understand this, and is there any standard tool to generate a report like this(i.e how many MIPS has used ) IBM doesn't use MIPS, so if you feel MIPS is a valid measurement you will have

Re: MIPS /day

2008-08-14 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Mips/Day? Is this a short way to tell A mips a day keep the upgrade away?\\Itschak On 8/14/08, Ian S. Worthington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: instructions/time/time? That's acceleration. Either they've got a very serious problem or its not being reported properly. i -- Original Message

Re: MIPS /day

2008-08-14 Thread Ted MacNEIL
IBM doesn't use MIPS Actually, they do. I have an old slide chart from IBM Canada, where a 3090-200E is 31.5 'processing units'. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: MIPS /day

2008-08-14 Thread Thomas Kern
is using 500 MIPS /day. How to understand this, and is there any standard tool to generate a report like this(i.e how many MIPS has used ) -- Miklos Szigetvari -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Re: MIPS /day

2008-08-14 Thread John Kim
I also had a same issue when my client wanted to know, how much horse power was being used by his application, and no such standard tool I could find out there. Instead I used the following formula; CPUTIME / (ACTUAL INTERVAL DURATION * NUMBER OF CPS) * TOTAL MIPS

Re: MIPS /day

2008-08-14 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 8/14/2008 10:50:44 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I also had a same issue when my client wanted to know, how much horse power was being used by his application, and no such standard tool I could find out there. Instead I used the following

Re: MIPS /day

2008-08-14 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Instead I used the following formula; CPUTIME / (ACTUAL INTERVAL DURATION * NUMBER OF CPS) * TOTAL MIPS Unfortunately, not all of the CPU consumed by a task is collected. These days about 80-85% is reported. Highly swappable work has a lower ratio. So, you can only be relative to a given task

Re: MIPS /day

2008-08-14 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 8/14/2008 10:54:21 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And this computation results in some number of foot-pounds per second? lol More closer to stone furlongs per fortnight...tie the galvanometer to the dynamometer and divide by Pi R**2Guess

Re: MIPS /day

2008-08-14 Thread Rick Fochtman
snip- MIPS topic again: One of our customer has reported that our (long runing) server application is using 500 MIPS /day.How to understand this, and is there any standard tool to generate a report like this(i.e how many MIPS has

Re: MIPS /day

2008-08-14 Thread Ron Hawkins
: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] MIPS /day Instead I used the following formula; CPUTIME / (ACTUAL INTERVAL DURATION * NUMBER OF CPS) * TOTAL MIPS Unfortunately, not all of the CPU consumed by a task is collected. These days about 80-85

Re: MIPS /day

2008-08-14 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Ted, I think a lot of that uncaptured time for addresses with a lot of DW and LW swapping was mitigated when RCT time was added into CPUTM (using MXG parlance). There is still a portion missing. It used to cost about 800 instructions to measure an event (approximately). So, some events are not

Re: MIPS /day

2008-08-14 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
: Rick Fochtman [mailto:snip] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 9:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: MIPS /day snip- MIPS topic again: One of our customer has reported that our (long runing) server application is using 500 MIPS

Re: MIPS /day

2008-08-14 Thread Ron Hawkins
Ted, Isn't RCT time a clock duration measured the same way as TCB and SRB time and accumulated in the RCT Time bucket? Ron There is still a portion missing. It used to cost about 800 instructions to measure an event (approximately). So, some events are not worth measuring. -

Re: MIPS /day

2008-08-14 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Isn't RCT time a clock duration measured the same way as TCB and SRB time and accumulated in the RCT Time bucket? I honestly cannot remember. Regardless, not all CPU consumed is measured. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! --