MXI 4.3 (was Re: SMP/E question - how to find dsname ?)

2007-07-17 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 09:49:27 -0400, Rob Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I mean by frozen is that there will be no future enhancements to MXI 4.3 and over time I expect some commands to either stop functioning or start abending. Too bad. I though you had planned to at least fix things that

Re: MXI 4.3 (was Re: SMP/E question - how to find dsname ?)

2007-07-17 Thread Rob Scott
@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: MXI 4.3 (was Re: SMP/E question - how to find dsname ?) On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 09:49:27 -0400, Rob Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I mean by frozen is that there will be no future enhancements to MXI 4.3 and over time I expect some commands to either stop functioning or start

Re: [BULK] Re: MXI 4.3 (was Re: SMP/E question - how to find dsname ?)

2007-07-17 Thread Jon Brock
Egad, that's a stressful life. I don't think I could take that for very long. My sympathy to you. Jon snip . . . these days my working day starts at about 9am and finishes about midnight. /snip -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: [BULK] Re: MXI 4.3 (was Re: SMP/E question - how to find dsname ?)

2007-07-17 Thread Rob Scott
Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Brock Sent: 17 July 2007 16:20 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [BULK] Re: MXI 4.3 (was Re: SMP/E question - how to find dsname ?) Egad, that's a stressful life. I don't think I could take that for very long. My sympathy to you

Re: [BULK] Re: MXI 4.3 (was Re: SMP/E question - how to find dsname ?)

2007-07-17 Thread Jim McAlpine
Street Newton, MA 02466 617-614-2305 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Brock Sent: 17 July 2007 16:20 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [BULK] Re: MXI 4.3 (was Re: SMP/E question - how to find dsname

Re: [BULK] Re: MXI 4.3 (was Re: SMP/E question - how to find dsname ?)

2007-07-17 Thread Rob Scott
: [BULK] Re: MXI 4.3 (was Re: SMP/E question - how to find dsname ?) You mean you've still go a wife :-) Jim McAlpine On 7/17/07, Rob Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Such is life when you work for a US-based company and you work from home in the UK. Gieb all that, my wife still thinks I enjoy

Re: MXI 4.3 (was Re: SMP/E question - how to find dsname ?)

2007-07-17 Thread Rick Fochtman
snip I did not say that MXI 4.3 users would be stranded if something breaks - it is just that I *really* do not have the resources and time to guarantee to fix any problems that may occur. In the old days I was a sysprog and would come home at 6pm

Re: MXI 4.3 (was Re: SMP/E question - how to find dsname ?)

2007-07-17 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 10:49:12 -0400, Rob Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark, I did not say that MXI 4.3 users would be stranded if something breaks - Not in black and white, but you seemed to imply it by your statement: over time I expect some commands to either stop functioning or start

Re: MXI 4.3 (was Re: SMP/E question - how to find dsname ?)

2007-07-17 Thread Rob Scott
] -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman Sent: 17 July 2007 16:29 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: MXI 4.3 (was Re: SMP/E question - how to find dsname ?) snip I did

Re: MXI 4.3 (was Re: SMP/E question - how to find dsname ?)

2007-07-17 Thread Eric Bielefeld
, Wisconsin 414-475-7434 - Original Message - From: Rob Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 9:49 AM Subject: Re: MXI 4.3 (was Re: SMP/E question - how to find dsname ?) Mark, I did not say that MXI 4.3 users would

Re: MXI 4.3 (was Re: SMP/E question - how to find dsname ?)

2007-07-17 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 10:55:25 -0500 Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 10:49:12 -0400, Rob Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :Mark, :I did not say that MXI 4.3 users would be stranded if something breaks - :Not in black and white, but you seemed to imply it by your

Re: MXI 4.3 (was Re: SMP/E question - how to find dsname ?)

2007-07-17 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:00:20 -0400, Rob Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick, I have been bitten by giving out source code for free - and it left a very sour taste. A few years ago I happened to get hold of a few copies of MVS Update and lo and behold some person had ripped off most of the

Re: MXI 4.3 (was Re: SMP/E question - how to find dsname ?)

2007-07-17 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jon Brock Egad, that's a stressful life. I don't think I could take that for very long. My sympathy to you. Jon snip . . . these days my working day starts at about 9am and finishes about midnight.

Re: MXI 4.3 (was Re: SMP/E question - how to find dsname ?)

2007-07-17 Thread Rob Scott
: SMP/E question - how to find dsname ?) On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 10:49:12 -0400, Rob Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark, I did not say that MXI 4.3 users would be stranded if something breaks - Not in black and white, but you seemed to imply it by your statement: over time I expect some commands

Re: MXI 4.3 (was Re: SMP/E question - how to find dsname ?)

2007-07-17 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:57:45 -0400, Rob Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is how I currently see it (and this is not the official Rocket position - just my own opinions) : (1) If something critical breaks in MXI 4.3 that would leave loads of people stranded, I would do my best to fix ASAP. I

Re: MXI 4.3 (was Re: SMP/E question - how to find dsname ?)

2007-07-17 Thread Howard Brazee
On 17 Jul 2007 09:00:49 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: I have been bitten by giving out source code for free - and it left a very sour taste. A few years ago I happened to get hold of a few copies of MVS Update and lo and behold some person had ripped off most of the programs from

Re: MXI 4.3 (was Re: SMP/E question - how to find dsname ?)

2007-07-17 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Brazee Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 12:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: MXI 4.3 (was Re: SMP/E question - how to find dsname ?) On 17 Jul 2007 09:00:49 -0700

Re: MXI 4.3 (was Re: SMP/E question - how to find dsname ?)

2007-07-17 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Brazee Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 12:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: MXI 4.3 (was Re: SMP/E question - how to find dsname ?) On 17 Jul 2007 09:00:49 -0700

Re: MXI 4.3 (was Re: SMP/E question - how to find dsname ?)

2007-07-17 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 11:18:45 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote: I too have been bitten, but I guess that is part of the chance you take when contributing. Though it's apples and oranges - none of the code on my web site and CBT is worth much more than the electrons it is written on. Mark -- I disagree.

Re: MXI 4.3 (was Re: SMP/E question - how to find dsname ?)

2007-07-17 Thread Dan D
Dave Kopischke wrote: On the other hand, if a company like Xephon is acquiring and publishing code reported to be obtained by less-than-honorable methods, it is obligated to investigate the complaint and take action to address it. Xephon relies on mainframe users for its existence. Customer

Re: MXI 4.3 (was Re: SMP/E question - how to find dsname ?)

2007-07-17 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:31:09 -0400, Thompson, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People can steal anything. If you had charged for it, they could still have stolen it. There are some things that we should include with all free code - in the nature of specifying the rights of those who use it.