Your advice is worth what he paid for it. Perhaps your post would be more
helpful if you told us what reasons you considered to draw your conclusion.
My objection, and reason for using an EDIT macro, is the integrity of the ISPF
statistics. A limited yet still useful audit trail.
On Fri, 3 Aug
In
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on 07/24/2007
at 09:13 AM, Earnie Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I am in need of a fairly straightforward method of turning a PDS into
a flat file (for modifications) and then back into a PDS.
I would advise against that approach.
Some assistance/suggestions, please?
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 07:08:52 -0500, John P Kalinich wrote:
Note: ./ in the input members is translated to in the output.
That's valuable. How do they deal with occurring in
the input? Etc.
PDS uses the OFFLOAD program from CBT file 093. It only translates ./ if
it is in cc 1-2. The
-- gil of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on
07/26/2007 09:53:37 AM:
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 07:08:52 -0500, John P Kalinich wrote:
Note: ./ in the input members is translated to in the output.
That's valuable. How do they deal with occurring in
the input?
-- gil from the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote
on 07/25/2007 02:25:45 PM:
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 13:28:35 -0500, John P Kalinich wrote:
The OFFLOAD subcommand offloads members of a PDS to a member of
a PDS or a sequential data set. An IEBUPDTE ./ ADD NAME=
control
Ahhh FileAid ... I remember when we had that one. Not that INSYNC
isn't a good product, but
Hmmm.. well it sure helped me at 0500 .. Fileaid burped with an S0c4
fix. I had to globally change a JCL library to get production out.
I put in a call to Compuware and had a fix in 15 minutes
I have a REXX which builds a member list and uses EXECIO to write each
member preceded by a ./ADD card for IEBUPDTE.
After the flat file is edited, simply use IEBUPDTE to add the members back
to the PDS using the flat file as input.
I can post the source or email it to the OP.
On 7/24/07,
We have PDSMAN in-shop, but I do not believe I can use it for this
particular change because not only is the ACCT info different in most
cases, but also because there does not now exist any standard ACCT field
info to key on and do the replace. Thus the need for the project ... not
only complete
A real oldie but goodie is the famous LISTPDS assembler program written
by Gene Czarcinski of NASA Goddard Space Flight Center in the early 70s for
the 360/95 when he was its system programmer. Bill Godfrey, my former
office mate at PRC at Goddard back in the 70s, added some nice
enhancements.
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 13:28:35 -0500, John P Kalinich wrote:
The OFFLOAD subcommand offloads members of a PDS to a member of
a PDS or a sequential data set. An IEBUPDTE ./ ADD NAME=
control statement is added before each output member and ISPF
statistics are included for use by the PDSLOAD program
On Jul 25, 2007, at 5:37 PM, Kenneth E Tomiak wrote:
--SNIP---
Consider what the requirement is. Someone trying to mass edit a
bunch of
members has a hard time convincing me an outage from using a free
method
to make multiple changes requires a
Earnie Allen wrote:
We have PDSMAN in-shop, but I do not believe I can use it for this
particular change because not only is the ACCT info different in most
cases, but also because there does not now exist any standard ACCT field
info to key on and do the replace. Thus the need for the project
William Smith of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
wrote on 07/25/2007 12:55:12 PM:
Also, and I'm not sure if it's in the free version of PDSTOOLS - but I
know
it's in StarTool from Serena, there is a subcommand SEPARATE that will
(and quoting the manual) . . . splits a
On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 22:40:32 -0500, Ed Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Jul 24, 2007, at 10:04 PM, Kenneth E Tomiak wrote:
Yea but are they supported 24x7 ? Or do you get a response well maybe
in the next few weeks I will get a chance to look at it etc.
Cost is not important when you have a
I am in need of a fairly straightforward method of turning a PDS into a
flat file (for modifications) and then back into a PDS. Having the
original ISPF stats present in the final PDS is not necessarily a critical
part of the process for us --- nice, but not absolutely necessary.
I have an REXX
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I am in need of a fairly straightforward method of turning a
PDS
Earnie Allen of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
wrote on 07/24/2007 08:13:55 AM:
I am in need of a fairly straightforward method of turning a PDS into a
flat file (for modifications) and then back into a PDS. Having the
original ISPF stats present in the final PDS is
Depending on what you need to change, couldn't you accomplish the
changes using IPOUPDTE/CPPUPDATE?
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I am in need of a fairly straightforward method of turning a PDS into a
flat file (for modifications) and then back into a PDS. Having the
original ISPF stats present
In a message dated 7/24/2007 9:14:11 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The simpliest way that I know of is to use SAS and PROC SOURCE. That can
unload a PDS to a sequential file and put IEBUPDTE control cards (or
other control cards) between members. You then edit the
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In a message dated 7/24/2007 9:14:11 A.M. Central Daylight Time
Getting lots of suggestions/ideas. Gonna take me a bit to sort them out.
My situation is that I need to take current production JCLlib(s) and modify
the ACCT info in each not the same change to all jobcards.
So ... turn the current JCLLIB PDS into a flat file ... run a (yet to be
written)
On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 12:08:43 -0400, Earnie Allen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Getting lots of suggestions/ideas. Gonna take me a bit to sort them out.
My situation is that I need to take current production JCLlib(s) and modify
the ACCT info in each not the same change to all jobcards.
Then
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I am in need of a fairly straightforward method of turning a PDS into a
flat file (for modifications) and then back into a PDS. Having the
original ISPF stats present in the final PDS is not necessarily a
critical part of the process for us ---
What does that REVIEW command processor do?
Earnie Allen
Senior Systems Programmer
MVS Systems Software
WORLDSPAN, LP
Phone: 404-322-2799 FAX: 404-322-4653
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Remember: It takes teamwork to make the dream work.
That PDS86 solution looks great ... if only all our production jobs had a
standard ACCT field/info in them already!!! But, alas, that's what this
process is intended to do.
Earnie Allen
Senior Systems Programmer
MVS Systems Software
WORLDSPAN, LP
Phone: 404-322-2799 FAX: 404-322-4653
E-Mail:
On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 12:36:06 -0400, Earnie Allen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That PDS86 solution looks great ... if only all our production jobs had a
standard ACCT field/info in them already!!! But, alas, that's what this
process is intended to do.
As I said... if it is more complicated than a
My situation is that I need to take current production JCLlib(s) and modify
the ACCT info in each not the same change to all jobcards.
IIRC, the PDS command from the CBT can do that.
I seem to remember doing something similar a long time ago.
So, I would copy the JCLLIB, make the
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I have CBT471.FILE093 and it contains OFFLOADW and PDSLOADW.
That basically the same?
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Try this:
1. Use the REVIEW command processor from the CBT tape, with the OFFLOAD
subcommand, to create the flat file.
2. Do whatever edit(s) you need to do.
3.
Earnie Allen of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
wrote on 07/24/2007 12:53:14 PM:
I have CBT471.FILE093 and it contains OFFLOADW and PDSLOADW.
That basically the same?
Yes, the W suffix was added to the source code member to denote wide
record (80 bytes) support. You
I have found copies in-shop of OFFLMOD and REVLMOD (from File134, I would
imagine) and they have fairly recent linkedit dates.
Perhaps these will assist in the project.
Earnie Allen
Senior Systems Programmer
MVS Systems Software
WORLDSPAN, LP
Phone: 404-322-2799 FAX: 404-322-4653
E-Mail:
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What does that REVIEW command processor do?
---unsnip--
It's basically a PDS browser, started from a command line.
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I have found copies in-shop of OFFLMOD and REVLMOD (from File134, I would
imagine) and they have fairly recent linkedit dates.
Perhaps these will assist in the project.
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Only if you're processing load
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Earnie Allen wrote:
I am in need of a fairly straightforward method of turning a PDS into a
flat file (for modifications) and then back into a PDS. Having the
original ISPF stats present in the final PDS is not necessarily a critical
part of the process for us --- nice, but not absolutely
On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 21:28:56 -0400, WalterR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have an REXX exec that does the process, but it is not set up to run as a
batch job. Would that it were ... sigh.
I have come across the CBT FILE093 solution(s) --- but, there appear to be
many varieties.
Some
On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:53:14 -0400, Earnie Allen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1. Use the REVIEW command processor from the CBT tape, with the OFFLOAD
subcommand, to create the flat file.
2. Do whatever edit(s) you need to do.
3. Use the PDSLOAD batch processor, also from the CBT tape, to
On Jul 24, 2007, at 10:04 PM, Kenneth E Tomiak wrote:
Not interested. There are many solutions out there that can effect
a change
to every member in a PDS and most are FREE.
Yea but are they supported 24x7 ? Or do you get a response well maybe
in the next few weeks I will get a
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