Re: Product availability on 3592

2005-10-18 Thread Mike Baldwin
At a recent presentation by Jim Elliott of IBM (IBM System z9, z/OS and z/VM, 2005-09-15), the direction was stated that software shipment on tape will cease in Sept. 2006. Here is an excerpt from a slide: z/OS Statements of Direction Reducing ordering interfaces and delivery mechanisms – SMP/E

Re: Product availability on 3592

2005-10-17 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of ibm-main [ snip ] Like most things CA do with regard to service, it's half baked. Is that anything like half fast? :-) -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: Product availability on 3592

2005-10-17 Thread ibm-main
Like most things CA do with regard to service, it's half baked. Is that anything like half fast? :-) I've heard something like that - must be your accent :o) Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: Product availability on 3592

2005-10-17 Thread Johnston, Robert E
Floor space may be a bigger issue than money here. I know part of the space that will be freed up has already been promised to the server side. It will allow them to spread racks right on up the wall from where they are now. You're right we already own the 3480s. If it were up to me, I'd drop

Re: Product availability on 3592

2005-10-15 Thread R.S.
Johnston, Robert E wrote: Hello, We recently converted to virtual tape and 3592. Now mgt is itching to get the 3480s off the floor. My question is, do vendors (IBM and CA mostly) offer products on 3592 format or are we going to have problems if we get rid of the 3480 drives and try to order new

Re: Product availability on 3592

2005-10-14 Thread Bruce Black
I went to IBM link, SRD and found these delivery options: ELEC - Electronic delivery INET - Delivery to an internet server 1600 - Tape 1600 6250 - Tape 6250 anyone tried to order a 1600 BPI round tape lately? I wonder if IBM can really produce it?? -- Bruce A. Black Senior

Re: Product availability on 3592

2005-10-14 Thread Alan C. Field
I had an accident and selected the wrong media about a month ago. I got a round tape but I don't know what density - nothing to read it on. I went to IBM link, SRD and found these delivery options: ELEC - Electronic delivery INET - Delivery to an internet server 1600 - Tape 1600

Re: Product availability on 3592

2005-10-14 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 10/14/2005 9:47:58 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I had an accident and selected the wrong media about a month ago. I got a round tape but I don't know what density - nothing to read it on. Was it an FDP or IUP?

Re: Product availability on 3592

2005-10-14 Thread Alan C. Field
Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject Re: Product availability on 3592 In a message dated 10/14/2005 9:47:58 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I had an accident and selected the wrong media about a month ago. I got a round tape

Re: Product availability on 3592

2005-10-14 Thread Bruce Black
A PTF I ordered - wanted it INTERNET but the little drop down got scrolled before I realised and lo and behold a round tape showed up a day or two later. Probably the first one they had generated in months -- Bruce A. Black Senior Software Developer for FDR Innovation Data Processing

Re: Product availability on 3592

2005-10-14 Thread Russell Witt
Shane, For CA, it is on a product-by-product basis. If the product is defined to have pre-req's chained they will be. I know that both CA-1 and TLMS allow that a solution plus it's CHAIN can be downloaded as a single zip file. The trick is that you have to check the box called Do you want a

Re: Product availability on 3592

2005-10-14 Thread ibm-main
Yeah, sorry Russell - I normally put in a disclaimer about CA-1. It's good - has been for donkeys years. Once you (royal plural, not Russ in particular) got the concept of hooks out of the mix, things improved markedly. I recently had a dummy spit with one of the other CA teams re support - the

Product availability on 3592

2005-10-13 Thread Johnston, Robert E
Hello, We recently converted to virtual tape and 3592. Now mgt is itching to get the 3480s off the floor. My question is, do vendors (IBM and CA mostly) offer products on 3592 format or are we going to have problems if we get rid of the 3480 drives and try to order new software? I know there are

Re: Product availability on 3592

2005-10-13 Thread Alan C. Field
I went to IBM link, SRD and found these delivery options: ELEC - Electronic delivery INET - Delivery to an internet server 1600 - Tape 1600 6250 - Tape 6250 3480 - Cartridge 3480 3590 - IBM Magstar Tape Subsystem C4MM - 4 millimeter cartridge

Re: Product availability on 3592

2005-10-13 Thread Porowski, Ken
Considering the cost of a 3592 cartridge I would be surprised if many vendors offer it as an option. What I do see a lot more of is CD's and electronic transfer. Depending on local Tax laws an electronic transfer (i.e. NO physical media) may exempt you from sales tax. Ken Porowski AVP Systems

Re: Product availability on 3592

2005-10-13 Thread ibm-main
My major customer recently went through similar - but with STK. Exacerbates the issue. All the old stand-alone kit came off support, and was returned to the vendor. But 2 new (as in refurb'd) drives were purchased to handle 3480/90 carts - these are located at the main site (only), where real live