At a recent presentation by Jim Elliott of IBM
(IBM System z9, z/OS and z/VM, 2005-09-15),
the direction was stated that software shipment
on tape will cease in Sept. 2006.
Here is an excerpt from a slide:
z/OS Statements of Direction
Reducing ordering interfaces and delivery mechanisms
SMP/E
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Like most things CA do with regard to service, it's half baked.
Is that anything like half fast? :-)
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Like most things CA do with regard to service, it's half baked.
Is that anything like half fast? :-)
I've heard something like that - must be your accent :o)
Shane ...
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Floor space may be a bigger issue than money here. I know part of the space
that will be freed up has already been promised to the server side. It will
allow them to spread racks right on up the wall from where they are now.
You're right we already own the 3480s. If it were up to me, I'd drop
Johnston, Robert E wrote:
Hello,
We recently converted to virtual tape and 3592. Now mgt is itching to
get the 3480s off the floor. My question is, do vendors (IBM and CA
mostly) offer products on 3592 format or are we going to have problems
if we get rid of the 3480 drives and try to order new
I went to IBM link, SRD and found these delivery options:
ELEC - Electronic delivery
INET - Delivery to an internet server
1600 - Tape 1600
6250 - Tape 6250
anyone tried to order a 1600 BPI round tape lately? I wonder if IBM can
really produce it??
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I had an accident and selected the wrong media about a month ago.
I got a round tape but I don't know what density - nothing to read it on.
I went to IBM link, SRD and found these delivery options:
ELEC - Electronic delivery
INET - Delivery to an internet server
1600 - Tape 1600
In a message dated 10/14/2005 9:47:58 A.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I had an accident and selected the wrong media about a month ago.
I got a round tape but I don't know what density - nothing to read it on.
Was it an FDP or IUP?
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In a message dated 10/14/2005 9:47:58 A.M. Central Standard Time,
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I had an accident and selected the wrong media about a month ago.
I got a round tape
A PTF I ordered - wanted it INTERNET but the little drop down got scrolled
before I realised
and lo and behold a round tape showed up a day or two later.
Probably the first one they had generated in months
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Bruce A. Black
Senior Software Developer for FDR
Innovation Data Processing
Shane,
For CA, it is on a product-by-product basis. If the product is defined to
have pre-req's chained they will be. I know that both CA-1 and TLMS allow
that a solution plus it's CHAIN can be downloaded as a single zip file.
The trick is that you have to check the box called Do you want a
Yeah, sorry Russell - I normally put in a disclaimer about CA-1.
It's good - has been for donkeys years.
Once you (royal plural, not Russ in particular) got the concept of hooks
out of the mix, things improved markedly.
I recently had a dummy spit with one of the other CA teams re support -
the
Hello,
We recently converted to virtual tape and 3592. Now mgt is itching to
get the 3480s off the floor. My question is, do vendors (IBM and CA
mostly) offer products on 3592 format or are we going to have problems
if we get rid of the 3480 drives and try to order new software? I know
there are
I went to IBM link, SRD and found these delivery options:
ELEC - Electronic delivery
INET - Delivery to an internet server
1600 - Tape 1600
6250 - Tape 6250
3480 - Cartridge 3480
3590 - IBM Magstar Tape Subsystem
C4MM - 4 millimeter cartridge
Considering the cost of a 3592 cartridge I would be surprised if many vendors
offer it as an option.
What I do see a lot more of is CD's and electronic transfer.
Depending on local Tax laws an electronic transfer (i.e. NO physical media) may
exempt you from sales tax.
Ken Porowski
AVP Systems
My major customer recently went through similar - but with STK. Exacerbates
the issue.
All the old stand-alone kit came off support, and was returned to the
vendor. But 2 new (as in refurb'd) drives were purchased to handle 3480/90
carts - these are located at the main site (only), where real live
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