Re: Question On Space Allocation

2008-04-12 Thread Gilbert Cardenas
We also resolved large allocations requests from DB2 as well as TMM tape requests which can get fairly high by filtering those datasets and assigning them a special dataclass as David suggested. As a sidebar, does anyone use anything higher than a mod 9 volume to allow for these higher

Re: Question On Space Allocation

2008-04-12 Thread John McKown
On Sat, 12 Apr 2008, Gilbert Cardenas wrote: We also resolved large allocations requests from DB2 as well as TMM tape requests which can get fairly high by filtering those datasets and assigning them a special dataclass as David suggested. As a sidebar, does anyone use anything higher

Re: Question On Space Allocation

2008-04-11 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
Poster: willie bunter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Question On Space Allocation --- Good Day To All, My question is regarding the allocation of space on a given storage group which has 218 volumes. The job

Re: Question On Space Allocation

2008-04-11 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Subject: Question On Space Allocation Good Day To All, My question is regarding the allocation of space on a given storage group which has 218 volumes. The job failed, due to a IGD17279I 218 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT SPACE (041A041D) To resolve the problem

Re: Question On Space Allocation

2008-04-11 Thread Terry Sambrooks
Hi, To be able to fix the SPACE problem it would be useful to know what is causing the problem. Allocating a smaller primary may not work because the space allocation routine may allocate the primary request in up to 5 extents if CONTIG is not specified. This would only leave 11 extents on the

Re: Question On Space Allocation

2008-04-11 Thread willie bunter
elsewhere. From: willie bunter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri 4/11/2008 9:31 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Question On Space Allocation Good Day To All, My question is regarding the allocation of space on a given storage group which has 218 volumes

Re: Question On Space Allocation

2008-04-11 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
Noticed that LRECL is specified, RECFM FB, but no BLKSIZE. Does that default to 1 record per block? Mighty wasteful. Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Information Communications Technology Crawford Company 4680 N. Royal Atlanta Tucker GA 30084 phone: 770-621-3256 fax:

Question On Space Allocation

2008-04-11 Thread willie bunter
Good Day To All, My question is regarding the allocation of space on a given storage group which has 218 volumes. The job failed, due to a IGD17279I 218 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT SPACE (041A041D) To resolve the problem I added 2 disks (3390-9) as a quick

Re: Question On Space Allocation

2008-04-11 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
volume. From: willie bunter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri 4/11/2008 9:53 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question On Space Allocation David, Thanks for the suggestion. For my better understanding, Zos will attempt to satisfy the primary

Re: Question On Space Allocation

2008-04-11 Thread willie bunter
Subject: Re: Question On Space Allocation David, Thanks for the suggestion. For my better understanding, Zos will attempt to satisfy the primary allocation (5 extents) on the same pack. Correct? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe

Re: Question On Space Allocation

2008-04-11 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
He also needs to reduce his Primary allocation. From: willie bunter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri 4/11/2008 10:04 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question On Space Allocation Thanks David for the info. I will speak to the user and ask him

Re: Question On Space Allocation

2008-04-11 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Poster: O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Question On Space Allocation --- He also needs to reduce his Primary allocation

Re: Question On Space Allocation

2008-04-11 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
. From: willie bunter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri 4/11/2008 10:04 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question On Space Allocation Thanks David for the info. I will speak to the user and ask him to put a vol parm. Thanks. O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Question On Space Allocation

2008-04-11 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Subject: Re: Question On Space Allocation That was part of the original posting. The user says he doesn't want to lest his data get 'chunked up'...his NO CLUE light is on Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Information Communications Technology Crawford Company 4680 N. Royal

Re: Question On Space Allocation

2008-04-11 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
snipped He doesn't have a choice unless the OP is willing to reserve a volume or = two for users like this. Of course that's what Overflow storage groups are for. Exactly. On occasion the user needs to understand the ramifications of obstinance. Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems

Re: Question On Space Allocation

2008-04-11 Thread willie bunter
Daniel, I liked your idea, but our management supports the old adage the customer is always right. I had a chat with the user this morning and advised him to change the jcl - add the vol parm etc. I also reminded him of the fact, should his jobs abend, I will add dasd which will be

Re: Question On Space Allocation

2008-04-11 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Poster: willie bunter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Question On Space Allocation --- Daniel, I liked your idea, but our management supports

Re: Question On Space Allocation

2008-04-11 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 09:57:45 -0400, Daniel McLaughlin wrote: Noticed that LRECL is specified, RECFM FB, but no BLKSIZE. Does that default to 1 record per block? Mighty wasteful. Actually, in this case, it s not wasteful at all. With LRECL=14160, you can get 3 records on a track. If you were

Re: Question On Space Allocation

2008-04-11 Thread willie bunter
: -- Information from the mail header --- Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Poster: willie bunter Subject: Re: Question On Space Allocation --- Daniel, I liked your idea

Re: Question On Space Allocation

2008-04-11 Thread Ted MacNEIL
The user says he doesn't want to lest his data get 'chunked up'...his NO CLUE light is on The performance impact of fragmented datasets disappeared years ago. The whole purpose of SMS is to reduce the end-user management of datasets and storage. Tell him that it would be better to have a

Re: Question On Space Allocation

2008-04-11 Thread Ron Hawkins
2:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Question On Space Allocation The user says he doesn't want to lest his data get 'chunked up'...his NO CLUE light is on The performance impact of fragmented datasets disappeared years ago. The whole purpose of SMS is to reduce