MULTACC and MULTSDN rule of thumb

2009-05-12 Thread Kirk Wolf
I'm writing a general purpose QSAM I/O library to be called from a HLL, where the JCL / dynamic allocation / dataset label will supply nearly all of the parameters (RECFM/BLKSIZE/LRECL, etc). I would like to make it perform well without requiring much in the way of parameter tuning by the user

Re: MULTACC and MULTSDN rule of thumb

2009-05-12 Thread Martin Packer
: Kirk Wolf k...@dovetail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 12/05/2009 16:47 Subject: MULTACC and MULTSDN rule of thumb Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu I'm writing a general purpose QSAM I/O library to be called from a HLL, where the JCL / dynamic allocation / dataset

Re: MULTACC and MULTSDN rule of thumb

2009-05-12 Thread Kirk Wolf
Thanks. The book seems to also suggest MULTACC=3,MULTSDN=6 ( the same as my SWAG ). Of course, any QSAM considerations aren't mentioned in the old red book, since MULTACC/MULTSDN for QSAM is new. If I understand it, the same considerations should apply as for BSAM, right? Kirk Wolf

RULE OF THUMB ?

2006-09-19 Thread John Dawes
Just that I understand correctly the following If I define the vtoc (below) as VTOC(0,1,29) - INDEX(2,0,45) The VTOC starts at cylinder 0 for 29 tracks The INDEX starts at cylinder 2 for 45 tracks. If for some reason the INDEX was set to 5,0,45. Would we have a

Re: RULE OF THUMB ?

2006-09-19 Thread R.S.
John Dawes wrote: Just that I understand correctly the following If I define the vtoc (below) as VTOC(0,1,29) - INDEX(2,0,45) The VTOC starts at cylinder 0 for 29 tracks The INDEX starts at cylinder 2 for 45 tracks. If for some reason the INDEX was set to 5,0,45.

Re: RULE OF THUMB ?

2006-09-19 Thread Bruce Black
If I define the vtoc (below) as VTOC(0,1,29) - INDEX(2,0,45) The VTOC starts at cylinder 0 for 29 tracks The INDEX starts at cylinder 2 for 45 tracks. If for some reason the INDEX was set to 5,0,45. Would we have a problem with response time? Is there a set rule that

Re: RULE OF THUMB ?

2006-09-19 Thread John Kington
John, I now place the vtoc, vtoc index and vvds at the beginning of the logical volume. I size the vtoc and vvds based on the expected number of datasets that will be allocated to the volume. The size of the index is based on the size of the vtoc. The only reason that I place all together at the

Re: RULE OF THUMB ?

2006-09-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/20/2006 at 12:05 AM, John Dawes [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The VTOC starts at cylinder 0 for 29 tracks The INDEX starts at cylinder 2 for 45 tracks. If for some reason the INDEX was set to 5,0,45. Would we have a problem with response time? You might have

Re: RULE OF THUMB ?

2006-09-19 Thread John Ticic
-- snip -- If I define the vtoc (below) as VTOC(0,1,29) - INDEX(2,0,45) The VTOC starts at cylinder 0 for 29 tracks The INDEX starts at cylinder 2 for 45 tracks. If for some reason the INDEX was set to 5,0,45. Would we have a problem with response time? Is there a set rule

Re: Rule of thumb about paging / page fault rate

2005-12-29 Thread Avram Friedman
Chr. Have you done some paper and pencil storage estimates On a LPAR assume 2 gig for each of Z/os OMVS Each DB2 subsystem Each IMS subsystem Each MQ subsystem Each CICS subsystem 5 Batch address spaces 20 TSO users If you have 14 gig available to an LPAR and one each of the above items you may

Re: Rule of thumb about paging / page fault rate

2005-12-28 Thread DMR-Qualitas Outsourcing
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 15:33:47 -0600, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The ROTs are fine (old and current), but there is really only one thing that matters and you may be paging, or you may not be Are you meeting your SLAs? Mark Hello Mark, of course, to meet SLAs is the first and last

Re: Rule of thumb about paging / page fault rate

2005-12-23 Thread Christian Blesa
Hi folks!! Thanks a lot for your answers. I'm learning a lot with you. At DB2-list (http://www.idugdb2-l.org/archives/db2-l.html) I found following discussion: ** I read the value 100 in a Chuck Hoover's article: 'If the sum

Re: Rule of thumb about paging / page fault rate

2005-12-23 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Christian Blesa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi folks!! Thanks a lot for your answers. I'm learning a lot with you. At DB2-list (http://www.idugdb2-l.org/archives/db2-l.html) I found following discussion:

Re: Rule of thumb about paging / page fault rate

2005-12-23 Thread Mark Zelden
The ROTs are fine (old and current), but there is really only one thing that matters and you may be paging, or you may not be Are you meeting your SLAs? Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America and Farmers Insurance Group mailto: [EMAIL

Re: Rule of thumb about paging / page fault rate

2005-12-22 Thread Avram Friedman
are revising central storage due to our systems not paging and, therefore, it's possible that we have installed too central storage. We have seen to find values or some rule of thumb but we don't find anything. At 1991 the recommendation was 300-500pag/sec of total paging but now this recommendation

Re: Rule of thumb about paging / page fault rate

2005-12-22 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi, In a related topic does anyone have thoughts or recent references to settings for MCCAFCTH in PARMLIB IEAOPTxx? I currently use MCCAFCTH=(5000,6000), on my OLTP production partitions with 32M and very large AFQ (no paging) and still have MCCAFCTH=(2000,2500), for my test and development

Re: Rule of thumb about paging / page fault rate

2005-12-22 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 12:14:01 -0500, Knutson, Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, In a related topic does anyone have thoughts or recent references to settings for MCCAFCTH in PARMLIB IEAOPTxx? I currently use MCCAFCTH=(5000,6000), on my OLTP production partitions with 32M and very large AFQ (no

Re: Rule of thumb about paging / page fault rate

2005-12-22 Thread Gerhard Adam
Most OS performance rules of thumb were developed for TSO and simple batch workloads where each address space (region) served a single 'user' and did no async i/o or any self directed, non os service task management. To the extent that workloads have shifted to to multi user address spaces that

Rule of thumb about paging / page fault rate

2005-12-21 Thread DMR-Qualitas Outsourcing
Good morning, we are revising central storage due to our systems not paging and, therefore, it's possible that we have installed too central storage. We have seen to find values or some rule of thumb but we don't find anything. At 1991 the recommendation was 300-500pag/sec of total paging

Re: Rule of thumb about paging / page fault rate

2005-12-21 Thread Hal Merritt
. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DMR-Qualitas Outsourcing Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 6:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Rule of thumb about paging / page fault rate Good morning, we are revising central

Re: Rule of thumb about paging / page fault rate

2005-12-21 Thread Shane Ginnane
Mmmm - that recommendation would have been from the days when we all had expanded. You really wouldn't want to try and sustain that rate to round brown spinning stuff. It's good these days, but as Hal said, it's slow. Zero is a good target. As usual it's horses for courses - some