Re: SMS-releasing unused space

2008-05-07 Thread Natasa Savinc
Tom, we just overwrite it with the next run Robert, we don't have STOPX37, SRS or similar products. The attributes of MCNORLSE are : Expire after Days Non-usage . : NOLIMIT Expire after Date/Days . . . . : NOLIMIT Retention Limit . . . . . . . : NOLIMIT Partial Release . . . . . . : NO

Re: SMS-releasing unused space

2008-05-07 Thread Ron Hawkins
: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 6:47 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] SMS-releasing unused space Daniel, because the size of the dataset is one day 200 cyl, another day 300 cyl or more, and during the weekend 10 cly. When we had RLSE, number of extents was steadily growing

SMS-releasing unused space

2008-05-06 Thread Natasa Savinc
Hello, in order to prevent releasing of unused space for some datasets, I allocated it yesterday with MC that has Partial release parameter set to 'No'. However, today when I look at some of those datasets, they look like the space was first released (primary extent is 1 cyl, allocated was

Re: SMS-releasing unused space

2008-05-06 Thread John Kington
Natasa, Hello, in order to prevent releasing of unused space for some datasets, I allocated it yesterday with MC that has Partial release parameter set to 'No'. However, today when I look at some of those datasets, they look like the space was first released (primary extent is 1 cyl,

Re: SMS-releasing unused space

2008-05-06 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 6 May 2008 08:25:42 -0400, John Kington wrote: Natasa wrote: Hello, in order to prevent releasing of unused space for some datasets, I allocated it yesterday with MC that has Partial release parameter set to 'No'. However, today when I look at some of those datasets, they look like

Re: SMS-releasing unused space

2008-05-06 Thread Faber, Hermann
Natasa, in order to prevent releasing of unused space for some datasets, I allocated it yesterday with MC that has Partial release parameter set to 'No'. However, today when I look at some of those datasets, they look like the space was first released (primary extent is 1 cyl, allocated was

Re: SMS-releasing unused space

2008-05-06 Thread John Kington
Tom, On Tue, 6 May 2008 08:25:42 -0400, John Kington wrote: Natasa wrote: Hello, in order to prevent releasing of unused space for some datasets, I allocated it yesterday with MC that has Partial release parameter set to 'No'. However, today when I look at some of those

Re: SMS-releasing unused space

2008-05-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 6 May 2008 08:25:42 -0400, John Kington wrote: Natasa, Hello, in order to prevent releasing of unused space for some datasets, I allocated it yesterday with MC that has Partial release parameter set to 'No'. However, today when I look at some of those datasets, they look like the

Re: SMS-releasing unused space

2008-05-06 Thread Natasa Savinc
Here is additional information: The dataset was allocated through ISPF panels (so there was no RLSE parameter), in subsequent daily batch it is used with DISP=OLD, program is ICEMAN. Management class MCNORLSE does not allow any migration, because those datasets are used every day. Regarding

Re: SMS-releasing unused space

2008-05-06 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Poster: Natasa Savinc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SMS-releasing unused space --- Here is additional information: The dataset was allocated through ISPF panels

Re: SMS-releasing unused space

2008-05-06 Thread John Kington
Natasa, Here is additional information: The dataset was allocated through ISPF panels (so there was no RLSE parameter), in subsequent daily batch it is used with DISP=OLD, program is ICEMAN. Management class MCNORLSE does not allow any migration, because those datasets are used every day.

Re: SMS-releasing unused space

2008-05-06 Thread Natasa Savinc
Daniel, because the size of the dataset is one day 200 cyl, another day 300 cyl or more, and during the weekend 10 cly. When we had RLSE, number of extents was steadily growing. Regards, Natasa -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: SMS-releasing unused space

2008-05-06 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 6 May 2008 09:05:34 -0400, John Kington wrote: Tom Marchant wrote: I think it's unlikely that the volume is so fragmented that the first extent allocated was only 1 cylinder, but that he was able to obtain a total of 220 cylinders in 12 extents. It is especially unlikely considering

Re: SMS-releasing unused space

2008-05-06 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SMS-releasing unused space --- Daniel, because the size of the dataset is one day 200 cyl, another day 300 cyl or more, and during the weekend 10 cly. When we had RLSE, number

Re: SMS-releasing unused space

2008-05-06 Thread Natasa Savinc
John, I will see about DAF, thank you for the information. The idea was to allocate the dataset manually, in order to assign it new MC, and to avoid changing daily batch and ACS routines. I allocated it again, and this time I checked actual allocation: General Data

Re: SMS-releasing unused space

2008-05-06 Thread Natasa Savinc
Daniel, allocation was 200/20. My question was something like where did this 1 come from? Regards, Natasa -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET

Re: SMS-releasing unused space

2008-05-06 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 6 May 2008 08:46:53 -0500, Natasa Savinc wrote: because the size of the dataset is one day 200 cyl, another day 300 cyl or more, and during the weekend 10 cly. When we had RLSE, number of extents was steadily growing. You reuse this data set? How do you empty it to prepare for the next

Re: SMS-releasing unused space

2008-05-06 Thread Richards, Robert B.
, May 06, 2008 9:56 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SMS-releasing unused space John, I will see about DAF, thank you for the information. The idea was to allocate the dataset manually, in order to assign it new MC, and to avoid changing daily batch and ACS routines. I allocated it again

Re: SMS-releasing unused space

2008-05-06 Thread Rick Fochtman
snip- Storage space constraint relief could cause this which is why I suggested looking at fragmentation. I probably should have included amount of free space on the volume or in the SMS pool. -unsnip--- I submit that

Re: SMS-releasing unused space

2008-05-06 Thread Clark Morris
On 6 May 2008 06:30:03 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Here is additional information: The dataset was allocated through ISPF panels (so there was no RLSE parameter), in subsequent daily batch it is used with DISP=OLD, program is ICEMAN. Unless things have changed, there is a RLSE