Re: SYSLOG purging . . .

2006-03-14 Thread Jose Martinez
John, I don't know if you are familiar to using OPERLOG. If not, I should suggest you ought to. I personally feel my life got better when we got rid of SYSLOG. In case you are, please take a look at CBT file #513, there you will find a set of tools to take advantage of OPERLOG. In few

Re: SYSLOG purging . . .

2006-03-14 Thread Knutson, Sam
It's not free but you may find a commercial archive product like $AVRS http://www.seasoft.com/ makes storing, searching, and managing retention of SYSLOG easier and would help you fill your requirements. Best Regards, Sam Knutson, GEICO Performance and

Re: SYSLOG purging . . .

2006-03-14 Thread Jon Bathmaker
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Re: SYSLOG purging . . .

2006-03-14 Thread Jack Kelly
why couldn't you simply do 'w l' . then each day is a disticnt sysout/dsn/joe. then purge individual sysout that are 3 months old Jack Kelly LA Systems @ US Courts x 202-502-2390 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: SYSLOG purging . . .

2006-03-14 Thread Jon Bathmaker
Hi All; Thanks for your help. The piece of the puzzle I was missing is that SDSF treats multiple SYSLOG data sets as a single logically contiguous Syslog. Which is what my user wants. So I just need to spin the syslog every week and after 3 months start writing the oldest one to a GDG. Thanks

SYSLOG purging . . .

2006-03-13 Thread Jon Bathmaker
Hi All; I have an unusual request from my user. He wants to keep three months of SYSLOG on the spool in one logically contiguous piece and every week, he wants to dump the oldest week to a GDG, leaving the rest there in a single spool dataset. It's rather like a logger scenario. I have never

Re: SYSLOG purging . . .

2006-03-13 Thread Lizette Koehler
Jon, One shop I was at we dumped SYSLOG every night at midnight to a DASD GDG. Then every week we used JOBTRAC (job scheduling product) to pickup the weeks work of GDGs and wrote a weekly GDG to DASD. Then we used Jobtrac to pick up the Weeklies and make a monthly tape. You can do something

Re: SYSLOG purging . . .

2006-03-13 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Bathmaker Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 3:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: SYSLOG purging . . . Hi All; I have an unusual request from my user. He wants to keep three

Re: SYSLOG purging . . .

2006-03-13 Thread Ulrich Krueger
Jon, you could probably go and invent some wheel, a program to work with the external writer program, to do what your user wants, plus some more to handle the retention, tape migration, expiration, etc. However, this wheel has already been invented many times over. Please look on the Internet for

Re: SYSLOG purging . . .

2006-03-13 Thread Ulrich Krueger
Jon, on second thought ... First of all, you can not keep a contiguous hunk of SYSLOG (one big file for 90 days) and then expect to be able to easily delete a day's or week's worth of records. That's just not how the thing's designed. Depending on your system setup, SYSLOG is automatically broken

Fw: SYSLOG purging . . .

2006-03-13 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Thid poster had a REPLYTO, so it didn't make it to IBM-Main. - -teD I’m an enthusiastic proselytiser of the universal panacea I believe in! -Original Message- From: Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:21:16 To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SYSLOG purging

Re: SYSLOG purging . . .

2006-03-13 Thread Diehl, Gary (MVSSupport)
Jon, I too have to respond on the droll side of life. The SPOOL is meant as a temporary place to put print objects between creation and offload (to either a printer, an external file, another JES node, or the bit bucket). It is an enormous waste of DASD to keep SPOOL there any longer than

Re: SYSLOG purging . . .

2006-03-13 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 3/13/2006 5:28:05 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As far as how to make the older data drop off, I'd have to refer you to the excellent suggestions that have already been sent to the list by our very sharp and clever posters. Yeah don't know

Re: SYSLOG purging . . .

2006-03-13 Thread Tom Schmidt
Jon, JES2 or JES3? How many syslog records does the site produce on an average week? How many syslog records does the site produce in its busiest week? -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: SYSLOG purging . . .

2006-03-13 Thread Joel C. Ewing
Three months of SYSLOG sounds rather excessive, unless the user is really willing to foot the bill for the extra JES SPOOL space, and the additional cost of backing up all that data for DR. We only keep about 3 weeks of SYSLOG online to JES and just that much is typically 5 - 10% of our total