Re: Sharing Data between SMSPLEXES.

2009-09-24 Thread Darth Keller
Has anyone asked why the original poster has 2 SMSPlexes? His cleanest solution might be to merge the 2. Sounds like he has at least some shared DASD - in a previous incarnation, we had a similar situation and I did NOT want 2 SMSPlexes controlling volumes. So I 'merged' the code - basically

Re: Sharing Data between SMSPLEXES.

2009-09-24 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 07:30:38 -0500, Darth Keller darth.kel...@assurant.com wrote: Has anyone asked why the original poster has 2 SMSPlexes? His cleanest solution might be to merge the 2. Good point. Sounds like he has at least some shared DASD - in a previous incarnation, we had a similar

Re: Sharing Data between SMSPLEXES.

2009-09-24 Thread brianmfraser
Thanks everyone for your input. Has anyone asked why the original poster has 2 SMSPlexes? His cleanest solution might be to merge the 2. Good point. The bronze sysplex is fairly recently merged from seperate sysplexes to take advantage of licensing savings. Merging the 2 completely to a

Sharing Data between SMSPLEXES.

2009-09-23 Thread Brian Fraser
We have 2 SMSPLEXES within a bronze SYSPLEX. GRS is common to all LPARS, but most everything else is not. Now we have a new DB2 application coming that will require application datasets which will be required to be written to from all LPARS in the PLEX. I've shared volumes before by having a

Re: Sharing Data between SMSPLEXES.

2009-09-23 Thread Rob Scott
: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Brian Fraser Sent: 23 September 2009 16:22 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Sharing Data between SMSPLEXES. We have 2 SMSPLEXES within a bronze SYSPLEX. GRS is common

Re: Sharing Data between SMSPLEXES.

2009-09-23 Thread Staller, Allan
Given the constraints you have imposed, I would suggest a 3rd ('platimum') SMSplex for this data. i.e. shared ucat,. Volumes, SMS cds's, HSMplex,... Comments interspersed: We have 2 SMSPLEXES within a bronze SYSPLEX. GRS is common to all LPARS, but most everything else is not. Now we have a

Re: Sharing Data between SMSPLEXES.

2009-09-23 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 23:21:45 +0800, Brian Fraser brianmfra...@gmail.com wrote: We have 2 SMSPLEXES within a bronze SYSPLEX. GRS is common to all LPARS, but most everything else is not. Now we have a new DB2 application coming that will require application datasets which will be required to be

Re: Sharing Data between SMSPLEXES.

2009-09-23 Thread John Kelly
snip Since GRS is common, you don't have to worry about data set integrity or issues with sharing PDSE / HFS across SMS. /snip I thought that PDSE didn't work inter-SYSPLEX no matter what you did with GRS but only intra-SYSPLEX. Wrong again? Jack Kelly 202-502-2390 (Office)

Re: Sharing Data between SMSPLEXES.

2009-09-23 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:10:55 -0400, John Kelly john_j_ke...@ao.uscourts.gov wrote: snip Since GRS is common, you don't have to worry about data set integrity or issues with sharing PDSE / HFS across SMS. /snip I thought that PDSE didn't work inter-SYSPLEX no matter what you did with GRS but only

Re: Sharing Data between SMSPLEXES.

2009-09-23 Thread John Kington
Brian , We have 2 SMSPLEXES within a bronze SYSPLEX. GRS is common to all LPARS, but most everything else is not. Now we have a new DB2 application coming that will require application datasets which will be required to be written to from all LPARS in the PLEX. I've shared volumes before by

Re: Sharing Data between SMSPLEXES.

2009-09-23 Thread Terri E Shaffer
zSoftware Group / Emerging Technologies Office: # 614-213-3467 Cell: # 412-519-2592 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Brian Fraser Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 11:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Sharing Data

Re: Sharing Data between SMSPLEXES.

2009-09-23 Thread Jousma, David
Data between SMSPLEXES. We have 2 SMSPLEXES within a bronze SYSPLEX. GRS is common to all LPARS, but most everything else is not. Now we have a new DB2 application coming that will require application datasets which will be required to be written to from all LPARS in the PLEX. I've shared volumes

Re: Sharing Data between SMSPLEXES.

2009-09-23 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:25:45 -0400, John Kington john.king...@convergys.com wrote: SMS keeps space utilization information for each managed volume in the communications dataset. By allowing multiple SMSplexes to allocate, extend and delete datasets on the same volume(s), you will likely get

Re: Sharing Data between SMSPLEXES.

2009-09-23 Thread John Kington
Mark, SMS keeps space utilization information for each managed volume in the communications dataset. By allowing multiple SMSplexes to allocate, extend and delete datasets on the same volume(s), you will likely get these stats out of whack. The result would be something like never allocating a

Re: Sharing Data between SMSPLEXES.

2009-09-23 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:51:12 -0400, John Kington john.king...@convergys.com wrote: Mark, SMS keeps space utilization information for each managed volume in the communications dataset. By allowing multiple SMSplexes to allocate, extend and delete datasets on the same volume(s), you will likely get

Re: Sharing Data between SMSPLEXES.

2009-09-23 Thread Rob Scott
: 23 September 2009 20:14 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Sharing Data between SMSPLEXES. On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:10:55 -0400, John Kelly john_j_ke...@ao.uscourts.gov wrote: snip Since GRS is common, you don't have to worry about data set integrity or issues with sharing PDSE / HFS across