Re: Sharing z/OS DASD under VM

2005-11-06 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 11/04/2005 at 08:06 AM, Knutson, Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: This is perfectly safe since z/VM will enforce read only access if that is the way a disk is attached you are not violating any sharing rules. FSVO safe. It will certainly protect the R/O volumes, but, as

Re: Sharing z/OS DASD under VM

2005-11-04 Thread Knutson, Sam
In the TMON lab we always ran new ESP releases of z/OS under z/VM just so we could have read only access to our existing DASD in the Sysplex before toleration service was available to actually bring the guests into the Sysplex. This worked well you just have to have some volumes exclusive under

Re: Sharing z/OS DASD under VM

2005-11-04 Thread Crispin Hugo
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Sharing z/OS DASD under VM

2005-11-03 Thread Crispin Hugo
Quick question to the experts, Is there an easy way to share a DASD between 5 or more z/OS systems under z/VM. We would like to put some files on DASD that can then be read by another other z/OS system who has access to the DASD. I don't want more than 1 machine to write to any file. Sort of read

Re: Sharing z/OS DASD under VM

2005-11-03 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
Crispin Hugo wrote: Quick question to the experts, Is there an easy way to share a DASD between 5 or more z/OS systems under z/VM. We would like to put some files on DASD that can then be read by another other z/OS system who has access to the DASD. I don't want more than 1 machine to write to

Re: Sharing z/OS DASD under VM

2005-11-03 Thread Crispin Hugo
- From: Edward E. Jaffe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 November 2005 20:18 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Sharing z/OS DASD under VM Crispin Hugo wrote: Quick question to the experts, Is there an easy way to share a DASD between 5 or more z/OS systems under z/VM. We would like

Re: Sharing z/OS DASD under VM

2005-11-03 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Crispin Hugo Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 2:14 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Sharing z/OS DASD under VM Quick question to the experts, Is there an easy way to share a DASD

Re: Sharing z/OS DASD under VM

2005-11-03 Thread Bruce Black
Oh, I'm not too sure how well z/OS will tolerate a read only disk. I remember doing it long ago with MVS 3.8j and VM/370. I'd get some strange I/O errors at times. Even when you open a dataset for just INPUT, OPEN may want to rewrite the F1 DSCB to update the last reference date if is not

Re: Sharing z/OS DASD under VM

2005-11-03 Thread Crispin Hugo
2005 21:05 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Sharing z/OS DASD under VM Oh, I'm not too sure how well z/OS will tolerate a read only disk. I remember doing it long ago with MVS 3.8j and VM/370. I'd get some strange I/O errors at times. Even when you open a dataset for just INPUT, OPEN may want

Re: Sharing z/OS DASD under VM

2005-11-03 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
Crispin Hugo wrote: Thanks Ed. I am unsure about what MVS will think of Read only. I don't think it understands it. We do it all the time. You get an IOS message (cmd reject) written to the console when z/OS attempts to write to a read-only device. --

Re: Sharing z/OS DASD under VM

2005-11-03 Thread Crispin Hugo
] Sent: 03 November 2005 21:23 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Sharing z/OS DASD under VM Crispin Hugo wrote: Thanks Ed. I am unsure about what MVS will think of Read only. I don't think it understands it. We do it all the time. You get an IOS message (cmd reject) written to the console

Re: Sharing z/OS DASD under VM

2005-11-03 Thread Bruce Black
I got a note from a friend who works for a disk vendor that confirms that when they have disks in r/o mode, MVS open for INPUT works just fine, no DSCB update errors. -- Bruce A. Black Senior Software Developer for FDR Innovation Data Processing 973-890-7300 personal: [EMAIL PROTECTED] sales

Re: Sharing z/OS DASD under VM

2005-11-03 Thread Ed Gould
On Nov 3, 2005, at 2:32 PM, Crispin Hugo wrote: Thanks Ed. I am unsure about what MVS will think of Read only. I don't think it understands it. The dataset may be read only but what about the VTOC (date last used) ? Ed