Re: Startio Question

2008-12-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 11/22/2008 at 01:01 AM, Lindy Mayfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Well, this was one of the first IBM related things that popped up in Google: http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6453277.html It looks like a defensive patent; I would expect that the defendant in an

Re: Startio Question

2008-11-22 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008q.html#33 Startio Question http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008q.html#34 Startio Question http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008q.html#35 Startio Question in the nsc/hyperchannel scenario ... the start i/o was intercepted ... the channel program translated ... then a hyperchannel

Re: Startio Question

2008-11-22 Thread J Ellis
You may want to look at writing your own UIM (Unit Information Module), I have Bustech devices installed and they use the UIM for their devices, here's a link to a paper they gave me about them. Look under the MAS: Principles of operation section

Startio Question

2008-11-21 Thread Lindy Mayfield
Looking at startio makes more sense now after I've gotten hold an S/370 Princ. Op book. If I understand, one uses startio for low level communications with I/O devices. And if I want to go lower I can use instructions like SSCH. (Thanks again Bill F. for the code) But there is one part I am

Re: Startio Question

2008-11-21 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
Lindy Mayfield wrote: like help with. How would one via z/OS software make z/OS think that there is an I/O device attached to a particular channel? In other words, I run some software that makes z/OS think it is a device and then intercept all channel commands to that device. So far

Re: Startio Question

2008-11-21 Thread Richard Peurifoy
Lindy Mayfield wrote: Looking at startio makes more sense now after I've gotten hold an S/370 Princ. Op book. If I understand, one uses startio for low level communications with I/O devices. And if I want to go lower I can use instructions like SSCH. (Thanks again Bill F. for the code)

Re: Startio Question

2008-11-21 Thread Anton Britz
Lindy, What are you trying to do ? The BIG picture... not the story of trying to be a Virtual Device in zOS because there is other ways of doing the same thing, that will cost you much less effort ex. Creating your own Sub-system , with all open/clean IBM api's and examples on the Share tape.

Re: Startio Question

2008-11-21 Thread Lindy Mayfield
. Anyway, it's a good start. Thanks GP. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gerhard Postpischil Sent: 22. marraskuuta 2008 1:40 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Startio Question What you want is a software function, so you won't

Re: Startio Question

2008-11-21 Thread Ted MacNEIL
How this can be a patent I don't understand. I thought patents were for inventions, and copyrights were for software. Software patents do exist. Some are considered inventions. As a matter oif fact, parts of the open sores community is trying to get software patents disallowed. - Too busy

Re: Startio Question

2008-11-21 Thread Lindy Mayfield
. marraskuuta 2008 1:57 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Startio Question Lindy, What are you trying to do ? The BIG picture... not the story of trying to be a Virtual Device in zOS because there is other ways of doing the same thing, that will cost you much less effort ex. Creating your own

Re: Startio Question

2008-11-21 Thread Anton Britz
I do not get it ... understand how things work ? What is your overall objective ? Are you trying to write an Operating System or are you just trying to ask an intelligent question on an IBM email list because the SAS institute does not know what to do with you. Anton Lindy Mayfield

Re: Startio Question

2008-11-21 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 11/21/2008 5:40:02 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How would one via z/OS software make z/OS think that there is an I/O device attached to a particular channel? The way z/OS itself attaches a device to a particular channel is with the Modify

Re: Startio Question

2008-11-21 Thread Skip Robinson
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Re: Startio Question

2008-11-21 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 11/21/2008 6:24:02 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, this was one of the first IBM related things that popped up in Google: _http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6453277.html_ (http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6453277.html) Be careful when

Re: Startio Question

2008-11-21 Thread Gibney, Dave
Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anton Britz Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 4:33 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Startio Question I do not get it ... understand how things work ? What is your overall objective ? Are you trying

Re: Startio Question

2008-11-21 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 11/21/2008 6:26:45 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: and after looking at the S/370 books I see the SIO x'9C' instruction which made me think about STARTIO again. On a S/370, the machine instruction SIO (x'9C') was named Start I/O. It was a

Re: Startio Question

2008-11-21 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (, IBM Mainframe Discussion List) writes: The way z/OS itself attaches a device to a particular channel is with the Modify Subchannel (MSCH) instruction. This

Re: Startio Question

2008-11-21 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008q.html#33 Startio Question ... oh ... recent post http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008p.html#50 with copy of old email http://www.garlic.com/~lynn

Re: Startio Question

2008-11-21 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
. Like I said, intriguing... NSC software design based on what i had originally done for stl ( boulder) ... including having to get them to change from using CC to IFCC several yrs later (as simulated error condition) http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008q.html#33 Startio Question http://www.garlic.com