Question: Is *short* service window acceptable?
If yes then *no tool* and *no consultancy* is needed, despite of the
data amount or volume geometry (more precisely: models).
In fact only few system volumes and DB2 need special tool or outage,
vast majority of data can moved on the fly.
I don't
IIRC, do not IPL any MVS image connected to that storage subsystem while
TDMF is running.
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 1:42 PM, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
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My shop is now the proud owner of a HDS 9990V. We are however novices in
the use of TDMF which the vendor has
Thanks Glen, That almost goes without saying but the reminder is appreciated.
From: Glen Gasior [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sat 9/13/2008 2:44 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
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IIRC, do not IPL any MVS image connected to that storage
Brian,
That would be the SUN STK 9990V, which is the same as the HDS USP-V :-)
Ron
My shop is now the proud owner of a HDS 9990V. We are however novices
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Because it is a 9990V, meaning it is sold and supported by SUN STK. If he
said it was a XP24K then it would be sold and supported by HP. HDS are not
directly in the picture.
It's like back in the day when you could buy an Iceberg from STK or an RVA
from IBM. Same box, different vendor.
I'm
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Ron,
You're right, I muddied the waters with that one. Sorry.
Who's Brian?
Regards,
Dave O'Brien
From: Ron Hawkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Brian,
That would be the SUN
Oops! That should be David. My bad.
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Subject: TDMF Questions
My shop is now the proud owner of a HDS 9990V. We are however novices in
the use of TDMF which the vendor
My shop is now the proud owner of a HDS 9990V. We are however novices in the
use of TDMF which the vendor has proposed as the transfer agent between our old
and new DASD.
Can anyone point me to TDMF documentation?
Has anyone run into any issues using TDMF on live data?
Any issues with HSM
My shop is now the proud owner of a HDS 9990V. We are however novices in the
use of TDMF which the vendor has proposed as the transfer agent between our
old and new DASD.
Most of the time, the vendor includes conversion as part of the acquisition.
If he didn't, or you negotiated it out, you're
David,
My shop is now the proud owner of a HDS 9990V. We are however
novices in the use of TDMF which the vendor has proposed as the
transfer agent between our old and new DASD.
Can anyone point me to TDMF documentation?
Has anyone run into any issues using TDMF on live data?
Any issues
I believe that IBM is now the owner of TDMF.
I don't remember what name IBM has given their version of the product
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Subject: Re: TDMF Questions
My shop is now the proud owner of a HDS 9990V. We are however novices in the
use of TDMF which the vendor has proposed as the transfer agent between our
old and new DASD.
Most of the time, the vendor includes conversion as part of the acquisition
Limit the number of concurrent volumes you move with TDMF (probably 5 volumes).
It is a parameter in TDMF. This is very important for I/O intensive volumes
For JES2 checkpoint, you need to be careful. Read the book or work with z/OS
support group on this. If you move one volume/one checkpoint
David,
My shop is now the proud owner of a HDS 9990V. We are however
novices in the use of TDMF which the vendor has proposed as the
transfer agent between our old and new DASD.
Can anyone point me to TDMF documentation?
Has anyone run into any issues using TDMF on live data?
is part of the package, we just had some questions as
to how the process worked.
Regards,
Dave O'Brien
From: Ted MacNEIL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thu 9/11/2008 2:54 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: TDMF Questions
My shop is now the proud owner
We are not doing anything. The vendor is controlling all of the migration.
We monitored the first few migrations, then we left them alone.
The jobs ran in the background, and nobody noticed.
Of course, it helped that we were moving from ESCON to FICON.
The only issue was we couldn't migrate
Limit the number of concurrent volumes you move with TDMF (probably 5
volumes). It is a parameter in TDMF. This is very important for I/O intensive
volumes
We didn't have problems, and each job moved 50 at a time. We did have high I/O
intensity.
For JES2 checkpoint, you need to be careful.
One further question:
We currently use FDR to backup our Z/VM and Linux volumes.
Since the volumes are accessible to Z/os, will we be able to move VM and Linux
volumes using TDMF?
Thanks,
Dave
We currently use FDR to backup our Z/VM and Linux volumes.
Since the volumes are accessible to Z/os, will we be able to move VM and Linux
volumes using TDMF?
You have a vendor supplied consultant doing the moves.
Why don't you ask them?
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From: Ted MacNEIL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thu 9/11/2008 4:16 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: TDMF Questions
We currently use FDR to backup our Z/VM and Linux volumes.
Since the volumes are accessible to Z/os, will we be able to move VM
David,
One further question:
We currently use FDR to backup our Z/VM and Linux volumes.
Since the volumes are accessible to Z/os, will we be able to move VM
and Linux volumes using TDMF?
Thanks,
Dave
Dang, you made me look at the manual. The name of the manual is
Installation and
Thanks John, Hopefully at some point I'll have access to the manual.
From: John Kington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thu 9/11/2008 4:33 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: TDMF Questions
David,
One further question:
We currently use FDR to backup
Thanks John, Hopefully at some point I'll have access to the manual.
Unless you're going to become a TDMF expert, why do you need access to the
manual?
That's what your expert's for.
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What makes you think that we haven't? We have. Their responsiveness is less
than desired, besides the accumulated experience on this Listserv gives me a
better sense of peace of mind than a vendor's assertion. The vendor in this
case is not HDS. Just want to make that clear to protect the
oreConfigSkeleton as well; we
might be able to use that. it gets emitted when writeConfig() is
called... s ... we could do sth like:
* connect d-configXml configChanged to a configChanged signal (or slot?)
* create dialog using d-configXml
* writeConfig gets called by the dialog
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