Re: Preventive z/OS maintenance, was: EPSPT vs. FIXCAT

2012-05-18 Thread Walter Marguccio
From: Jürgen Kehr kehrjuer...@t-online.de  One major idea behind this project is to apply as few PTFs as possible, but as many PTFs as needed. Jürgen, this is my understanding of the RSUmmyy. My memory could be rusty on this, but many moons ago customers were tired of peeking through too

Re: Preventive z/OS maintenance, was: EPSPT vs. FIXCAT

2012-05-18 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 18 May 2012 00:52:38 -0700, Walter Marguccio wrote: this is my understanding of the RSUmmyy. My memory could be rusty on this, but many moons ago customers were tired of peeking through too many PTFs delivered in SMCREC, SMCCOR, PUTmmyy recipients, and complained to IBM. As a result,

Preventive z/OS maintenance, was: EPSPT vs. FIXCAT

2012-05-17 Thread Jürgen Kehr
Hi Radoslaw, in your note you mentioned the idea to apply all (installable) PTFs. This idea leads me to the reason for opening this topic. I'm involved in an IBM project for preventive maintenance packages named CPMz. One major idea behind this project is to apply as few PTFs as possible, but

Re: Preventive z/OS maintenance, was: EPSPT vs. FIXCAT

2012-05-17 Thread R.S.
Jürgen In my humble opinion every piece of software installed should serviced, so I sustain the idea of aplying all PTFs. Disclaimers (exceptions): - One can have some software installed, but not used. - I'm not talking about PTFs in error, etc. - Up to date does not necessarily mean from

Re: Preventive z/OS maintenance, was: EPSPT vs. FIXCAT

2012-05-17 Thread Jousma, David
Paris, Grand Rapids, MI 49546 MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.2717 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 3:19 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Preventive z/OS maintenance, was: EPSPT vs

Re: Preventive z/OS maintenance, was: EPSPT vs. FIXCAT

2012-05-17 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jousma, David Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 12:33 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Preventive z/OS maintenance, was: EPSPT vs. FIXCAT I agree with Radoslaw. Quite often, I am forced to plan

Re: Preventive z/OS maintenance, was: EPSPT vs. FIXCAT

2012-05-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 17 May 2012 19:33:17 +, Jousma, David wrote: Picking and choosing what maintenance to apply will typically get you into trouble at some point especially if you have limited opportunities to implement said maintenance. If you have a weekly window, then you may operate on a

Re: Z/OS Maintenance

2011-07-06 Thread Art Gutowski
On Tue, 5 Jul 2011 12:36:17 -0700, Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com wrote: There's that old saw about not fixing something that ain't broke. My response is that it's *always* broke. You may or may not personally encounter the problem, but every corrective APAR tells a tale of woe for some

Re: Z/OS Maintenance

2011-07-06 Thread Shane Ginnane
H - well, I did finally see some hardware fail. C'mon software vendors, your turn to step up to the plate ... Shane ... (I deleted all addresses as otherwise some may see it as disingenuous - gawd knows how) There's that old saw about not fixing something that ain't broke. And the one

Re: Z/OS Maintenance

2011-07-05 Thread Skip Robinson
I left Brian's text intact because it contains advice worth seeing again. Some additional points. Besides RSU there are other good mechanisms as well: --- ASAP and AST tracking with email notification in IBM ServiceLink. I feed my current FMID inventory into ASAP--I wish that were easier to

Re: Z/OS Maintenance

2011-07-05 Thread Patrick Lyon
On Tue, 5 Jul 2011 12:36:17 -0700, Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com wrote: At the end of the day, if a big problem befalls you, and you have to tell the story to your boss, would you rather have to explain why you... 1. installed a HIPER PTF that went south, or 2. refrained from

Re: Z/OS Maintenance

2011-07-05 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 5 Jul 2011 14:52:03 -0500, Patrick Lyon wrote: On Tue, 5 Jul 2011 12:36:17 -0700, Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com wrote: 1. installed a HIPER PTF that went south, or 2. refrained from installing a HIPER PTF because (insert tailored excuse here) I like #1 because it shifts blame

Re: The ABCs of z/OS Maintenance.

2008-06-13 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 7:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: The ABCs of z/OS Maintenance. I can't believe I forgot to include the new link. Sorry! https://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/iwm/web/pick.do?lang=en_USsource= swg-systemzprfm5S_PKG=ZPRFE50608IItcode=108AF19E

Re: The ABCs of z/OS Maintenance.

2008-06-13 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 12:10:15 -0700, Schwarz, Barry A wrote: Pretty strange. After filling out the registration form, I received a 9 page document. The title sheet said it was volume 1 of the old ABCs (introduction to JCL, etc). Page 2 was numbered 243. Looks like something got hosed. That

Re: The ABCs of z/OS Maintenance.

2008-06-13 Thread Gary Green
- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schwarz, Barry A Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 3:10 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: The ABCs of z/OS Maintenance. Pretty strange. After filling out the registration form, I received a 9 page document. The title sheet

Re: The ABCs of z/OS Maintenance.

2008-06-13 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:39:26 -0400, Gary Green wrote: Only the nine pages? I thought it was longer than that since it was a chapter subset of manual #1. Only eight pages. And with a pretty large font. -- Tom Marchant -- For

Re: The ABCs of z/OS Maintenance.

2008-06-13 Thread Gary Green
: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Marchant Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 4:37 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: The ABCs of z/OS Maintenance. On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:39:26 -0400, Gary Green wrote: Only the nine pages? I thought it was longer than

Re: The ABCs of z/OS Maintenance.

2008-06-13 Thread Edward Jaffe
Gary Green wrote: Perhaps in the future before I post that kind of information, I should look at it myself...? ;) I routinely ignore all of those lead-generating, contact-gathering, IBM marketing gimmicks disguised as white papers and such. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software

Re: The ABCs of z/OS Maintenance.

2008-06-13 Thread Gary Green
/tntsonj/tntsonjGGreen -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 5:00 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: The ABCs of z/OS Maintenance. Gary Green wrote: Perhaps in the future before I post

Re: The ABCs of z/OS Maintenance.

2008-06-05 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3)
Just go get the first volume of the ABCs of Systems Programming. It's chapter 6 of the book. And the book does not function as a contact gatherer like this link does. I did not yet fill out the registration for just that reason. Thanks for the chapter hint. -- Peter Hunkeler Credit Suisse

Re: The ABCs of z/OS Maintenance.

2008-06-05 Thread R.S.
Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3) wrote: Just go get the first volume of the ABCs of Systems Programming. It's chapter 6 of the book. And the book does not function as a contact gatherer like this link does. I did not yet fill out the registration for just that reason. Thanks for the chapter hint.

Re: The ABCs of z/OS Maintenance.

2008-06-04 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3)
http://www-931.ibm.com/tela/webmail/CampaignPublisher/15165 Is this the complete URL? I'm getting Error 500 -- Peter Hunkeler Credit Suisse -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: The ABCs of z/OS Maintenance.

2008-06-04 Thread Gary Green
I just tried it again and it works for me. Huh... Here is another link related to this one. It's the registration page to download the article. Perhaps you'll have better luck. A side question if I may... (just curious) Are you located at the Credit Suisse site in New Brunswick, NJ? Gary

Re: The ABCs of z/OS Maintenance.

2008-06-04 Thread Gary Green
I can't believe I forgot to include the new link. Sorry! https://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/iwm/web/pick.do?lang=en_USsource=swg-systemzprfm5S_PKG=ZPRFE50608IItcode=108AF19E On Wed Jun 4 9:37 , Gary Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: I just tried it again and it works for me. Huh... Here

Re: The ABCs of z/OS Maintenance.

2008-06-04 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3)
Thank for the second link. This one works. I'm located in Zurich / Switzerland. -- Peter Hunkeler CREDIT SUISSE -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the

Re: The ABCs of z/OS Maintenance.

2008-06-04 Thread Matthew Stitt
Just go get the first volume of the ABCs of Systems Programming. It's chapter 6 of the book. And the book does not function as a contact gatherer like this link does. On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 16:42:02 +0200, Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank for the second link. This one works.

The ABCs of z/OS Maintenance.

2008-06-03 Thread Gary Green
I subscribe to a lot of stuff from IBM and just received the following and thought I would pass it along. Even though the information is derived from one of the Redbooks in the z/OS Systems Programming series, not everyone may have their own personal copy of the Redbook or this may tickle