Re: additional processor?

2009-10-14 Thread Brian Westerman
We also do capacity plans at Syzygy for our clients for free. Plus we perform system audits which can be used for this decision as well, but a simple capacity plan is all you really need to do. It's difficult to tell what you should get CPU-wise without actual physical data to base it on.

Re: additional processor?

2009-10-14 Thread David Cartwright
If your workload is mainly DB2 and CICS these products used to run on other platforms. Have you investigated a Windows Server? To keep it IBM you could look at a P series running AIX or Linux. May be faster and cheaper than Z. Perhaps moving part of the workload to another platform could offer

Re: additional processor?

2009-10-14 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 02:43:35 -0500, Brian Westerman brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com wrote: Also, if you are running (or going to run) z/OS 1.11, there is new support for using them interchangeably with each other (zIIPs and zAAPs). Not quite. The support is for zAAP on zIIP. Not the other way

Re: additional processor?

2009-10-13 Thread Hadaway, John
@bama.ua.edu Subject: additional processor? *** cross-posted in IBM-MAIN, CICS-L, DB2-L *** Hi, If having the choice between a z10-BC with 2 or 3 processors, and if NOT taking (or having to take) into account the price aspect, is it possible to investigate wether a 2- or a 3-processor system might

additional processor?

2009-10-13 Thread Jan Vanbrabant
*** cross-posted in IBM-MAIN, CICS-L, DB2-L *** Hi, If having the choice between a z10-BC with 2 or 3 processors, and if NOT taking (or having to take) into account the price aspect, is it possible to investigate wether a 2- or a 3-processor system might better suit us? I assume it may be

Re: additional processor?

2009-10-13 Thread Thomas H Puddicombe
-MAIN@bama.ua.edu To IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu cc Subject additional processor? *** cross-posted in IBM-MAIN, CICS-L, DB2-L *** Hi, If having the choice between a z10-BC with 2 or 3 processors, and if NOT taking (or having to take) into account the price aspect, is it possible to investigate

Re: additional processor?

2009-10-13 Thread Clark, Kevin
, 2009 9:38 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: additional processor? *** cross-posted in IBM-MAIN, CICS-L, DB2-L *** Hi, If having the choice between a z10-BC with 2 or 3 processors, and if NOT taking (or having to take) into account the price aspect, is it possible to investigate wether a 2

Re: additional processor?

2009-10-13 Thread Hal Merritt
List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jan Vanbrabant Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 8:38 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: additional processor? *** cross-posted in IBM-MAIN, CICS-L, DB2-L *** Hi, If having the choice between a z10-BC with 2 or 3 processors, and if NOT taking

Re: additional processor?

2009-10-13 Thread Ted MacNEIL
It's best to have IBM commission a Capacity Study. Having a vendor doing a Capacity Study is akin to: The Farmer yells into the henhouse: How's it going? The Fox yells back: Send in more chickens! You can supply them with a peak usage week of SMF/RMF data usually at no cost. I've not seen

Re: additional processor?

2009-10-13 Thread Clark, Kevin
MacNEIL Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 11:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: additional processor? It's best to have IBM commission a Capacity Study. Having a vendor doing a Capacity Study is akin to: The Farmer yells into the henhouse: How's it going? The Fox yells back: Send in more

Re: additional processor?

2009-10-13 Thread Itschak Mugzach
: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 11:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: additional processor? It's best to have IBM commission a Capacity Study. Having a vendor doing a Capacity Study is akin to: The Farmer yells into the henhouse: How's it going? The Fox yells back: Send in more

Re: additional processor?

2009-10-13 Thread Mark Pace
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: It's best to have IBM commission a Capacity Study. snip You can supply them with a peak usage week of SMF/RMF data usually at no cost. I've not seen it at no cost for years. The last one I was involved in/hired for

Re: additional processor?

2009-10-13 Thread Gibney, Dave
, 2009 9:36 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: additional processor? Google for fewer faster and you'll find some articles and post on that. It, of course depend on your workload. If you have long running jobs, they would run as fast as the single processor speed... Itschak

Re: additional processor?

2009-10-13 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 1:02 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: additional processor? Few faster maybe, but when few becomes one, it is time to run

Re: additional processor?

2009-10-13 Thread Scott Rowe
Our sales team does capacity studies for us all the time (at least annually), and I haven't seen them distort any numbers either. Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca 10/13/2009 11:28 AM It's best to have IBM commission a Capacity Study. Having a vendor doing a Capacity Study is akin to: The

Re: additional processor?

2009-10-13 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Our sales team does capacity studies for us all the time (at least annually), and I haven't seen them distort any numbers either. Interesting. I never said anything about distorting numbers. Statistics is just a matter of interpretation. - Too busy driving to stop for gas!

Re: additional processor?

2009-10-13 Thread Rick Fochtman
---snip--- Having a vendor doing a Capacity Study is akin to: The Farmer yells into the henhouse: How's it going? The Fox yells back: Send in more chickens! -unsnip-- That's not

Re: additional processor?

2009-10-13 Thread Ted MacNEIL
That's not necessarily true. What's not true? I said akin to (meaning like), not the same as. 7Can anyone tell if George Crane still runs SNAPSHOT, at Raleigh?? I had it done by somebody in South Carolina. Could be expensive NOT could be -- is! but it's generaly pretty accurate and George

Re: additional processor?

2009-10-13 Thread Clark, Kevin
Shameless plug... Mainline, Inc. did our at no cost -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 12:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: additional processor? On Tue, Oct 13, 2009