Re: ACF2: populating UID string from job name?

2009-01-28 Thread Joe D'Alessandro
Hi: Based on this explanation: I need to allow or deny specific JCL parameters based on the job name, *not* on the user id could you use the batch JOB name as a LOGONID. That is, define each JOB name to ACF2 as a LOGONID (or, one LOGONID per each set of JOB names of a certain pattern).

Re: ACF2: populating UID string from job name?

2009-01-27 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In listserv%200901260812374232.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 01/26/2009 at 08:12 AM, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com said: But I think there are much better ways of handling this. I don't have the authority to change existing shop standards. Some of those suggestions have already been given. If

Re: ACF2: populating UID string from job name?

2009-01-27 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In listserv%200901261716349266.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 01/26/2009 at 05:16 PM, Andy Wood woo...@ozemail.com.au said: Without a better understanding of what you are trying to do As I wrote in my original message, I'm trying to get hard coded tests of specific substrings of the job name, used to

Re: ACF2: populating UID string from job name?

2009-01-27 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In listserv%200901261324322136.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 01/26/2009 at 01:24 PM, Joe D'Alessandro joseph.d'alessan...@fiserv.com said: So what we are discussing is a varying UID string presented to ACF2 for adjudication: a possible different UID when the LID's running JOBA vs. JOBB. Yes. In the

Re: ACF2: populating UID string from job name?

2009-01-27 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In listserv%200901261355380886.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 01/26/2009 at 01:55 PM, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com said: Even if it is possible, I don't like the idea I don't like the idea either, but I like the idea of having to edit, assemble, link and activate IEFUJV every time the rules

Re: ACF2: populating UID string from job name?

2009-01-27 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In listserv%200901261212505905.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 01/26/2009 at 12:12 PM, Joe D'Alessandro joseph.d'alessan...@fiserv.com said: Is there already an eight byte empty /unused area in the UID now between FUNCTION and LOGONID? No. If you add a field to the UID (and expand it, rather than

Re: ACF2: populating UID string from job name?

2009-01-27 Thread Wolfgang Schäfer
. Cheers Wolfgang Schäfer - Original Message - From: Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 12:27 PM Subject: Re: ACF2: populating UID string from job name? In 497d923c.cee3.003

Re: ACF2: populating UID string from job name?

2009-01-27 Thread Roy Hewitt
Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In listserv%200901261716349266.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 01/26/2009 at 05:16 PM, Andy Wood woo...@ozemail.com.au said: Without a better understanding of what you are trying to do As I wrote in my original message, I'm trying to get hard coded tests of specific

Re: ACF2: populating UID string from job name?

2009-01-27 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 497d923c.cee3.003...@edfund.org, on 01/26/2009 at 10:36 AM, Natarajan Mohan nmo...@edfund.org said: Instead consider defining a resource class ex. JOBNAME and issue RACROUTE AUTH to the class JOBNAME with ATTR(READ). That wouldn't do what I'm trying to do. I need to allow or deny specific

Re: ACF2: populating UID string from job name?

2009-01-27 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:34:07 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In listserv%200901260812374232.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 01/26/2009 at 08:12 AM, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com said: But I think there are much better ways of handling this. I don't have the

Re: ACF2: populating UID string from job name?

2009-01-27 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:42:48 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In listserv%200901261355380886.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 01/26/2009 at 01:55 PM, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com said: Even if it is possible, I don't like the idea I don't like the idea either,

Re: ACF2: populating UID string from job name?

2009-01-27 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:36:26 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In listserv%200901261212505905.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 01/26/2009 at 12:12 PM, Joe D'Alessandro joseph.d'alessan...@fiserv.com said: Is there already an eight byte empty /unused area in the UID now

Re: ACF2: populating UID string from job name?

2009-01-26 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In listserv%200901220757028624.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 01/22/2009 at 07:57 AM, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com said: I think the answer is no, but I'm not sure I understand what you are trying to do. Security rules that mask against the job name, in place of current code in IEFUJV. The

Re: ACF2: populating UID string from job name?

2009-01-26 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In listserv%200901221733125649.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 01/22/2009 at 05:33 PM, Andy Wood woo...@ozemail.com.au said: Can't you just issue a SAF AUTH call with an ENTITY containing whatever it is you want to check? No. In order to do that the job name would have to be part of the UID string. --

Re: ACF2: populating UID string from job name?

2009-01-26 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 06:25:31 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: So are you proposing that your UID string look something like this (of course this is a made up example): FieldLen --- -- DIVISION 2 static DEPARTMENT 3 static

Re: ACF2: populating UID string from job name?

2009-01-26 Thread Joe D'Alessandro
Hi: Just to clarify: I believe the lengths of these fields are static. And the LID is 8 bytes long in the delivered product. Some of us have 8 bytes LIDs (for CICS or other non-TSO users). I am not sure what static meant in the chart (values)? In any case, we are talking about a UID

Re: ACF2: populating UID string from job name?

2009-01-26 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:12:50 -0600, Joe D'Alessandro joseph.d'alessan...@fiserv.com wrote: Hi: Just to clarify: I believe the lengths of these fields are static. And the LID is 8 bytes long in the delivered product. Some of us have 8 bytes LIDs (for CICS or other non-TSO users). I am not sure

Re: ACF2: populating UID string from job name?

2009-01-26 Thread Natarajan Mohan
Hi, ACF2 FDR needs to be changed to accommodate any changes in UID string of LID. Which would result in access rules being changed all over the place. Instead consider defining a resource class ex. JOBNAME and issue RACROUTE AUTH to the class JOBNAME with ATTR(READ). Example to define a

Re: ACF2: populating UID string from job name?

2009-01-26 Thread Joe D'Alessandro
Mark: Thanks for the clarification. I had not undertood this phrase populating UID string from the job name in that manner, as I think of the UID as being part of a user's identification. So what we are discussing is a varying UID string presented to ACF2 for adjudication: a possible

Re: ACF2: populating UID string from job name?

2009-01-26 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:24:32 -0600, Joe D'Alessandro joseph.d'alessan...@fiserv.com wrote: Mark: Thanks for the clarification. I had not undertood this phrase populating UID string from the job name in that manner, as I think of the UID as being part of a user's identification. So what we are

Re: ACF2: populating UID string from job name?

2009-01-26 Thread Andy Wood
On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 06:27:19 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm- m...@patriot.net wrote: Can't you just issue a SAF AUTH call with an ENTITY containing whatever it is you want to check? No. In order to do that the job name would have to be part of the UID string. Well, if you say so.

ACF2: populating UID string from job name?

2009-01-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
ACF2[1] authorization is done by pattern matching of rules against an installation-defined construct called the UID string. The fields in the UID string come from the ACF2 logon id (LID) record. I'm dealing with an old IEFUJV that does a lot of cross checking of different substrings of the job

Re: ACF2: populating UID string from job name?

2009-01-22 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 07:10:10 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: ACF2[1] authorization is done by pattern matching of rules against an installation-defined construct called the UID string. The fields in the UID string come from the ACF2 logon id (LID) record. I'm

Re: populating UID string from job name?

2009-01-22 Thread Pinnacle
- Original Message - From: Shmuel Metz , Seymour J. shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 7:12 AM Subject: ACF2: populating UID string from job name? ACF2[1] authorization is done by pattern matching of rules against

Re: ACF2: populating UID string from job name?

2009-01-22 Thread Andy Wood
I'm not sure that you want to be messing with the UID. Can't you just issue a SAF AUTH call with an ENTITY containing whatever it is you want to check? That would be similar in concept to the JESJOBS SUBMIT ENTITY SUBMIT.NODENAME.JOBNAME.USERID.