Re: virtual copies

2006-03-22 Thread Ron and Jenny Hawkins
Consistency. Personally, I believe if you have BCM then At-Time split is the way to go. Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Black Sent: Saturday, 18 March 2006 12:30 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: virtual

Re: virtual copies

2006-03-17 Thread Bruce Black
At Time splits with Shadowimage and/or TrueCopy use Timestamps to initiate the split and create consistency. There is no blockade of writes for a few seconds while all the volumes are split. Ron, you are right, ShadowImage doesn't operate quite the same as IBM FlashCopy and EMC Consistent

Re: virtual copies

2006-03-16 Thread Ron and Jenny Hawkins
Bruce, At Time splits with Shadowimage and/or TrueCopy use Timestamps to initiate the split and create consistency. There is no blockade of writes for a few seconds while all the volumes are split. Ron With normal backups, and even with normal instant replication, I/O consistency cannot be

virtual copies (was: IXFP ...)

2006-03-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Bruce Black said: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:11:16 -0500 Flashcopy has a consistent flash mode that makes it unnecessary to suspend application updates, as long as the application is a logged system doing dependant writes ... I'm unfamiliar with the terms, but

Re: virtual copies

2006-03-13 Thread Bruce Black
Does DFSMS have a new facility for dependent writes that somehow chains the writes together? Is it as simple as doing all the writes in a single channel program with a guarantee that the perceived updates of the backing store are congruent with the order of the I/O requests? As I use the term