Re: One or two CPUs - the pros cons

2006-06-10 Thread Ted MacNEIL
First, for the past 10 years or so the SMP effect has been negated to the point that it is almost not worth figuring, especially for anything under 10 engines. I disagree. I lose 12-15% of the engine when I add the second one and I lose another 15% (or more) for each engine thereafter, up to

Re: How-to read a tersed file directly from USS?

2006-06-10 Thread Schramm, Rob
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Re: ECSA

2006-06-10 Thread Greg Price
I've heard of that some places are desperate to get every KB of extended private area they can, but I've never worked at one. So usually I like to see between 50MB and 200MB of ECSA sitting around just in case. Then, if an ECSA hog comes along you have room to move. Such a hog (of varying

Re: how to specify the z/OS LE runtime timezone ?

2006-06-10 Thread john gilmore
The LE callable service CEEGMTO returns the offset of local time from GMT/UTC time. Examples of its use are provided in the IBM manual z/OS Language Environment Programming Reference, publication number SA22-7562. The current edition can be downloaded from the IBM publications website.

Re: ECSA

2006-06-10 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I've heard of that some places are desperate to get every KB of extended private area they can, but I've never worked at one. We had a front-end software switch in front of ABM's a few years back, where I used to work. It kept all of its control blocks in one address space. We had to tune the

Re: One or two CPUs - the pros cons

2006-06-10 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi Ted, I won't discount that could be true with an unusual pathologically SMP unfriendly workload but it's not normal on modern zSeries environments in my experience. The support in z/OS for more than 16 CP's would be pointless if it were true. Some of the capacity charts produced for z990 and

Re: One or two CPUs - the pros cons

2006-06-10 Thread Eric N. Bielefeld
I'm curious about something. I believe the z/900, which I'm sure can be bought fairly cheaply on the open market, has multiple engines that can be turned on or off by IBM. What if you buy a 3 engine machine, and 6 months later you need 5 engines. I'm sure if you pay IBM to upgrade the box,

Re: One or two CPUs - the pros cons

2006-06-10 Thread Gerhard Adam
I disagree. I lose 12-15% of the engine when I add the second one and I lose another 15% (or more) for each engine thereafter, up to about 8 or 9 engines. Going from a 308 to a 309 adds only about 300 MIPS when an engine is (nominally) 450 MIPS. That to me is more than almost not worth

Re: One or two CPUs - the pros cons

2006-06-10 Thread Shane
On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 15:35 -0700, Gerhard Adam wrote: I disagree. I lose 12-15% of the engine when I add the second one and I lose another 15% (or more) for each engine thereafter, up to about 8 or 9 engines. Going from a 308 to a 309 adds only about 300 MIPS when an engine is (nominally)

Mainframes to address new ‘workload,’ says IBM

2006-06-10 Thread Ed Gould
Mainframes to address new ‘workload,’ says IBM INQ7.net Sat, 10 Jun 2006 10:33 AM PDT MAINFRAMES will stay but will continue to evolve to address new types of applications or workloads that customers demand today, an IBM executive said.

Re: Mainframes to address new ‘workload,’ says IBM

2006-06-10 Thread Shane
The bit I found interesting was; IBM's internal figures indicate that around 60 percent of mainframe revenues are now derived from running new workloads such as Linux, Java, database applications, and recently, service-oriented architecture-type of systems. I can believe these so-called new

Re: Mainframes to address new ‘w orkload,’ says IBM

2006-06-10 Thread Schiradin,Roland HG-Dir itb-db/dc
Don't know perhaps he/she means SAP, SIEBEL, Datawarehouse or whatever comes via DB2 Connect. Well I see about 30-40 percent for two of my four client. Well SOA is just a bit not to say close to 1 percent but it's a very new task even it's old for IBM. XML is very important and AFAIK z/OS R8

Re: One or two CPUs - the pros cons

2006-06-10 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
Gerhard Adam wrote: What are you losing? It isn't as if these processors are off playing solitaire. They're paying the cost of communication to allow more simultaneous operations for YOUR workload. The primary benefit of this approach is to reduce the queueing impacts of multiple units of