In the past 5 years I have converted from as far back as MVS/XA, and I know
we still have over 20 clients that are (still) running OS/390. Our job is
to make it so that if they want to run what they have, and are happy with
it, that it will continue to work. In most cases there are really
compell
At 22:05 + on 11/18/2010, Ted MacNEIL wrote about Re: ReSizing
the SMF Man Files:
>IEFU29 exits are cheap, or free.
Automation can get very expensive.
If exits have to be maintained, and written in assembler (a
declining skill), they can become very expensive.
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Gil,
Thanks for the URL. And for letting me down easy. That API looks complete to
me. Perhaps now quite as simple as I was envisioning, but complete enough to
use as-is without me messing it up.
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>I share your distaste for the term. I like: "Meaninless Indication of
>Processor Speed'.
>What's cool is that is not very far from the actuality
Actually, it is.
>In fairness, it -is- a number that a high manager can use to reasonbly
>quantify things.
I disagree.
The number means nothing.
I couldn't get a URL - cut/paste the following string into Google:
Microsoft PowerPoint - LSU 2008 FA v3
Here is another link:
http://www.tech-news.com/publib/pl2097.html
I share your distaste for the term. I like: "Meaninless Indication of Processor
Speed'. What's cool is that is not very fa
For IMS there is REXXIMS, REXXDLI and IMSSPOC.
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 08:52, McLaren Phil <
phil.mcla...@axawinterthur.co.uk> wrote:
> John,
>
> There is a Rexx/CICS EXCI interface - CA1D. Just set it up here and it
> works well.
> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=1083&uid=swg2400923
>I'd tell an accountant that the SI rating is for special case workloads and
>can be safely ignored.
>The MI rating is for a realistic workload mix.
I've been involved in performance/capacity since 1981, and I've never seen an
MI/SI distinction, before.
Are there any web references on this top
>However... in regards to this discussion (and remember, I'm an IEFU29 user),
>if you are already paying for and using console automation, be it home grown,
>vanilla Netview, SAA, AFOPER, BMC, etc., how much extra does it cost to write
>and activate a rule to dump MANx data sets when the messag
I'd tell an accountant that the SI rating is for special case workloads and can
be safely ignored. The MI rating is for a realistic workload mix.
I'd go on to say that MIP ratings are an approximation at best.
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On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 15:52:51 -0600, Rick Fochtman wrote:
>IEFU29 exits are cheap, or free. Automation can get very expensive.
On whole, yes, automation can be expensive both in the pocket book
and in CPU cycles (of course YMMV a lot depending on package and
what you are doing).
However... in r
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 16:11:00 -0600 Dave Day wrote:
:>I would like to pick up a value from the PSA for each active processor.
The CVT points to the PCCAVT which has one pointer for each processor. The
PCCA has a field PCCAPSAV.
:>(18)ADDRESS 4PCCAPSAV - VIRTUAL ADDRES
I am investigating the symmetric clear-key encryption callable services in
ICSF, specifically CSNBSYE and CSNBSYD. The Fine Manual shows a way to link
the ICSF modules with your calling application code, but AFAICS does *not*
specify whether static linking is required or not.
So, my question i
> I would like to pick up a value from the PSA for each active
> processor. The CVT points to the PCCAVT which has one pointer for
> each processor. The PCCA has a field PCCAPSAV.
>
> (18)ADDRESS 4PCCAPSAV - VIRTUAL ADDRESS OF
>
John,
I guess that rather depends on why the accountant thinks it's important to
understand the difference, and whether we're really talking about
MIPS or machine capacity.
I'd comment that the overhead of running ONE operating system copy on a
piece of hardware is likely to be less than if you a
>Not IEFU29, though I agree when it comes to many exits.
I knew I was going to get a response like that when I generalised.
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I would like to pick up a value from the PSA for each active processor.
The CVT points to the PCCAVT which has one pointer for each processor. The
PCCA has a field PCCAPSAV.
(18)ADDRESS 4PCCAPSAV - VIRTUAL ADDRESS OF
Not IEFU29, though I agree when it comes to many exits.
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Ted MacNEIL wrote:
> >IEFU29 exits are cheap, or free.
> >Automation can get very expensive.
>
> If exits have to be maintained, and written in assembler (a declining
> skill), they can become very expensive
>IEFU29 exits are cheap, or free.
>Automation can get very expensive.
If exits have to be maintained, and written in assembler (a declining skill),
they can become very expensive.
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IEFU29 exits are cheap, or free. Automation can get very expensive. And
the exits are easier to test in a new release of z/OS and have smaller
impact on the overall performance of your system. I've used the same
mechanisms because my organization didn't buy automation. We just set up
our job st
Is anyone able to run more than one ICAT (formerly CICAT) at the same time,
eg ICAT for CICS, ICAT for DB2, etc.
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contract.
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Taking "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" to an extreme. What do they do
when (not "if") it finally breaks?
And I wonder if the FAA is still running the "National Airspace System"
on IBM 360-9020s?
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We have customers till using OS/390 1.3 on MP2003 systems. And we continue to
support them.
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I don't know VSE. I did a fast read on that function on the Web, but dynamic
allocation seems easier to me using BPXWDYN.
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Correct... senior moment.
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Multiple levels of misdir
VSE supports ADDRESS JCL.
Very useful. But I suppose the way JCL is implemented on MVS would probably
not allow this.
Ah well.
Frank
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Multiple levels of misdirection are a beguiling notion. They would help to
keep us alert. Here, however, I think you mean levels of indirection.
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Another thought might be ADDRESS CATALOG or something to make IGGCSI00 easier
for people to use.
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On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 07:43:03 -0600, McKown, John wrote:
>There are a number of environments for REXX which are accessed via the
>"ADDRESS" command. Eg: ADDRESS TSO ; ADDRESS SDSF; ADDRESS SYSCALL; ADDRESS
>ISPEXEC; ADDRESS ISREDIT. So, I my mind was wandering around without a keeper
>the other
How does one explain a 2098-O02 SI MIPS rating and a MI MIPS rating to an
accountant much less myself?
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The PMR for this error on HBBN700G, generated an APAR QA34345 - which says
that one of the steps in the process put ending blanks in a file, which
messed up the command. The process given in the apar, for deleting the bad
steps and re-running the jobs, works and you finally get the profile cr
Thanks for the offer but we have our own procedures which make use of symbolic
links in the root which point to other directories where we actually mount the
products. There are actually two levels of misdirection so that we can change
any product's level by just changing the second level symbol
There's no problem in upgrading just one product in this "conglomeration" -
I use a concept of "staging" volumes with the $VERSION ROOT on one of the
staging volumes.
If you'd like to be educated on how this "conglomeration" works, and it
works quite well, thank you, I'd be happy to educate you.
O
In <4ce14d54.9060...@isis-papyrus.com>, on 11/15/2010
at 04:10 PM, Miklos Szigetvari
said:
> External writer PGM (IASXWR00) defined in the PPT as SYST Is it
>possible to make it multistep?
Yes. However, that answer is specific to the External Writer. The
general answer is that you can onl
John:
Your ideas are great.
Sign me in.
We sure need those environments from Rexx.
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 9:43 AM, McKown, John wrote:
> There are a number of environments for REXX which are accessed via the
> "ADDRESS" command. Eg: ADDRESS TSO ; ADDRESS SDSF; ADDRESS SYSCALL; ADDRESS
> ISPEXEC
Bingo! Give the man a cigar. Just don't put it in the same body
cavity as Bill Clinton.
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:32 AM, John Norgauer
wrote:
> So if I do a volume dump, is the dump logical or physical depending on the
> use of the LOGINDD or PHYSINDD?
>
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So if I do a volume dump, is the dump logical or physical depending on the
use of the LOGINDD or PHYSINDD?
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I think that Mike is actually asking if general purpose automated
operations can be accomplished via the IEFU29 exit, and the answer to
that is no. The IEFU29 exit is an SMF exit specifically designed to
handle the situation when the SMF files are switched.
Tom Kelman
Capacity Planning
Commerce B
Automation is automated action on the event that an SMF dataset is full
and needs to be dumped and cleared.
SMF reports this to the operator via: IEE388I SMF NOW RECORDING ON...
and SMF exit IEFU29 is called for this event.
In a non-automated environment the operator should issue a START command
When you guys talk about automation are you just talking about SMF
dumping, or are you talking about actually replacing something like
Netview automation with an exit?
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Se
I agree John, the REXX Address environments listed would be also great to have.
Rexx is general is a great tool and very useful for a lot of scripting.
Scott J Ford
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> On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 09:59:27 +0200, Binyamin Dissen
> wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 00:42:13 -0600 Elardus Engelbrecht
> > wrote:
> >
> >:>Kelman, Tom wrote:
> >
> >:>>We have it set up via the IEFU29 exit to submit a started task to
dump the
> >:>MAN
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 11:16:45 +0100, Miklos Szigetvari
wrote:
>Hi
>
>Try to start to download 1.12 from internet (via IBM FTP).
>What about the required ZFS space ?
>
It depends on your order size (which you should have from the order doc).
The suggested ROT is 3 times the size of you order so t
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 09:59:27 +0200, Binyamin Dissen
wrote:
>On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 00:42:13 -0600 Elardus Engelbrecht
> wrote:
>
>:>Kelman, Tom wrote:
>
>:>>We have it set up via the IEFU29 exit to submit a started task to dump the
>:>MAN file when a switch takes place. I do believe that this is th
Was, just got off 1.7 2 weeks ago.
Bob
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Subject: Anyone running z/OS 1.7 on a z10 box ?
Are there any shop
My z/OS 1.12 order was about a 10Gb download, but you need room for SMPE
to unpack them too(which can be a different filesystem than the
download). I usually allocate a 50Gb filesystem for my z/os download,
and then once I have completed the serverpack jobs, I delete the entire
thing. Probably
They're not talking about the size of root but about the size of the
entire z/OS distribution -- the download that replaces the z/OS
distribution tape, and which if done on z/OS goes into ZFS file space.
z/OS 1.12 will be the first release for us for which download is an
option. It turns out
John,
There is a Rexx/CICS EXCI interface - CA1D. Just set it up here and it works
well. http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=1083&uid=swg24009233
DSNREXX comes with DB2 and is well established.
IMS - I think there used to be something there too, but no personal experience.
Could be wr
Ours was approx 25K cylinders.
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There are a number of environments for REXX which are accessed via the
"ADDRESS" command. Eg: ADDRESS TSO ; ADDRESS SDSF; ADDRESS SYSCALL; ADDRESS
ISPEXEC; ADDRESS ISREDIT. So, I my mind was wandering around without a keeper
the other day and started thinking about what other environments might
The former I would like to create my own control block to be used from
the
Storage browse panel under the data area type column I would define it
as as structure(myctrlblk)
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On Nov 18, 2010, at 7:45 AM, Lizette Koehler
wrote:
Micheal Butz Wrote:
The EQUATE seems
Our v1.12 SYSTEM root is 3351 cylinders. Not all that big. You don't happen to
have WAS in your root do you? That could make it humongous.
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Michael,
STRUCTURE is a option of the EQUATE command, well indirectly. It is actually
part of the "data-description" options that are common to most IPCS commands.
EQ mytcb 00123400 STRUCTURE(tcb)
Then if you:
CBFORMAT mytcb
you will get a TCB structure formatted starting with location mytcb
> z/OS 1.7 on a z
> Are there any shops that are running, or have run,
> z/OS 1.7 on a z10 box ?
till two weeks ago we were running z/OS 1.7 on 3LPARs
on a 2098-K03 frame. We are now at z/OS 1.9 level, planning to migrate to
z/OS 1.11 in the next three months.
Walter Marguccio
z/OS Systems Prog
In
<814ca7c986123448ad7399c539154d9d01f6a...@dit00sesmail01.services.ds.state.fl.us>,
on 11/04/2010
at 03:46 PM, "Mueller, David"
said:
>Apparently, even though we never intended the original ID to have a
>TSO segment, and thus be usable from TSO, it must also meet the <=
>7-characters restric
I guess it is time to run down to the local computer store and purchase a
1TB drive for $87.00 USD and download there. ;-D
Lizette
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> Behalf Of Chase, John
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> I think our 1.11 order took four Mod-9s for the zFS
> Micheal Butz Wrote:
>
> The EQUATE seems to define variables but not structures
>
>
> Would anyone know how to define a structure for a IPCS dump
>
Are you trying to develop something for the CBFORMAT command? An example
would be CBFORMAT CVT
Then you would have displayed your control bloc
On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 16:44:55 -0500, Mark Pace wrote:
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>> I'm migrating
I think our 1.11 order took four Mod-9s for the zFS.
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The EQUATE seems to define variables but not structures
Would anyone know how to define a structure for a IPCS dump
Than
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Isn't the correct answer, what parms are used in the DFDSS?
If you use LOGINNDD, you will produce a logical backup of all datasets on a
volume.
Or if you eliminate the LOGINNDD and PHYSINDD keywords and just use
dataset(include) will also perform a logical backup.
The difference is a logical b
What do you do if you want to upgrade just one product in this conglomeration?
Having one large $VERSION root limits your flexibility. I would think that only
base z/OS USS files should be in the $VERSION root and individual products in
their own zFS.
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Ravi
Maybe you should tune your Google skills!
I tried "inet_addr failed, cannot convert address" and - after a few hits where
the partially sighted were leading the less ocularly fortunate a merry
pointless
dance - I found the following:
http://support.sas.com/kb/3/540.html
The following
Miklos,
I ordered 1.10 over the Internet. Our z doesn't have direct Internet
connectivity, so I downloaded using the Java applet onto my Linux
desktop. I then used NFS between z/OS and my desktop so that z/OS could
directly read the downloaded files. It worked fairly well for me. And
was easier be
Hi
Hoppa , but it is only the base, no any special feature.
We are very limited in 3390 disk space, I can grab 10-12 Gbyte or maybe
try in NFS .
On 11/18/2010 11:27 AM, Richards, Robert B. wrote:
It depends on what's in your order and that order should tell you how big it
is. I have seen
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There is no explicite switch like "DUMP LOGICAL" or "DUMP PHYSICAL".
However other parameter
Ravi
Here's the first point regarding lists rather than your specific problem:
If you browse the archives
http://alabamamaps.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
you will note that the post which initiates a topic or "thread" is not adorned
with an initial "Re:" but that all subsequent posts relating
It depends on what's in your order and that order should tell you how big it
is. I have seen comments that one shop's z/OS 1.11 took 28GB. YMMV
Bob
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Hi
Try to start to download 1.12 from internet (via IBM FTP).
What about the required ZFS space ?
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On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 03:21:52 -0600 Ravi Kumar wrote:
:>Before I talk to SAS thought to cross post here..
:>I am exploiting mailing service using SAS however on particular lpar only
:>it seems to be not working ..below is my JCL.
:>//SENDMAIL EXEC SASMSTR,
Forgot to add it does work with IEBGENER ..Thanks
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Before I talk to SAS thought to cross post here..
I am exploiting mailing service using SAS however on particular lpar only
it seems to be not working ..below is my JCL.
//SENDMAIL EXEC SASMSTR,
// OPTIONS='EMAILSYS=SMTP EMAILHOST=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx'
Not to mention being a whole bunch cheaper than the commercial offerings.
I have customers for which that is a significant discriminator.
Shane ...
On Thu, Nov 18th, 2010 at 6:59 PM, Binyamin Dissen wrote:
> :>Question: Why using an IEFU29 exit? Is it better than using Automation?
>
> U29 is
> BTW.. I don't see "FCP NPIV Mode On/Off" option on my z9 .. :/
>
Of course because we not enable NPIV ON:-)
but for now (tests) we don't need it
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Maybe you can check the pack mode in the edit profile for your EDGRMM00?
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>Also for grins I change the proc to use EDGRM01, which does not exist, to
>
There is no explicite switch like "DUMP LOGICAL" or "DUMP PHYSICAL".
However other parameters determina kind of DUMP.
BTW: AFAIK FDR always make physical dump but restore can be physical or
logical. And that's why FDR is faster for logical processing.
Disclaimer: I don't work for FDR.
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On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 00:42:13 -0600 Elardus Engelbrecht
wrote:
:>Kelman, Tom wrote:
:>>We have it set up via the IEFU29 exit to submit a started task to dump the
:>MAN file when a switch takes place. I do believe that this is the common
:>process.
:>While it is a common process to start dumpi
Sorry for my inconsistant.
Of course WWPNs are different on both PCHID .. I wrote only begining,
because I didn't take down a whole when I did this test.
PCHID 113 WWPN 500604844a37390c
PCHID 111 WWPN 5006048c49ae549c
BTW.. I don't see "FCP NPIV Mode On/Off" option on my z9 .. :/
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