Re: USS Education (Was: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS)

2012-01-09 Thread Grinsell, Don
@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ford Prefect Sent: Saturday, 07 January 2012 13:53 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: USS Education (Was: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS) Disturbing. On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Chris Mason chrisma...@belgacom.net wrote

Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS

2012-01-09 Thread Barbara Nitz
Did you see idle BPXASs having the service class you assigned via WLM subsystem OMVS? I have only ever seen BPXASs having SRVCLASS=SYSSTC and WORKLOAD=SYSTEM (but I had never cared to explicitly classify BPXAS neither under OMVS nor under STC). I'd expect to find BPXOINIT having SRVCLASS=SYSTEM

Re: USS Education (Was: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS)

2012-01-07 Thread Ford Prefect
Disturbing. On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Chris Mason chrisma...@belgacom.net wrote: Barbara You know how ignorant I am about USS, don't you? Well, no, I didn't at all but, since you mention it, perhaps I can help, assuming you would like to be educated in USS. These days you most

Re: Was: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS - How does Subsys of SILO work?

2012-01-06 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Barbara Nitz nitz-...@gmx.net wrote in message news:5715402586594249.wa.nitzibmgmx@bama.ua.edu... Just to add my speculations to this, too: For some reason they have excluded SMF records with that subsys. From the other posts, it is a user-defined SMF type number. The reason for

Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS

2012-01-06 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Barbara Nitz wrote: I cannot say with surety. I would have said an unequivocal yes before this discussion, but as Kees pointed out, anyone can report themselves as an SMF subsystem. And as Rob showed us, the one who writes the SMF record via SMFEWTM specifies the subsystem it is written for.

Re: Was: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS - How does Subsys of SILO work?

2012-01-06 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Vernooij, CP - SPLXM wrote: If an application needs one of them [ ... subsystem ...] like in IEFSSN, you need to specify that one, It depends on the product. I know of some third party products which are using 'hooks' to establish a subsystem, for them there is no need to bother with

Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS

2012-01-06 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote in message news:5632376965579273.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@bama.ua.edu... Barbara Nitz wrote: I cannot say with surety. I would have said an unequivocal yes before this discussion, but as Kees pointed out, anyone can report

Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS

2012-01-06 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Vernooij, CP - SPLXM wrote: Yes, we do this in IEFU83 and IEFU84 for the SYSID field. Thanks very much for your kind reply. It is much appreciated. :-) Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff

Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS

2012-01-06 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
You know how ignorant I am about USS, don't you? Some enlightenment desired? If not hit DEL :-) I went under the assumption that if it has the word INIT in the jobname, it must be idle. This only works with JESx initiators since that JCL PROC is called INIT and it is started via S INIT,.

Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS

2012-01-06 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
Can a SMF exit overwrite and change that subsystem name (or any field) in a SMF record as passed on and send these changed SMF records on to be captured by SMF subsystem and stored on a SYS1.MANx dataset later? Yes, we do this in IEFU83 and IEFU84 for the SYSID field. You say that you change

Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS

2012-01-06 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Hunkeler Peter , KIUP 4 peter.hunke...@credit-suisse.com wrote in message news:dc74548a025aff4a85f46926802a9b230779e...@chsa1035.share.beluni.net ... Can a SMF exit overwrite and change that subsystem name (or any field) in a SMF record as passed on and send these changed SMF records on to be

Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS

2012-01-06 Thread Charles Mills
records contain SM100SSI, the DB2 subsystem name. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4) Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 5:44 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS

Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS

2012-01-06 Thread Rob Scott
2012 13:44 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS Can a SMF exit overwrite and change that subsystem name (or any field) in a SMF record as passed on and send these changed SMF records on to be captured by SMF subsystem and stored on a SYS1.MANx dataset later

USS Education (Was: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS)

2012-01-06 Thread Chris Mason
Barbara You know how ignorant I am about USS, don't you? Well, no, I didn't at all but, since you mention it, perhaps I can help, assuming you would like to be educated in USS. These days you most probably use USS as described in Chapter 11, Accessing remote hosts using Telnet of the z/OS

Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS

2012-01-06 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
Offset x'12' in the standard SMF record header contains the 4-byte subsystem name. Arrgghhh. stupid me. I did look up in the SMF manual before posting but missed the fact that the headers differ for records with and without subtypes. Sorry for the noise. Thanks for setting me right. --

Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS

2012-01-06 Thread Rob Scott
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: 06 January 2012 14:43 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS The subsystem name as we have been talking about it here is not part

Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS

2012-01-06 Thread Charles Mills
experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS Offset x'12' in the standard SMF record header contains the 4-byte subsystem name. The IEFU8x exits will be able to change this value - however obviously some care and attention is needed not to confuse the eventual consumer of the data. Also - be aware that other software

Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS

2012-01-06 Thread Charles Mills
written as . Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rob Scott Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 7:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS Charles The SID is at offset X'0E

Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS

2012-01-06 Thread Martin Packer
Charles Mills wrote: DB2 uses the subtype format as it uses the subsystem ID field but AFAIK does not use the subtype field (documents it as reserved). Seems to be fairly consistently written as . DB2 doesn't have subtypes because it has its own thing - called an IFCID. The IFCID is in

Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS

2012-01-05 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Hunkeler Peter , KIUP 4 peter.hunke...@credit-suisse.com wrote in message news:dc74548a025aff4a85f46926802a9b230779d...@chsa1035.share.beluni.net ... The SMF SUBSYS types *I* am aware of are JESx, STC, TSO, OMVS, ASCH. That's it. There are three, let's say kinds of address spaces: STC, TSO,

Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS

2012-01-05 Thread Barbara Nitz
You probably meant idle BPXAS here. Furthermore, any non-idle BPXAS, i.e. one that is currently hosting a forked process, also is of SMF type OMVS and still shows up as STCn. I wasn't sure about BPXAS. But no, I meant BPXOINIT. For the simple reason that there's some sort of type in the

Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS

2012-01-05 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
You probably meant idle BPXAS here. Furthermore, any non-idle BPXAS, i.e. one that is currently hosting a forked process, also is of SMF type OMVS and still shows up as STCn. I wasn't sure about BPXAS. But no, I meant BPXOINIT. I'm puzzled. There is only one BPXOINIT per system. BPXOINIT is

Was: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS - How does Subsys of SILO work?

2012-01-05 Thread Martin Packer
Topical: Just yesterday a colleague and I were discussing a user-defined (not SSI) subsystem - SILO - that a customer appears to have. You can guess (as I did) the origin of the subsystem. Anyone know anything about the subsystem? For some reason they have excluded SMF records with that

Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS - How does Subsys of SILO work?

2012-01-05 Thread Rob Scott
: +1.617.614.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Martin Packer Sent: 05 January 2012 11:06 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Was: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS - How

Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS - How does Subsys of SILO work?

2012-01-05 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Martin Packer martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com wrote in message news:of81a0b4c6.95d34f88-on8025797c.002b1874-8025797c.003d0...@uk.ibm.c om... Topical: Just yesterday a colleague and I were discussing a user-defined (not SSI) subsystem - SILO - that a customer appears to have. You can guess (as I did)

Re: Was: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS - How does Subsys of SILO work?

2012-01-05 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 11:06:25 +, Martin Packer martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com wrote: Topical: Just yesterday a colleague and I were discussing a user-defined (not SSI) subsystem - SILO - that a customer appears to have. You can guess (as I did) the origin of the subsystem. Anyone know anything about

Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS

2012-01-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 01b201cccb2d$0cf4abf0$26de03d0$@mcn.org, on 01/04/2012 at 02:06 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said: I would assume that the writing of SMF Type 30 records would be controlled by SUBSYS(TSO and SUBSYS(JESn statements -- is that correct? There are additional SUBSYS values and Type 30

Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS

2012-01-05 Thread Charles Mills
Thanks much, Barbara. Follow-ups in-line. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Barbara Nitz Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 9:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS Charles

Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS

2012-01-05 Thread Barbara Nitz
I'm puzzled. There is only one BPXOINIT per system. BPXOINIT is started by STC OMVS during initialization and becomes PID=1 of the UNIX system. I would not consider this AS to be idle, since for me (in this context) the term idle relates to an initiator AS that is waiting for work. You know how

Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS

2012-01-05 Thread Barbara Nitz
So, is it true that for SMFPRMxx SUBSYS(xxx,(... the only useful xxx are the five or six types listed above? I say useful rather than valid because I don't mean that SMF would necessarily generate an error for SUBSYS(FOO( -- it might, I just don't care at this moment -- but it would not be

Re: Was: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS - How does Subsys of SILO work?

2012-01-05 Thread Barbara Nitz
Just to add my speculations to this, too: For some reason they have excluded SMF records with that subsys. From the other posts, it is a user-defined SMF type number. The reason for exclusion is probably just that these types didn't exist when the TYPE statement was written in SMFPRM. Are

Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS

2012-01-04 Thread Charles Mills
I assume this august group is filled with people who have forgotten more about SMFPRMxx than I will ever know. I am trying to determine the exact relationship between various SUBSYS( specifications and the writing of specific SMF record types. (And yes, I know there are OTHER variables involved,

Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS

2012-01-04 Thread Lizette Koehler
I assume this august group is filled with people who have forgotten more about SMFPRMxx than I will ever know. I am trying to determine the exact relationship between various SUBSYS( specifications and the writing of specific SMF record types. (And yes, I know there are OTHER variables

Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS

2012-01-04 Thread Charles Mills
- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 3:41 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS I assume this august group is filled with people who have forgotten more about

Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS

2012-01-04 Thread Barbara Nitz
Charles, What I don't understand is the exact mapping of SUBSYS names to record-level functionality. If *I* understand you right, then you're confusing SUBSYS as indicated in SMFPRM and a subsystem defined to the SSI. The SMF SUBSYS types *I* am aware of are JESx, STC, TSO, OMVS, ASCH. That's

Re: Calling all experts on SMFPRMxx SUBSYS

2012-01-04 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
The SMF SUBSYS types *I* am aware of are JESx, STC, TSO, OMVS, ASCH. That's it. There are three, let's say kinds of address spaces: STC, TSO, and Initiator address spaces. The latter type comprises JESx initiators, APPC initiators, and z/OS UNIX initiators, which all run the MVS initiator module