Re: Can't Cancel a CICS Region

2008-11-03 Thread Barkow, Eileen
@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Can't Cancel a CICS Region Its nice to cancel CICS and have it come down , but what caused the problem in the first place and will it happen again ? Regards, Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer [p] 678.266.3399 x304[m] 609-346-0399 identityforge.com This message

Re: Can't Cancel a CICS Region

2008-11-01 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:45:20 -0500, Patrick O'Keefe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And since SDSF was mentioned, did you know that giving the STC a Z command gives the STC a FORCE? That scares the begeebers out of me. Is FORCE now considered safe enough to be done that easily? It looks like that is

Re: Can't Cancel a CICS Region

2008-11-01 Thread Scott Ford
- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 12:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Can't Cancel a CICS Region On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:45:20 -0500, Patrick O'Keefe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And since SDSF

Can't Cancel a CICS Region

2008-10-31 Thread Howard Rifkind
Hello, This might not be the right list for this question but here goes. A CICS region which is part of an MRO group isn't shutting down after a 'p shut immed' The other two regions TOR and an AOR did shutdown with the above command but this one is hung. From an SDSF console I keyed in

Re: Can't Cancel a CICS Region

2008-10-31 Thread Pat Mihalec
You can force it down. Pat Mihalec Rush University Medical Center Senior System Programmer (312) 942-8386 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: Can't Cancel a CICS Region

2008-10-31 Thread Howard Rifkind
Pat, how would I do this...? Force ASID??? Pat Mihalec [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/31/2008 5:45 PM You can force it down. Pat Mihalec Rush University Medical Center Senior System Programmer (312) 942-8386 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For

Re: Can't Cancel a CICS Region

2008-10-31 Thread Anton Britz
Hi, MVS command : C BUSH,FORCE Note: Documented in the MVS operator commands manual but you are going to do damage to the other CICS'se too.. Maybe you should speak to the CICS systems programmer or even better, speak tot the MVS systems programmer. Anton On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 18:02:20

Re: Can't Cancel a CICS Region

2008-10-31 Thread Bob Shannon
You can force it down No. Do this first: 1. FORCE ARM 2. CANCEL 3. If it still isn't down now do the FORCE Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL

Re: Can't Cancel a CICS Region

2008-10-31 Thread Anton Britz
Bob, You are trying to teach : - Alaskan's how to waterski, I think... or - Alaskan's what Larry Craig does on that Yacht Club of his... You think, she knows what the boys where doing at the Yacht Club because Ted Stevens , was not a member ? Never mind back to work.. Anton

Re: Can't Cancel a CICS Region

2008-10-31 Thread Roland Schiradin
First choice login and try to invoke CEMT P SHUT or CEMT P SHUT I You might capture a dump and analyze this dump. In some cases you might resubmit your CANCEL request. I never saw the symptoms for a CICS region Roland Hello, This might not be the right list for this question but here

Re: Can't Cancel a CICS Region

2008-10-31 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 18:12:33 -0400, Bob Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can force it down No. Do this first: 1. FORCE ARM 2. CANCEL 3. If it still isn't down now do the FORCE ... Doing the C via SDSF issues a JES cancel. What happens if you use an MVS cancel? In fact the description of

Re: Can't Cancel a CICS Region

2008-10-31 Thread Roland Schiradin
Patrick, running CICS as STC is much better then a JOB. This issue has been discussed several times at CICS-L Roland On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 18:12:33 -0400, Bob Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can force it down No. Do this first: 1. FORCE ARM 2. CANCEL 3. If it still isn't down now do

Re: Can't Cancel a CICS Region

2008-10-31 Thread Ulrich Krueger
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 14:38 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Can't Cancel a CICS Region Hello, This might not be the right list for this question but here goes. A CICS

Re: Can't Cancel a CICS Region

2008-10-31 Thread Linda Mooney
Hey Howard, You might try a couple of things before the cancel. Most of the 'reluctant' shutdowns we have had could be resolved with the couple of things I listed. Better than clobbering the region. F CICSxx,CEMT I TASK Since you have already issued the shutdown, the only thing that