Re: IBM discoveries Charge Back...

2007-06-15 Thread Kelman, Tom
Ed, Actually I find it interesting that you should say what you have. It is my understanding that while it is true that IBM has not had anything to process the data in the past, the original purpose of SMF was to provide accounting data for chargeback purposes. It took a while and some head

Re: IBM discoveries Charge Back...

2007-06-15 Thread Bob Shannon
while it is true that IBM has not had anything to process the data in the past Some years ago Barry Merrill wrote a paper on the history of SMF. He described an SMF-processing system IBM developed but never released (SMFMAN?). Bob Shannon Rocket Software

Re: IBM discoveries Charge Back...

2007-06-15 Thread David Andrews
On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 09:01 -0400, Bob Shannon wrote: Some years ago Barry Merrill wrote a paper on the history of SMF. He described an SMF-processing system IBM developed but never released (SMFMAN?). He presented at SHARE 73 in August of 1989. Here are notes of that session from my trip

Re: IBM discoveries Charge Back...

2007-06-15 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 6/15/2007 8:27:22 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On July 6, 1966, the name SMF - System Management Facility - was picked in a brainstorming session. The philosophy of the project was that IBM would provide a way to collect data, but the customer

Re: IBM discoveries Charge Back...

2007-06-15 Thread Ed Gould
On Jun 15, 2007, at 7:57 AM, Kelman, Tom wrote: Ed, Actually I find it interesting that you should say what you have. It is my understanding that while it is true that IBM has not had anything to process the data in the past, the original purpose of SMF was to provide accounting data

Re: IBM discoveries Charge Back...

2007-06-14 Thread Kelman, Tom
Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 12:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: IBM discoveries Charge Back... https://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/iwm/web/pick.do? lang=en_USsource=swg-systemzibmsm4S_PKG

Re: IBM discoveries Charge Back...

2007-06-14 Thread Ed Gould
On Jun 14, 2007, at 2:07 PM, Kelman, Tom wrote: It looks like they're talking about the IBM Tivoli Usage and Accounting Manager (ITUAM) in this paper. That is the old CIMS package which my company has had for several years. IBM purchased CIMS at the end of last year. Tom, I found it

Re: IBM discoveries Charge Back...

2007-06-14 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 6/14/2007 3:50:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just before another group took over SMF processing we acquired a package that put to shame anything on the market (then and now), unfortunately it is probably defunct. I don't know since then if