Re: Interfacing with the MainFrame

2012-03-10 Thread Ed Mackmahon
Hi all. Many thanks for your answers (At least the ones that were trying to help) I am fully capable to develop and implement any solution I'll choose So scott if you don't mind I'll keep my bucks (-: , just want'ed to sense an interface direction from a few shops

Re: Interfacing with the MainFrame

2012-03-08 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 5664523867703651.wa.dropipopigmail@bama.ua.edu, on 03/07/2012 at 02:47 PM, Ed Mackmahon dropip...@gmail.com said: How would you prefer a product running on a server outside the mainframe will interface with the mainframe? That would depend on what it was interfacing with. --

Re: Interfacing with the MainFrame

2012-03-08 Thread Scott Ford
Chris, Dude I am in agreement here ...obviously somebody wants a freebie. Describe what you want Ed. We could design it , just come up with the necessary specs and bucks .. Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Mar 7, 2012, at 5:44 PM, Chris

Re: Interfacing with the MainFrame

2012-03-08 Thread Scott Ford
zMan, Yep sure do Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Mar 7, 2012, at 5:36 PM, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote: That would be another way, httpd on z/os , have a cgi do the

Re: Interfacing with the MainFrame

2012-03-08 Thread Chris Mason
Ed Just in case there could be something in the MQ concept for you, first try this redpaper (1999): http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/redp0021.html and then, if appealing, look around the redbook site for current implementations: http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/ Chris Mason On Wed, 7 Mar

Re: Interfacing with the MainFrame

2012-03-08 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4274496589392669.wa.dropipopigmail@bama.ua.edu, on 03/07/2012 at 03:51 PM, Ed Mackmahon dropip...@gmail.com said: I intend that the interface will logon to the mainframe and issue some operator commands, If you really mean *operator* commands, that conflicts with The user which will

Interfacing with the MainFrame

2012-03-07 Thread Ed Mackmahon
Hi How would you prefer a product running on a server outside the mainframe will interface with the mainframe? Some Ideas i had: 1. Using a macro emulator that simulate a user which logon as a regular user, snap shot the screen display and parse the results on the open. 2. Using FTP

Re: Interfacing with the MainFrame

2012-03-07 Thread Sam Siegel
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Ed Mackmahon dropip...@gmail.com wrote: Hi How would you prefer a product running on a server outside the mainframe will interface with the mainframe? Some Ideas i had: 1. Using a macro emulator that simulate a user which logon as a regular user, snap

Re: Interfacing with the MainFrame

2012-03-07 Thread Schneck.Glenn
Ed, I would use a Service Oriented Architecture approach. Glenn -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Mackmahon Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 3:47 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Interfacing with the MainFrame Hi

Re: Interfacing with the MainFrame

2012-03-07 Thread Charles Mills
List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Mackmahon Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 12:47 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Interfacing with the MainFrame Hi How would you prefer a product running on a server outside the mainframe will interface with the mainframe? Some Ideas i had

Interfacing with the MainFrame

2012-03-07 Thread Ed Mackmahon
Hi How would you prefer a product running on a server outside the mainframe will interface with the mainframe? Some Ideas i had: 1. Using a macro emulator that simulate a user which logon as a regular user, snap shot the screen display and parse the results on the open. 2. Using FTP

Re: Interfacing with the MainFrame

2012-03-07 Thread Charles Mills
Subject: Re: Interfacing with the MainFrame I have a lot of experience designing commercially successful products that ran with one foot on the mainframe and one foot on a little white box. Can you say (without divulging that which you are not willing to divulge) what in broad strokes the product

Re: Interfacing with the MainFrame

2012-03-07 Thread Scott Ford
I want to echo what evened said ..what are you trying to do ? What kind of application are you talking to ? Network type ? Security type ? Firewalls ? Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Mar 7, 2012, at 3:47 PM, Ed Mackmahon dropip...@gmail.com

Re: Interfacing with the MainFrame

2012-03-07 Thread Hal Merritt
to be addressed. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Mackmahon Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 2:47 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Interfacing with the MainFrame Hi How would you prefer a product running on a server

Re: Interfacing with the MainFrame

2012-03-07 Thread McKown, John
[mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Mackmahon Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 3:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Interfacing with the MainFrame Hi How would you prefer a product running on a server outside the mainframe will interface with the mainframe? Some

Re: Interfacing with the MainFrame

2012-03-07 Thread Ed Mackmahon
Many thanks for your answers. Let me provide some more information I intend that the interface will logon to the mainframe and issue some operator commands, read some members etc... gather information and send it to the open systems server for further analysis. The user which will be used for

Re: Interfacing with the MainFrame

2012-03-07 Thread Ed Mackmahon
If I recall using SSH on the USS impose on the client to implement IBM ported tools which not all clients do... would it be a fare preq ? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: Interfacing with the MainFrame

2012-03-07 Thread Ed Mackmahon
Hi Hal. Thanks for your comments... I will use the FTP just for lets say putting the Rexx in an AXR eligable dataset and using the exit make it run, gather information into a dataset and do an FTP get... something like that The volume of the data is not big so I suppose performance won't

Re: Interfacing with the MainFrame

2012-03-07 Thread Scott Ford
Ugh Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Mar 7, 2012, at 5:01 PM, Ed Mackmahon dropip...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Hal. Thanks for your comments... I will use the FTP just for lets say putting the Rexx in an AXR eligable dataset and using the exit

Re: Interfacing with the MainFrame

2012-03-07 Thread McKown, John
Company.SM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Mackmahon Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 3:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Interfacing with the MainFrame If I recall using SSH on the USS impose

Re: Interfacing with the MainFrame

2012-03-07 Thread Scott Ford
: Interfacing with the MainFrame Hi How would you prefer a product running on a server outside the mainframe will interface with the mainframe? Some Ideas i had: 1. Using a macro emulator that simulate a user which logon as a regular user, snap shot the screen display

Re: Interfacing with the MainFrame

2012-03-07 Thread Scott Ford
- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Mackmahon Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 3:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Interfacing with the MainFrame If I recall using SSH on the USS impose on the client to implement IBM ported tools

Re: Interfacing with the MainFrame

2012-03-07 Thread McKown, John
[mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Ford Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 4:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Interfacing with the MainFrame I like free beer...I though SSH was part of z/os if not racfcert... Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer

Re: Interfacing with the MainFrame

2012-03-07 Thread Ed Mackmahon
Hi. I supposed that if an organization have FTP implemented getting the standard FTP authorizations such as FW, NETACCESS, PORTACCESS, STACKACCESS etc... The only unique user profile would be display commends (another option is to use surrogate and run with different user..)

Re: Interfacing with the MainFrame

2012-03-07 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 3/7/2012 12:47 PM, Ed Mackmahon wrote: How would you prefer a product running on a server outside the mainframe will interface with the mainframe? Web services? -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 310-338-0400 x318

Re: Interfacing with the MainFrame

2012-03-07 Thread Kirk Wolf
Subject: Re: Interfacing with the MainFrame I like free beer...I though SSH was part of z/os if not racfcert... Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Mar 7, 2012, at 5:04 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: Ah

Re: Interfacing with the MainFrame

2012-03-07 Thread Scott Ford
That would be another way, httpd on z/os , have a cgi do the work, tats. Good one Ed. Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Mar 7, 2012, at 5:28 PM, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: On 3/7/2012 12:47 PM, Ed Mackmahon wrote: How would

Re: Interfacing with the MainFrame

2012-03-07 Thread Scott Ford
Btdt on screen scraping, extremely ugly and of course inflexible..a better way being an application API of some sort .. Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Mar 7, 2012, at 5:24 PM, Ed Mackmahon dropip...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. I supposed that if an

Re: Interfacing with the MainFrame

2012-03-07 Thread zMan
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote: That would be another way, httpd on z/os , have a cgi do the work, tats. Good one Ed. Scott, Web services doesn't mean httpd+cgi, it means SOA (WSDL, etc.). Which has already been suggested. Whatever you do, you want to

Re: Interfacing with the MainFrame

2012-03-07 Thread Kirk Wolf
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.comwrote: On 3/7/2012 12:47 PM, Ed Mackmahon wrote: How would you prefer a product running on a server outside the mainframe will interface with the mainframe? Web services? You might look at IBM's z/OS Jobs REST

Re: Interfacing with the MainFrame

2012-03-07 Thread Ed Mackmahon
Hi. Thanks for your comments. Can you elaborate on the requirement on client side for using Web services? - Does in involve CICS / IMS DC? - Can you impement WEB service under AXR ? - Does the CICS should interface with TCP ? is this more eligible then FTP? - How would the Web Service can

Re: Interfacing with the MainFrame

2012-03-07 Thread Chris Craddock
So basically, you're planning to create a product and you want us to describe how to do it? Sent from my iPad On Mar 7, 2012, at 3:51 PM, Ed Mackmahon dropip...@gmail.com wrote: Many thanks for your answers. Let me provide some more information I intend that the interface will logon to

Re: Interfacing with the MainFrame

2012-03-07 Thread Pires, Antonio
] On Behalf Of Chris Craddock Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 4:45 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Interfacing with the MainFrame So basically, you're planning to create a product and you want us to describe how to do it? Sent from my iPad On Mar 7, 2012, at 3:51 PM, Ed Mackmahon dropip

Re: Interfacing with the MainFrame

2012-03-07 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
] On Behalf Of Ed Mackmahon Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 2:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Interfacing with the MainFrame Hi Hal. Thanks for your comments... I will use the FTP just for lets say putting the Rexx in an AXR eligable dataset and using the exit make it run, gather

Re: Interfacing with the MainFrame

2012-03-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 7 Mar 2012 17:36:39 -0500, zMan wrote: Whatever you do, you want to use SSL or equivalent. FTP is dead in the water. Have you discussed this with the developers of, e.g., the SMP/E RECEIVE FROMNETWORK command? I'm waiting breathlessly for the next release. -- gil

Re: Interfacing with the MainFrame

2012-03-07 Thread Tony Harminc
On 7 March 2012 16:51, Ed Mackmahon dropip...@gmail.com wrote: Many thanks for your answers. Let me provide some more information I intend that the interface will logon to the mainframe and issue some operator commands, read some members etc... gather information and send it to the open