Re: LPAR Capping - weight question

2008-05-13 Thread Bruno Sugliani
On Tue, 13 May 2008 05:43:24 +, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you have some terminology problems. CF LPARs are NOT dummies. If you are truly using them as CFs, they should not be used in this manner. It is OK What he means , is , he does not need any CF , but he wants to

Re: LPAR Capping - weight question

2008-05-13 Thread Shane Ginnane
G'day Michael - this is an ugly hack. But you knew that already. Weights being merely guess-timates, I normally set them (for all LPARs) to what you want the box divvied up as when all LPARs are (concurrently) 100% busy. In your case, maybe set the CF LPAR to slightly higher, just for sanity -

Re: LPAR Capping - weight question

2008-05-13 Thread Michael Mcloughlin
Thanks Bruno Shane. I know this is not pretty, but you give me more confidence in what I hope will be a short term solution. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

LPAR Capping - weight question

2008-05-12 Thread Michael Mcloughlin
We wish to follow the advice given in an earlier to cap MSU usage of our 2 LPARs (2 monoplexes) by intoducing a dummy CF LPAR when we upgrade our z890. I understand we should SET DYNDISP OFF. But what would be a good weight for the CF LPAR so it always consume a fixed number of MSUs (capped of

Re: LPAR Capping - weight question

2008-05-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
But what would be a good weight for the CF LPAR so it always consume a fixed number of MSUs (capped of course). CF's do not contribute to MSU charging. They should always be allowed to run without any form of capping or sharing. What problem are you trying to solve? - Too busy driving to stop

Re: LPAR Capping - weight question

2008-05-12 Thread Michael Mcloughlin
But what would be a good weight for the CF LPAR so it always consume a fixed number of MSUs (capped of course). CF's do not contribute to MSU charging. They should always be allowed to run without any form of capping or sharing. What problem are you trying to solve? Upgrading capacity of z890

Re: LPAR Capping - weight question

2008-05-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Upgrading capacity of z890 but capping total MSUs of existing 2 LPARs to 26 MSUs, but also not wanting to cap each LPAR as such (i.e. each LPAR could get the whole 26 MSUs if the other LPAR is idle). Therefore using the dummy CF LPAR to consume the MSUs we do not want to be charged for. I

Re: LPAR Capping

2006-01-01 Thread Bruno Sugliani
On Sun, 1 Jan 2006 10:30:35 +1000, ibm-main [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems you are trying to use for the wrong reason. Why don't weightings fulfil your requirements - especially if you are prepared to use the whole box ???. Soft capping is a *financial* contortion, not a technical aid to solving

Re: LPAR Capping

2005-12-31 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Lately I am seeing a very large difference between the LPAR BUSY TIME PERC and the MVS BUSY TIME PERC fields in the RMF CPU Activity report. The difference is over 20% at peak hours. This was not the case before I started using CF capping. The CF LPAR used to guard MSUs has the highest weight on

Re: LPAR Capping

2005-12-31 Thread Gil Peleg
You're right Ted. In fact, I really dont want to share CPs with the CF. However, the current soft-papping mechanism only allows to soft-cap an LPAR to a certain amount of MSUs. At first I used soft-cap. Then I noticed we encounter situations where one LPAR is being soft-capped, while all the

Re: LPAR Capping

2005-12-31 Thread ibm-main
From: Gil Peleg At first I used soft-cap. Then I noticed we encounter situations where one LPAR is being soft-capped, while all the others are not even close to their defined capacity. From my point of view, this is a poor allocation of resources (which we are paying for). Obviously, If the

Re: LPAR Capping

2005-12-31 Thread Ron and Jenny Hawkins
Ted, That's not quite right. RMF CPU busy is 1-(waittime/interval). There is no MVS Busy field: it is actually CPU Wait Time that gets accumulated and CPU busy is calculated from Wait Time. If a Logical Instruction Processor (LIP) is pre-empted, then it is not in a wait state and there is no

Re: LPAR Capping

2005-12-30 Thread R.S.
CF doesn't *always* take 100% of CPU power. It depends. 100% is taken when only dedicated processors are assigned to CF LPAR. There is a feature called Dynamic CF Dispatching (DCFD), which changes CF behavior on shared engines. In some cases you can switch DCFD off using DYNDISP command.

Re: LPAR Capping

2005-12-30 Thread Bruno Sugliani
On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 18:46:24 +0200, Gil Peleg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lately I am seeing a very large difference between the LPAR BUSY TIME PERC and the MVS BUSY TIME PERC fields in the RMF CPU Activity report. The difference is over 20% at peak hours. This was not the case before I started

Re: LPAR Capping

2005-12-29 Thread Scott Barry
Rick Ralston of Humana presented a CMG paper titled zSeries, Sub-Capacity Workload License Charges, Soft-Caps, and WLM which has some good information on LPAR capping. And if you are concerned with monitoring LPAR capacity and possibly considering workload-based charging (WLC), Al Sherkow's LCS

Re: LPAR Capping

2005-12-29 Thread Bruno Sugliani
On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 01:24:40 +0100, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ooops! The only thing I forgot is you have *ONE* LPAR. Any number you provide to the LPAR will give 100%... Well... Maybe you have to add another LPAR. AFAIK it can be done dynamically, but not on z/800. BTW: Depending on your

LPAR Capping

2005-12-28 Thread Martin, Mike
Hi, We just went to LPAR mode from basic mode. We have a 2066-002 (z800) that is about 350 MIPS. We currently only have a single LPAR, but we wish to CAP the LPAR at 200 MIPS. (for ISV charging purposes) Is this easy to do? How? Can it be done without a POR or IPL? Thanks for any help!

Re: LPAR Capping

2005-12-28 Thread Hal Merritt
] On Behalf Of Martin, Mike Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 2:48 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: LPAR Capping Hi, We just went to LPAR mode from basic mode. We have a 2066-002 (z800) that is about 350 MIPS. We currently only have a single LPAR, but we wish to CAP the LPAR at 200 MIPS. (for ISV

Re: LPAR Capping

2005-12-28 Thread R.S.
Martin, Mike wrote: Hi, We just went to LPAR mode from basic mode. We have a 2066-002 (z800) that is about 350 MIPS. We currently only have a single LPAR, but we wish to CAP the LPAR at 200 MIPS. (for ISV charging purposes) Is this easy to do? How? Can it be done without a POR or IPL?