Re: Test DASD performance tools

2010-09-02 Thread Ed Gould
--- On Sun, 8/29/10, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net wrote: From: Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net Subject: Re: Test DASD performance tools To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 4:23 PM Ron, I understand your viewpoint, but it's hard for a customer shop to choose the RIGHT 24

Re: Test DASD performance tools

2010-09-02 Thread Rick Fochtman
---snip --- On Sun, 8/29/10, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net wrote: From: Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net Subject: Re: Test DASD performance tools To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 4:23 PM Ron, I understand your

Re: Test DASD performance tools

2010-08-30 Thread Ron Hawkins
Fochtman Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 2:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Test DASD performance tools Ron, I understand your viewpoint, but it's hard for a customer shop to choose the RIGHT 24 hours to model. They can pick a worst case, like maybe end-of-month or end

Re: Test DASD performance tools

2010-08-29 Thread Rick Fochtman
in that category. Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 1:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Test DASD performance tools

Re: Test DASD performance tools

2010-08-28 Thread Ron Hawkins
at the outset. Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 3:47 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Test DASD performance tools that this sort of warranty protects

Re: Test DASD performance tools

2010-08-27 Thread Ron Hawkins
: Thursday, August 26, 2010 12:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Test DASD performance tools I say get the vendors to provide the tools and/or analysis to prove their claims. They may ask for SMF data from the existing environment to put through their modeling tools. Make

Re: Test DASD performance tools

2010-08-27 Thread Shane
That's a good idea, providing the customer is willing to provide accurate description of what they want to have modeled. SMF has a lot of really good averages, but very little in the way of detailed access patterns. Can you tell skip sequential access from random with a Type 74 record? Can a

Re: Test DASD performance tools

2010-08-27 Thread Ron Hawkins
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Shane Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 5:57 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Test DASD performance tools That's a good idea, providing the customer is willing to provide accurate

Re: Test DASD performance tools

2010-08-27 Thread Rick Fochtman
snip--- That's a good idea, providing the customer is willing to provide accurate description of what they want to have modeled. SMF has a lot of really good averages, but very little in the way of detailed access patterns.

Re: Test DASD performance tools

2010-08-27 Thread Ted MacNEIL
that this sort of warranty protects the performance guy at a customer site from actually having to understand IO performance. Cheap shot - I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation! Kimota! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe

Re: Test DASD performance tools

2010-08-27 Thread Ron Hawkins
Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Test DASD performance tools snip-- - That's a good idea, providing the customer is willing to provide accurate description of what they want to have modeled. SMF has a lot of really good averages

Re: Test DASD performance tools

2010-08-26 Thread Ron Hawkins
, August 25, 2010 10:00 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Test DASD performance tools Save yourself some time. The PA/IODRIVER is not free. Bill Fairchild Rocket Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf

Re: Test DASD performance tools

2010-08-26 Thread Hal Merritt
. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Hawkins Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 10:32 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Test DASD performance tools Hal, I don't this is a hard and fast rule to go by, especially as response

Re: Test DASD performance tools

2010-08-26 Thread Bruce Richardson
I say get the vendors to provide the tools and/or analysis to prove their claims. They may ask for SMF data from the existing environment to put through their modeling tools. Make sure they ask for specific SMF record types, as you do not want to send huge volumes of SMF data to the vendors.

Test DASD performance tools

2010-08-25 Thread Tommy Tsui
Hi all, Our shop needs to compare the EMC IBM DASD performance. Is there any free tools to test the DASD performance? such as online CICS/Batch performance? Many thanks -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Test DASD performance tools

2010-08-25 Thread Hal Merritt
...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Tommy Tsui Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 9:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Test DASD performance tools Hi all, Our shop needs to compare the EMC IBM DASD performance. Is there any free tools to test the DASD performance? such as online CICS/Batch performance

Re: Test DASD performance tools

2010-08-25 Thread Ron Hawkins
...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Hal Merritt Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 7:32 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Test DASD performance tools The bottom line in DASD performance is response time. RMF reports that. How well a given vendor performs in a given situation would

Re: Test DASD performance tools

2010-08-25 Thread Staller, Allan
PA/IODRIVER http://www.perfassoc.com/ snip Our shop needs to compare the EMC IBM DASD performance. Is there any free tools to test the DASD performance? such as online CICS/Batch performance? /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe

Re: Test DASD performance tools

2010-08-25 Thread Ron Hawkins
-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: [IBM-MAIN] Test DASD performance tools Hi all, Our shop needs to compare the EMC IBM DASD performance. Is there any free tools to test the DASD performance? such as online CICS/Batch performance? Many thanks

Re: Test DASD performance tools

2010-08-25 Thread Bill Fairchild
DASD performance tools PA/IODRIVER http://www.perfassoc.com/ snip Our shop needs to compare the EMC IBM DASD performance. Is there any free tools to test the DASD performance? such as online CICS/Batch performance? /snip