Re: ICSF/CSNBOWH (was: load mmodules copying to other site)

2012-04-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4914821700290639.wa.walt.farrellgmail@bama.ua.edu, on 04/24/2012 at 11:33 AM, Walt Farrell walt.farr...@gmail.com said: As often happens when people include links in sentences, his sentence-ending punctuation (. ) was taken as part of the link. Which is why enclusing a URL in is best

Re: ICSF/CSNBOWH (was: load mmodules copying to other site)

2012-04-24 Thread Greg Boyd
Starting with ICSF HCR7750 and the z9, ICSF relies on the CPACF hardware on the host for the full SHA support (SHA-1 as well as SHA-2). The CP Assist (CP Assist for Cryptographic Function) is running compliant implementations of the SHA algorithms. For the z196, see Cert #1497 at

Re: ICSF/CSNBOWH (was: load mmodules copying to other site)

2012-04-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 10:00:46 -0500, Greg Boyd wrote: Starting with ICSF HCR7750 and the z9, ICSF relies on the CPACF hardware on the host for the full SHA support (SHA-1 as well as SHA-2). The CP Assist (CP Assist for Cryptographic Function) is running compliant implementations of the SHA

Re: ICSF/CSNBOWH (was: load mmodules copying to other site)

2012-04-24 Thread Rob Schramm
Worked for me. Rob Schramm Senior Systems Consultant Imperium Group On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 10:00:46 -0500, Greg Boyd wrote: Starting with ICSF HCR7750 and the z9, ICSF relies on the CPACF hardware on the host for the

Re: ICSF/CSNBOWH (was: load mmodules copying to other site)

2012-04-24 Thread Walt Farrell
On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 11:15:37 -0500, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 10:00:46 -0500, Greg Boyd wrote: Starting with ICSF HCR7750 and the z9, ICSF relies on the CPACF hardware on the host for the full SHA support (SHA-1 as well as SHA-2). The CP Assist (CP Assist

Re: ICSF/CSNBOWH (was: load mmodules copying to other site)

2012-04-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 12:23:39 -0400, Rob Schramm wrote: Worked for me. Starting with ICSF HCR7750 and the z9, ICSF relies on the CPACF hardware on the host for the full SHA support (SHA-1 as well as SHA-2).  The CP Assist (CP Assist for Cryptographic Function) is running compliant

Re: ICSF/CSNBOWH (was: load mmodules copying to other site)

2012-04-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 11:33:08 -0500, Walt Farrell wrote: Starting with ICSF HCR7750 and the z9, ICSF relies on the CPACF hardware on the host for the full SHA support (SHA-1 as well as SHA-2). The CP Assist (CP Assist for Cryptographic Function) is running compliant implementations of the SHA

Re: ICSF/CSNBOWH (was: load mmodules copying to other site)

2012-04-24 Thread Walt Farrell
On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 12:05:28 -0500, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: Hmmm. This could be the basis for the APAR IO11698 fiasco two years ago in which IBM manfestly allowed an integrity exposure to remain unrepaired but provided a means of limiting access to the dangerous tool. No,

ICSF/CSNBOWH (was: load mmodules copying to other site)

2012-04-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 (last year) 20:07:42 -0500, Paul Gilmartin (I) wrote: If you have ICSF, there's CSNBOWH. See Rexx samples in SYS1.SAMPLIB(CSF*). There's a manual somewhere. A few days ago, I received an off-list communication from a colleague who tried this, then attempted to replicate the

Re: load mmodules copying to other site

2011-09-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 6533006138111618.wa.paulgboulderaim@bama.ua.edu, on 09/01/2011 at 09:40 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: About half. For large values of half. IEBUPDTE will load a PDS IEBUPDTE input has been used as a distibution medium for source code for decades, but it is *not* a

Re: load mmodules copying to other site

2011-09-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 08:33:50 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: IEBUPDTE input has been used as a distibution medium for source code for decades, but it is *not* a PDS load utility and it is not possible to construct an IEBUPDTE input stream to build an arbitrary PDS, even an arbitrary

Re: load mmodules copying to other site

2011-09-01 Thread Steve Conway
Dave and Gil, Your suggestion worked fine for a single member: T$SFC:/u/t4sfc: cp -B //'sys3.clist(rdmstat)' /dev/fd1 | cksum 260387907 21600 It also works fine for a sequential file: T$SFC:/u/t4sfc: cp -B //'SYS3.FTP.NETRC' /dev/fd1 | cksum 2567740904 240 It fails for an entire

Re: load mmodules copying to other site

2011-09-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 1 Sep 2011 10:51:14 -0400, Steve Conway wrote: Dave and Gil, Your suggestion worked fine for a single member: T$SFC:/u/t4sfc: cp -B //'sys3.clist(rdmstat)' /dev/fd1 | cksum 260387907 21600 It also works fine for a sequential file: T$SFC:/u/t4sfc: cp -B //'SYS3.FTP.NETRC' /dev/fd1

Re: load mmodules copying to other site

2011-09-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1314835540.55397.yahoomailclas...@web31807.mail.mud.yahoo.com, on 08/31/2011 at 05:05 PM, Cris Hernandez #9 hernandez...@yahoo.com said: I'd start with standard IBM utility (iebupdte) to unload the pds to a sequential file, NFW! That's an update utility, not a load/unload utility. Use TSO

Re: load mmodules copying to other site

2011-09-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 1 Sep 2011 11:58:47 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In 1314835540.55397.yahoomailclas...@web31807.mail.mud.yahoo.com, on 08/31/2011 at 05:05 PM, Cris Hernandez #9 said: I'd start with standard IBM utility (iebupdte) to unload the pds to a sequential file, NFW! That's an update

Re: load mmodules copying to other site

2011-08-31 Thread Barkow, Eileen
: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 5:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: load mmodules copying to other site 1. ftp is working, it is supported (with some limitations) for load module transmission since OS/390 2.10 (AFAIR). 2. There are many methods to do that. One of them, the method allows

Re: load mmodules copying to other site

2011-08-31 Thread Art Gutowski
On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 16:48:14 -0400, Tim Brown tbr...@cenhud.com wrote: How can one get 1 pds with modules from one site to another, FTP is not working I first tried tersing the pds, transferring via pc/file transfer and untersing and copying Into loadlib The untersed file on the remote end

Re: load mmodules copying to other site

2011-08-31 Thread Hal Merritt
] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 6:09 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: load mmodules copying to other site XMIT in to a file (see help xmit) ftp (binary) RECEIVE from a file - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -Original Message- From: Tim

Re: load mmodules copying to other site

2011-08-31 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 11:19:55 -0500, Hal Merritt wrote: Don't use binary for z/os to z/os. This defeats compression which can speed things up quite a bit. Use binary only when passing through a Windows machine to avoid unwanted translation/corruption. Beware. If, for example, TSO TRANSMIT

Re: load mmodules copying to other site

2011-08-31 Thread Hal Merritt
. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 11:28 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: load mmodules copying to other site On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 11:19:55 -0500, Hal Merritt wrote: Don't

Re: load mmodules copying to other site

2011-08-31 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 11:37:44 -0500, Hal Merritt wrote: Depending on your FTP defaults, you may need to explicitly say TYPE E then MODE C. Correctly stating the data type is worth the effort IMHO. However, as I said, data passing through a Windows box is subject to corruption / translation.

Re: load mmodules copying to other site

2011-08-31 Thread Steve Conway
What would you use to do a checksum on z/OS? Steven F. Conway, CISSP LA Systems z/OS Systems Support Phone: 703.295.1926 steve_con...@ao.uscourts.gov From: Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 08/31/2011 02:00 PM Subject:Re: load mmodules copying

Re: load mmodules copying to other site

2011-08-31 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 14:46:50 -0400, Steve Conway wrote: What would you use to do a checksum on z/OS? If you use GIMZIP/GIMUNZIP as Art suggested, a checksum will be created and checked. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: load mmodules copying to other site

2011-08-31 Thread Steve Conway
Systems z/OS Systems Support Phone: 703.295.1926 steve_con...@ao.uscourts.gov From: Tom Marchant m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 08/31/2011 02:56 PM Subject:Re: load mmodules copying to other site Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN

Re: load mmodules copying to other site

2011-08-31 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2011-08-31 18:28, Paul Gilmartin pisze: On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 11:19:55 -0500, Hal Merritt wrote: Don't use binary for z/os to z/os. This defeats compression which can speed things up quite a bit. Use binary only when passing through a Windows machine to avoid unwanted

Re: load mmodules copying to other site

2011-08-31 Thread Gibney, Dave
-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Steve Conway Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 12:09 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: load mmodules copying to other site Thanks, Tom. I was responding to Gil's post, in which he was going z/OS - desktop - z/OS, no mention of GIMZIP / GIMUNZIP

Re: load mmodules copying to other site

2011-08-31 Thread Cris Hernandez #9
I'd start with standard IBM utility (iebupdte) to unload the pds to a sequential file, send it, then use same utility to create a new pds (or update) from the sequential file. if it gets screwed up in transmit, deal with it when it happens, the messages in the utility output should indicate

Re: load mmodules copying to other site

2011-08-31 Thread Gibney, Dave
University -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Cris Hernandez #9 Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 5:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: load mmodules copying to other site I'd start with standard IBM utility

Re: load mmodules copying to other site

2011-08-31 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 14:46:50 -0400, Steve Conway steve_con...@ao.uscourts.gov wrote: What would you use to do a checksum on z/OS? cp -B //'DATA.SET.NAME(MEMBER)' /dev/fd/1 | /bin/cksum # (IIRC) -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: load mmodules copying to other site

2011-08-31 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 17:05:40 -0700, Cris Hernandez #9 hernandez...@yahoo.com wrote: I'd start with standard IBM utility (iebupdte) to unload the pds to a sequential file, send it, then use same utility to create a new pds (or update) from the sequential file. if it gets screwed up in

load mmodules copying to other site

2011-08-30 Thread Tim Brown
How can one get 1 pds with modules from one site to another, FTP is not working I first tried tersing the pds, transferring via pc/file transfer and untersing and copying Into loadlib The untersed file on the remote end apperars ok via 3.4 but cant copy the modules Into destination loadlib

Re: load mmodules copying to other site

2011-08-30 Thread Paul Strauss
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Re: load mmodules copying to other site

2011-08-30 Thread Ed Finnell
For a PDS probably don't even need the TERSE, UNTERSE. XMIT with ODSN will produce an 'unloaded' IEBCOPY into a FB 80 3200 dsn. Then FTP bin and RECEIVE IDSN. In a message dated 8/30/2011 3:54:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time, strau...@us.ibm.com writes: Try XMIT, TERSE, FTP, UNTERSE,

Re: load mmodules copying to other site

2011-08-30 Thread R.S.
1. ftp is working, it is supported (with some limitations) for load module transmission since OS/390 2.10 (AFAIR). 2. There are many methods to do that. One of them, the method allows indirect transmission (z/OS-PC-whatever-z/OS): 1. XMIT A.A DA(your.library) OUTDA(X1) 2. get X1 from z/OS to

Re: load mmodules copying to other site

2011-08-30 Thread Tim Brown
Paul Much thanks , Perfect !! Tim -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Strauss Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 4:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: load mmodules copying to other site Try XMIT, TERSE, FTP

Re: load mmodules copying to other site

2011-08-30 Thread Ted MacNEIL
@bama.ua.edu Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: load mmodules copying to other site How can one get 1 pds with modules from one site to another, FTP is not working I first tried tersing the pds, transferring via pc/file transfer and untersing and copying