Re: Beware BPXWDYN (Was: Problem with REXX using OMVS stuff...)

2013-01-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Jan 12, 2013, at 00:26, Edward Jaffe wrote: On 1/11/2013 1:32 PM, Mark Zelden wrote: I'm not in love with BPXWDYN as much as you - only because I haven't used it that much, but I'll keep that in mind if / when I have to make any major updates.All the random DD code predates BPXWDYN

Re: Beware BPXWDYN (Was: Problem with REXX using OMVS stuff...)

2013-01-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
Quoting from a reply on MVS-OE: On Jan 12, 2013, at 00:26, Edward Jaffe wrote: Just this week I discovered a _major_ drawback to BPXWDYN. If OMVS is not up, BPXWDYN will issue the following message and then WAIT for OMVS to initialize: BPXP022E ONE OR MORE JOBS ARE WAITING FOR UNIX SYSTEM

Restore multivolume ZFS

2013-01-14 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi We try to restore a large multivolume ZFS file. Can we do this without preallocation ? (SMS managed extended VSAM) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu

Re: Beware BPXWDYN (Was: Problem with REXX using OMVS stuff...)

2013-01-14 Thread Kirk Wolf
Right: It makes sense to me that BPXWDYN would have to dub if you had MSG(2). Ed: is that what you had? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message:

Re: OT: IBM #1 in number of patents for 2012. It's 20th year in a row to do so.

2013-01-14 Thread Joel C. Ewing
At least prior to the Web, the cloning I observed was within our corporate family code, where it was reasonable to assume corporate ownership of code created at corporate expense, and occasionally from other sources such a SHARE which were explicitly set up for mutual help and sharing. The

Re: Beware BPXWDYN (Was: Problem with REXX using OMVS stuff...)

2013-01-14 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 1/14/2013 8:38 AM, Kirk Wolf wrote: Right: It makes sense to me that BPXWDYN would have to dub if you had MSG(2). Ed: is that what you had? The REXX consists of simple free statements (e.g.): rc = BPXWDYN(free dd(SYSPROC)) rc = BPXWDYN(free dd(SYSEXEC)) rc = BPXWDYN(free dd(ISPLLIB)) rc =

Re: DFHSM ARC07347 MOVE BV, record removal - How?

2013-01-14 Thread retired mainframer
What process is running when the error occurs? :: -Original Message- :: From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On :: Behalf Of Ken Leidner :: Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 6:55 AM :: To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU :: Subject: DFHSM ARC07347 MOVE BV, record

Re: Beware BPXWDYN (Was: Problem with REXX using OMVS stuff...)

2013-01-14 Thread Skip Robinson
I've never used BPXWDYN, but I do know that the ancient practice of FREEing a file that is not currently allocated educes a message to that effect. On the other hand, ALLOCATing with REUSE works 'cleanly' whether or not the file is already allocated. I assume that BPXWDYN honors REUSE... . .

Re: DFHSM ARC07347 MOVE BV, record removal - How?

2013-01-14 Thread Ken Leidner
This is happening when DFHSM does his normal space management retired-mainfra...@q.com says... What process is running when the error occurs? Ken Leidner kleid...@earthlink.net -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: LLA Management of Linklst datasets

2013-01-14 Thread sunil mirchandani
Thanks Mark and All for expert advices. I am clear now on this. Sunil On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Ron Hawkins ronjhawk...@sbcglobal.netwrote: Mark, Thanks. I'm glad to be corrected. I had assumed that linklist is managed similarly to other frozen directories. We all remember Felix

Re: Beware BPXWDYN (Was: Problem with REXX using OMVS stuff...)

2013-01-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:46:03 -0800, Skip Robinson wrote: I've never used BPXWDYN, but I do know that the ancient practice of FREEing a file that is not currently allocated educes a message to that effect. On the other hand, ALLOCATing with REUSE works 'cleanly' whether or not the file is already

Re: Beware BPXWDYN (Was: Problem with REXX using OMVS stuff...)

2013-01-14 Thread Skip Robinson
READY free dd(gil) IKJ56247I FILE GIL NOT FREED, IS NOT ALLOCATED READY alloc dd(gil) dummy reuse READY Q.E.D. . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile

Re: Beware BPXWDYN (Was: Problem with REXX using OMVS stuff...)

2013-01-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:05:47 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: I've never used BPXWDYN, but I do know that the ancient practice of FREEing a file that is not currently allocated educes a message to that effect. On the other hand, ALLOCATing with REUSE works 'cleanly' whether or not the file is already

ADRDSSU + FTP

2013-01-14 Thread Donnelly, John
Good afternoon; wish to FTP an ADRDSSU dataset dump tape from this z/OS to another z/OS. Do we have any alternative other than reloading the individual datasets on this dataset dump tape to disk, FTPing the individual datasets and then unloading these datasets to another ADRDSSU dataset dump

Re: ADRDSSU + FTP

2013-01-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 21:48:57 +, Donnelly, John wrote: Good afternoon; wish to FTP an ADRDSSU dataset dump tape from this z/OS to another z/OS. Do we have any alternative other than reloading the individual datasets on this dataset dump tape to disk, FTPing the individual datasets and then

Re: ADRDSSU + FTP

2013-01-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:59:48 -0600, John McKown wrote: Been said many times, so I remember the ftp commands: EBCDIC MODE B PUT or GET as needed. I think that's all. And, to my recent dismay, I learned that this converts empty records to blanks. (Just verified with z/OS 1.12.) Not good for

Re: SMP/E APPLY CHECK Wish

2013-01-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 08:47:17 -0500, Kurt Quackenbush wrote: On 1/11/2013 4:12 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: Is there a way, in APPLY CHECK GROUP, to see a list of the SYSMODs that will be selected via GROUPEXTEND or GROUP when the actual APPLY is performed? No messages or special report status

FW: ADRDSSU + FTP

2013-01-14 Thread Donnelly, John
But may we input to FTP an ADRDSSU tape, not disk, a tape? John Donnelly Texas Instruments SVA 2900 Semiconductor Drive Santa Clara, CA 95051 408-721-5640 408-470-8364 Cell john.p.donne...@ti.com _ From: Donnelly, John Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013

Re: ADRDSSU + FTP

2013-01-14 Thread Giovanni Bozzetti
John I am not sure if can FTP from a tape, I used always dasd. A better way is use TRSMAIN reading the TAPE (I always use dasd, but TAPE is similar is a sequential file) and creating a XXX.TRS dataset remain very small, then you can send to any place PC, SERVER or aonther z/OS using FTP. In the

Re: ADRDSSU + FTP

2013-01-14 Thread Gibney, Dave
If you have the proper authority to MOUNT (class is TSOAUTH) you can ftp to or from tape. Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Donnelly, John

Re: ADRDSSU + FTP

2013-01-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 23:48:41 +, Gibney, Dave wrote: If you have the proper authority to MOUNT (class is TSOAUTH) you can ftp to or from tape. As I read the DFSMSdss manual, the RECFM shall be forced to U. The programmer has some control of BLKSIZE. SL appears to be OK, and I suppose

Re: ADRDSSU + FTP

2013-01-14 Thread Gibney, Dave
Sorry, I was addressing the tape aspect. I've never tried ftp of an ADRSSU file. Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent:

Re: ADRDSSU + FTP

2013-01-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:59:48 -0600, John McKown wrote: Been said many times, so I remember the ftp commands: EBCDIC MODE B PUT or GET as needed. I think that's all. As noted, this fails on the empty record problem. However, for RECFM=U (possibly via DD override) and z/OS-to-z/OS, BINARY

Re: ADRDSSU + FTP

2013-01-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 07:01:44 +0100, nitz-...@gmx.net wrote: As noted, this fails on the empty record problem. However, for RECFM=U (possibly via DD override) and z/OS-to-z/OS, BINARY PUT works. (Of course, DD override is not possible on GET. Might need LABEL=SL.) They seem to