Re: format of the SVCDUMP DR2 record

2013-05-06 Thread Binyamin Dissen
Thanks. On Sun, 5 May 2013 14:27:41 -0400 Jim Mulder d10j...@us.ibm.com wrote: : I am trying to compare two dumps, a before and after. : : I am noticing a difference on all records at column 29 (for four bytes) :after : the address of the record. What is it? : : Where is the layout? : :

Re: as OpenMVS assembler always gives ASMA935U

2013-05-06 Thread Etienne Thijsse
Thanks, this gives me one extra line: IEC1301 SYSPUNCH DD STATEMENT MISSING This looks like some setup or configuration problem to me, since I am not running any JCL... I'll have to refer this to the system administrator. There are no other files or logs, as far as I can see, containing any as

Re: SAS Deserting the MF?

2013-05-06 Thread Timothy Sipples
I must take issue with the BIPS measurement and the cross-architecture comparisons presented in this discussion. They're extremely misleading at best. MIPS and BIPS are perilous enough within zEnterprise capacity estimations, but they go haywire rapidly when carried elsewhere. That should be

Re: as OpenMVS assembler always gives ASMA935U

2013-05-06 Thread Gibney, Dave
SYSPUNCH is where it needs to put the object deck. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Etienne Thijsse Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 12:11 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: as OpenMVS assembler always gives

Re: Performance gains with LFAREA ?

2013-05-06 Thread Graham Harris
As mentioned already, its all about the TLB. With memory intensive tasks using large pages, it lessens the usage of TLB from what would otherwise be the case, and that potentially benefits (by DAT avoidance) not only the task using large pages, but also every other workload utilising that TLB

Re: SAS Deserting the MF?

2013-05-06 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Timothy Sipples wrote: I must take issue with the BIPS measurement and the cross-architecture comparisons presented in this discussion. They're extremely misleading at best. MIPS and BIPS are perilous enough within zEnterprise capacity estimations, but they go haywire rapidly when carried

Re: as OpenMVS assembler always gives ASMA935U

2013-05-06 Thread J R
SYSPUNCH is required for the assembler DECK option. SYSLIN is required for the assembler OBJECT option. Since an earlier post of yours mentioned pseudo JCL contained a SYSLIN statement, passing assembler options NODECK,OBJECT (in addition to other options that you are already using) may fix

Re: OT - What is the proper term for K notation?

2013-05-06 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In of2170d0c5.b3dd89d3-on85257b60.007023ab-85257b60.00711...@tsys.tss.net, on 05/03/2013 at 04:35 PM, Kirk Talman rkueb...@tsys.com said: But is the notation such that 1234567 = 1205.657Ki? ITYM 1205.631Ki. And how would one write the Mi value to as many places? foo = (foo/1048576)Mi; the

Re: OT - What is the proper term for K notation?

2013-05-06 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In cajtoo5_ed5s0uqief8aytixs1-ey5fcda-_xcz3k3spqyjn...@mail.gmail.com, on 05/03/2013 at 05:22 PM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com said: When you build a memory chip, the input is X number of address bits, Hasn't anybody built ternary memory? Silly wabbit, trits are for kids. When you

Re: OT - What is the proper term for K notation?

2013-05-06 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 8d96815f-e298-46fd-9ef5-f3c53f0a1...@yahoo.com, on 05/03/2013 at 06:08 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said: I always used K, with the understanding it was 1024 I guess that you never programmed the CDC 6x00 and Cyber 70 machines, where they referred to 512 as octal K. --

Re: OT - What is the proper term for K notation?

2013-05-06 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In cae1xxdfkms1d9p+emdpioapnugq-rvtanjcvxo+uuz99r8s...@mail.gmail.com, on 05/04/2013 at 08:56 AM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said: In situations of this kind the needs of the unlettered must come first. The word 'inflammable' does not mean 'cannot be set aflame'; some of the unlettered

Re: as OpenMVS assembler always gives ASMA935U

2013-05-06 Thread Lloyd Fuller
Or just specify the GOFF (-mGOFF) option which forces OBJECT and is MUCH more useful when combining things with C. Lloyd - Original Message From: J R jayare...@hotmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Mon, May 6, 2013 7:13:13 AM Subject: Re: as OpenMVS assembler always gives

Re: OT - What is the proper term for K notation?

2013-05-06 Thread Lloyd Fuller
Actually, Univac played with it back in the 1960s/1970s. I believe they were working with someone from OSU. As far as I know, they never marketed a product with it, but it was at least researched. Lloyd - Original Message From: Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+...@patriot.net To:

blue sky thought: new class of member name in a PDS

2013-05-06 Thread John McKown
Or maybe just for a PDSE since PDSes are basically moribund. This is just a weird thought, feel free to call me an idiot. But there are two classes of members in a PDS at present. There are normal member and there are ALIASes. It generally seems that an ALIAS does not contain a TTR per se, but

Re: SAS Deserting the MF?

2013-05-06 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
sipp...@sg.ibm.com (Timothy Sipples) writes: I must take issue with the BIPS measurement and the cross-architecture comparisons presented in this discussion. They're extremely misleading at best. MIPS and BIPS are perilous enough within zEnterprise capacity estimations, but they go haywire

Re: SAS Deserting the MF?

2013-05-06 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#5 SAS Deserting the MF? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#7 SAS Deserting the MF? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#9 SAS Deserting the MF? one of the claims about x86 performance increase in BIPS over the past decade has been attributed to

Re: blue sky thought: new class of member name in a PDS

2013-05-06 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 5/6/2013 6:58 AM, John McKown wrote: ... It generally seems that an ALIAS does not contain a TTR per se, but actually contains the actual member name. Am I remembering correctly? From IGWSMDE: THE FOLLOWING IS A CASE BY CASE DIAGRAM OF THE POSSIBLE SECTIONS CONTAINED IN THE SMDE: 1)

Re: blue sky thought: new class of member name in a PDS

2013-05-06 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
John McKown wrote: ... feel free to call me an idiot. No. I will *NOT* do that. It generally seems that an ALIAS does not contain a TTR per se, but actually contains the actual member name. AFAIK, ALIAS does contains a TTR, but that is the same as the original member. If so, then why

Re: blue sky thought: new class of member name in a PDS

2013-05-06 Thread John McKown
UNIX is rather easy: cat file1 file2 file3 otherfile prefix-of-files* | command quite often, if the command expects one or more files, then a single dash can stand for read stdin at this point. In Linux (and z/OS) shell, it is possible to read /dev/fd/0 if the command doesn't implement the - as

Re: blue sky thought: new class of member name in a PDS

2013-05-06 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 5/6/2013 9:58 AM, John McKown wrote: This is just a weird thought, feel free to call me an idiot. But there are two classes of members in a PDS at present. There are normal member and there are ALIASes. It generally seems that an ALIAS does not contain a TTR per se, but actually contains the

Re: blue sky thought: new class of member name in a PDS

2013-05-06 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 05/06/2013 08:58 AM, John McKown wrote: Or maybe just for a PDSE since PDSes are basically moribund. This is just a weird thought, feel free to call me an idiot. But there are two classes of members in a PDS at present. There are normal member and there are ALIASes. It generally seems that

Re: blue sky thought: new class of member name in a PDS

2013-05-06 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
John McKown wrote: UNIX is rather easy: cat file1 file2 file3 otherfile prefix-of-files* | command Thanks for oiling my rusting memory. grin REXX is also easy. That is if you don't care to have an extra member containing a list of members. Just 2 loops. One loop for list of member(s) and

Re: OE Historical article re: Mainframes

2013-05-06 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
In such a historical overview, you have to make a selection. Of course, there are other machines also to be considered mainframes, for example General Electric machines or machines in foreign countries, Europe or the Soviet Union. Some of them were very powerful and sophisticated and built in

Re: OE Historical article re: Mainframes

2013-05-06 Thread Ron Wells
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/computinghistory/610.html From: Bernd Oppolzer bernd.oppol...@t-online.de To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 05/06/2013 10:35 AM Subject:Re: OE Historical article re: Mainframes Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: OE Historical article re: Mainframes

2013-05-06 Thread Ron Wells
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_computer_hardware_in_Soviet_Bloc_countries From: Bernd Oppolzer bernd.oppol...@t-online.de To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 05/06/2013 10:35 AM Subject:Re: OE Historical article re: Mainframes Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion

Re: OE Historical article re: Mainframes

2013-05-06 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Ron Wells wrote: http://www.columbia.edu/cu/computinghistory/610.html Thanks. Very Interesting Article! ;-D I have ADDed this nice acronym in that article to my list of acronyms: CADET - Can't Add, Doesn't Even Try grin Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht

Re: OE Historical article re: Mainframes

2013-05-06 Thread Ron Wells
http://www.homecomputer.de/pages/easteurope_ro.html -- Email Disclaimer This E-mail contains confidential information belonging to the sender, which may be legally privileged information. This information is intended

Re: OE Historical article re: Mainframes

2013-05-06 Thread Ron Wells
interesting to see what other were up too... -- Email Disclaimer This E-mail contains confidential information belonging to the sender, which may be legally privileged information. This information is intended only for

BMC

2013-05-06 Thread Kirk Talman
Anyone else just start getting email from BMC - one about the buyout and another a survey? I can't remember getting this before. It looks like they scraped e-addresses off this list. - The information contained in this communication (including any

Re: BMC

2013-05-06 Thread Jousma, David
Yea, there is also a new article that they were just sold to a private equity group. Don't know if that really means anything, other than going private. _ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Engineering

Re: BMC

2013-05-06 Thread Neil Haley
BMC has been sold, http://money.cnn.com/2013/05/06/technology/enterprise/bmc-software/index.html Regards, Neil Haley nha...@ca.ibm.com Storage Software Mainframe Support http://www.ibm.com/systems/z/ | http://www.about.me/NeilHaley From: Kirk Talman rkueb...@tsys.com To:

Re: BMC

2013-05-06 Thread Ed Finnell
Yeah, I just saw it go past on Bloomberg. Bain Golden Gate Capitol for $6.9B. Probably means the software prices will change. Haven't gotten any spam from them yet mostly online viagra, match.com, and Uphold the 2nd A mendment. FWIW Bloomberg has a new show called the Brink. Monday at

BMC going Private

2013-05-06 Thread Lizette Koehler
Cross Posting to IMS, DB2, IBMMAIN BMC Software will be taken private for $46.25 a share in cash, or roughly $6.9 billion, by a group led by Bain Capital and Golden Gate Capital. The deal represents one of the biggest leveraged buyouts of the year.

EMC 6000 Virtual Tape Drive

2013-05-06 Thread Mike Wojtukiewicz
Does anyone out there have ANY experience with the EMC DLm6000 virtual tape server. I am working for a MAJOR software developer who got one of these for free. They provided almost NO documentation. What little doc I have only peripherally talks about SMS routines, RMM, and how to run

Re: What Makes code storage management so cool?

2013-05-06 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
Dan Espen des...@verizon.net writes: z/OS still has LPA. The term for modules that are sharable is reentrant. Everything in LPA is _not_ mapped into every address space. Just the modules used. so LPA came up in one of my virtual memory arguments with the POK favorite son batch operating

Re: BMC

2013-05-06 Thread Bill Johnson
Private equity tends to streamline the organization, load it up with debt, and then try to sell it later or take it public. See Dunkin Donuts. I doubt they'll have much leverage to raise prices for products that are already some of the highest on the mainframe.

Re: BMC

2013-05-06 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
My apologies. That last post of mine was meant to be private. Thank You, Dave O'Brien NIH Contractor From: Bill Johnson [mellonb...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 2:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: BMC Private equity tends to

Re: EMC 6000 Virtual Tape Drive

2013-05-06 Thread Bob Shannon
The manuals can be downloaded. EMC should have provided someone in your organization with an Id and password to their website. If they didn't just ask your EMC contact. Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Destination z -- Back to the Future -- Don't Reinvent Mainframe Wheels

2013-05-06 Thread Gabe Goldberg
Back to the Future -- Don't Reinvent Mainframe Wheels Passing on System z wisdom pays off for you and your organization http://ow.ly/kBl9Z or http://destinationz.org/Mainframe-Solution/Trends/Pass-on-System-z-Wisdom.aspx -- Gabriel Goldberg, Computers and Publishing, Inc.

OT- Sysprog in Rome

2013-05-06 Thread Richard Pinion
US mainframe sysprog is in Rome on Holiday. Any mainframe sysprogs from Rome monitoring IBM-Main? _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: BMC

2013-05-06 Thread Mitch
maybe now is the time to consider converting away from BMC. Questions, anyone? Regards, Mitch McCluhan, Legacy Modernization -Original Message- From: Bill Johnson mellonb...@yahoo.com To: IBM-MAIN IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Mon, May 6, 2013 11:32 am Subject: Re: BMC

Re: EMC 6000 Virtual Tape Drive

2013-05-06 Thread Darth Keller
Do you have any experience with virtual tapes? We went from a couple of IBM B20 libraries to an HDS MDL which uses the Bustech (now EMC) to front-end HDS storage. We had to switch from SMS Automated Tape Libraries to a Manual Tape Library. We defined new tape ranges, dataclas, and

Re: Destination z -- Back to the Future -- Don't Reinvent Mainframe Wheels

2013-05-06 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Gabe Goldberg wrote: Back to the Future -- Don't Reinvent Mainframe Wheels Passing on System z wisdom pays off for you and your organization http://destinationz.org/Mainframe-Solution/Trends/Pass-on-System-z-Wisdom.aspx Thanks. Very very interesting! Oh, that brings me memories... ;-) Some

Re: BMC

2013-05-06 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Mitch wrote: maybe now is the time to consider converting away from BMC. Questions, anyone? Yes. What products and to whom to convert to? They have a gazillion products which have apparently no competitors... Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht

Re: Destination z -- Back to the Future -- Don't Reinvent Mainframe Wheels

2013-05-06 Thread Ed Finnell
Yup. Especially robust when they claimed 'we can replace all mainframe functions' for $25K. Then 3 server upgrades and 8 new personnel totaling over $1M; drop the database on Friday before new fundraiser. Backups not usable. When smoke cleared, junked the whole department. In a message

Re: EMC 6000 Virtual Tape Drive

2013-05-06 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 6 May 2013 14:34:23 -0500, Darth Keller darth.kel...@assurant.com wrote: Question - why do you need 2 sizes of tape? Seems like unnecessary complication to me. We defined it with very large virtual tape as, unlike the B20's, there is no space (or very little space) required for the

OAM - CBR0054I

2013-05-06 Thread Mark Pace
We recently removed our 3494 tape library. So we stopped using DFRMM and OAM. Today we are installing a Luminex virtual tape system. I've recreated all the tape stuff in SMS, DC, SG, SC and library. When I go to start OAM I get message CBR0054I OAM has initialized without object tape support.

Re: BMC

2013-05-06 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2013-05-06 22:52, Elardus Engelbrecht pisze: Mitch wrote: maybe now is the time to consider converting away from BMC. Questions, anyone? Yes. What products and to whom to convert to? They have a gazillion products which have apparently no competitors... There are also gazillion

Re: OE Historical article re: Mainframes

2013-05-06 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
West Germany: from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telefunken: The mainframe computer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainframe_computer TR 4 was developed at Telefunken in Backnang http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backnang, and the TR 440 model was developed at Telefunken in Konstanz

Re: BMC

2013-05-06 Thread Ed Gould
Bill: Indeed prices of BMC are higher than most CA products (that I have seen). Was it BMC that bought the company that had all the DB2 utilities? I lost track of who bought what. Ed On May 6, 2013, at 1:32 PM, Bill Johnson wrote: Private equity tends to streamline the organization, load

Re: BMC

2013-05-06 Thread DASDBILL2
BMC had a passel of DB2 tools, as also does CA, and CA got theirs from acquiring Platinum. Bill Fairchild Franklin, TN - Original Message - From: Ed Gould edgould1...@comcast.net To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 4:43:55 PM Subject: Re: BMC Bill: Indeed

Re: BMC

2013-05-06 Thread Bill Johnson
BMC bought MQ Software (QPASA) a couple of years ago. Then renamed it some ridiculously long BMC middleware management.name. From: Ed Gould edgould1...@comcast.net To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 5:43 PM Subject: Re: BMC

Re: OAM - CBR0054I

2013-05-06 Thread John McKown
OAM is obsolete. Remember mainframe based optical drives? That's what OAM was for. It interfaced with DB2 which was where it kept it's catalog. OTIS was in there too, somewhere. Ignore it. I do with no problems. On May 6, 2013 4:04 PM, Mark Pace pacemainl...@gmail.com wrote: We recently removed

Re: OAM - CBR0054I

2013-05-06 Thread Lizette Koehler
OAM is used for SMS Tape management. Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 3:26 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OAM - CBR0054I OAM is obsolete. Remember mainframe

Re: OAM - CBR0054I

2013-05-06 Thread Lizette Koehler
Mark Maybe this apar OA38956: CBR0401I OSREQ RETRIEVE RET = 0010 REAS = D0030441 * USERS AFFECTED: OAM Object support users who do not have * * a valid OAM=XX keyword specified in * *

Re: BMC

2013-05-06 Thread Mitch
Elardus: a couple of examples. Control/M can be replaced (automatically) by TWS. BIM by Ws-Planning from RES (www.res-it.com). There is a vendor that provides a full automated conversion of entire vendor suites, BMC being one, with their tools to other vendor products. Check out RSM

Re: OE Re: SAS Deserting the MF?

2013-05-06 Thread J. Leslie Turriff
On 2013-05-06 05:42:47 Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: Hmmm, I note your comment, but I want to give you some TIPS, what about TIPS? (Terabyte Instructions per Seconds) I think you mean Trillions of Instructions Per Second. :-) Leslie

Re: My 50th Anniversary at SRU

2013-05-06 Thread Phil Smith
Congrats, Fran! We're looking forward to 50 more!! ObAnecdote:When I worked at UofWaterloo, I started on my 19th birthday. Their pension plan paid 2% of your final salary per year of service. If I'd stayed there 'till 65, I would have retired at 94% of my final salary...plus Canada Pension. It

Re: My 50th Anniversary at SRU

2013-05-06 Thread Scott Ford
Congrats, Fran .. Scott ford www.identityforge.com from my IPAD 'Infinite wisdom through infinite means' On May 6, 2013, at 7:21 PM, Phil Smith p...@voltage.com wrote: Congrats, Fran! We're looking forward to 50 more!! ObAnecdote:When I worked at UofWaterloo, I started on my 19th

Re: Compile COBOL/CICS pgms on z/OS problem

2013-05-06 Thread Graham Hobbs
My gratitude to all who helped. Every time I come with these questions I learn much, this time including how to read. Finished up with what Terry and George proposed: //AP02 JOB (CONRAD),'IBMUSE2', // CLASS=A,MSGCLASS=0,MSGLEVEL=(1,1) //JOBLIB DD