John McKown wrote:
This is just a curiosity question. How many lines of SYSLOG output do you
produce in an average day? I just did a quick look at last week's SYSLOG and
saw about 1.5 million lines for a 7 day period on two, rather small, systems.
47.5 million lines over 7 days on about dozen
Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM wrote:
We actively use MPF list/exits to trim messages, both from the operator
console and from syslog/operlog, deleting those messages that we really don't
need.
We use MPF and automation [1] to trim many messages on Console and some on
SYSLOG (which I really
There is no rule of thumb. It's very likely that 16M is way too small, but
we're not likely to change the default.
128M is fairly common, I believe.
It's not necessarily the case that a bigger size is better. The more data
that is cached, the more likely you are to be able to retrieve from the
Thomas Conley wrote:
I've always had to review the SMF data, then make adjustments. No ROTs or
sizing recommendations I'm aware of.
Please forgive my ignorance, but what SMF records? Of course I have looked in
my SMF book, but must have missed something obvious or used wrong search
That a tricky question:
VLF writes SMF 41 records, but they are unusable for LLA. Since LLA manages its
VLF cache and knows what is in it and what is not, it will always have a 100%
hitratio on its VLF cache, which will be reported by VLF records 41.
Via LLA exits 1 and 2, we write SMF records
LE runtime is TERMTHDACT(UADUMP,,96)
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Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM wrote:
That a tricky question: VLF writes SMF 41 records, but they are unusable for
LLA. Since LLA manages its VLF cache and knows what is in it and what is not,
it will always have a 100% hitratio on its VLF cache, which will be reported
by VLF records 41. Via LLA
On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 11:58:59 -0600, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote:
(I'm not going to experiment with it. How does z/OS Java
display graphics, anyway?)
Via X-Windows. Start an X-server on your PC, set the appropriate environment
variables, then fire up the JVM from USS. I've done
Is it possible to use RECEIVE ORDER for a specific FMID?
I am running SMP/E 36.11 on z/OS 1.13.
To what purpose? Limiting bandwidth for an urgently needed
PTF? Sooner or later you're likely to need all available PTFs.
Easier to RECEIVE all and APPLY SELECT( ... ) GROUPEXTEND
[CHECK]
Yes,
Hi David,
I think you may be referring to the three z/OS V2.1 zfs cache default
changes??? Basically, they are dependent on the amount of real memory on the
LPAR available at IPL. The default will vary between systems. You may want to
check out the helpful migration Health Check
Kurt Quackenbush wrote:
Is it possible to use RECEIVE ORDER for a specific FMID?
I am running SMP/E 36.11 on z/OS 1.13.
To what purpose? Limiting bandwidth for an urgently needed PTF? Sooner or
later you're likely to need all available PTFs. Easier to RECEIVE all and
APPLY SELECT( ... )
It is still an option in COBOL 5.1.1. The default is NOSSRANGE.
Regards,
Greg Shirey
Ben E. Keith Company
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SYS1.SAMPLIB:CSVLLIX1+CSVLLIX2 provide samples to write statistics to SMF
records from LLA Exits 1 and 2. And do other things, such as force LLA to stage
modules to VLF, if its statistics would have indicated otherwise.
Kees.
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Just a shortage of LOW COST workers who can do the job.
quote
The real issue, say Salzman and others, is the industry’s desire for
lower-wage,more-exploitable guest workers, not a lack of available American
staff. “It seems pretty clear that the industry just wants lower-cost
labor,” Dean Baker,
On 11/25/2014 08:03 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
Thomas Conley wrote:
I've always had to review the SMF data, then make adjustments. No ROTs or
sizing recommendations I'm aware of.
Please forgive my ignorance, but what SMF records? Of course I have looked in
my SMF book, but must have
It looks as if it uses VLF's SMF41 records. They provide the VLF view on the
LLA cache. VLF knows how large the cache is, how much is used, how much
trimming LLA has done. And what LLA's hitratio is, but this will always be near
100%, as I explained before.
If it also tells you, per library,
Peter Ten Eyck wrote:
LE runtime is TERMTHDACT(UADUMP,,96)
Ok. I will bite. I see in LE book, this:
Under non-CICS, if the appropriate DD statement is used, you will get a system
dump of your user address space.
A$$suming you're not running CICS, did you used that DD statement?
(Even after
Hi,
I installed a feature pack for CICS.
It came as a separate FMID.
We are having trouble making it work, so I wanted to make sure that we had the
latest maintenance for it.
Gadi
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We stopped asking for SMF 41-3 LONG ago: The result for LLA was always the
same.
We're more or less stuck with double it then double it again if things
get better. Not sure how we'd tell if things actually DID get better.
So the exits route is good for the very curious.
Cheers, Martin
Martin
Thanks. That is the normal way for a majority of LE abend handling.
Without more specific information, I would probably open up an SR with LE
support and request assistance.
It is possible that your Cobol program is over writing LE and/or Cobol Storage.
It is possible there is a PTF that
On 11/25/2014 07:29 AM, Peter Relson wrote:
There is no rule of thumb. It's very likely that 16M is way too small, but
we're not likely to change the default.
128M is fairly common, I believe.
It's not necessarily the case that a bigger size is better. The more data
that is cached, the more
Is anyone else had problems this morning with Shopz?
The order gets fulfilled (supposedly), but when you click on the Download
link, nada, nothing, zilch!
This just came out on my last attempt:
ERROR: SHP0003E: An unexpected error occurred. Please try again later. If the
problem persists,
On 11/25/2014 08:03 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
SNIPPAGE
Ok if you say so. Could that part of MFM not be included in Health Checker so
we all can see what sizes are recommended?
Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht
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Also these share presentations may be helpful
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/features/lang_environment/conference/share.html
Ah, yes. I remember now. Thanks Lizette!
Peter Ten Eyck, are you using a SLIP? According to that presentation, you
should not use a SLIP
Steve Thompson wrote:
MFM is a non-supported (Ok, support as time is available) product from IBM.
You have to sign some doc, etc. So it is not generally in use by z/OS sites.
I have used in ancient times. This is why I asked for inclusion in HC.
Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht
I have 200MB and have a 99% hitratio on 20 LLA managed libraries, as reported
by LLA statistics (LLA fetches from its VLF cache)/(LLA fetches from VLF + LLA
fetches from disk).
Kees.
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Just a shortage of LOW COST workers who can do the job.
quote
The real issue, say Salzman and others, is the industry’s desire for
lower-wage,more-exploitable
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Peter Ten Eyck wrote:
LE runtime is TERMTHDACT(UADUMP,,96)
Ok. I will bite. I see in LE book, this:
Under non-CICS, if the appropriate DD
Chase, John wrote:
So, when has an industry or business ever sought out higher-priced labor
when qualified, competent lower-priced labor was available? Or was I asleep
at the time?
Perhaps... ;-D
John McKown said in 'WLM in Batch' thread: ...because the money people in the
most companies
I had thought (from
https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/blogs/MartinPacker/entry/lla_and_measuring_its_use?lang=en
) that the SMF records did not really tell us very much about the tuning. But
it could have been that I didn't really understand them
So we used the healthcheck
I am sure this measure is useless for LLA's VLF cache.
LLA manages its cache with complex calculations and only stages to its cache if
room is available. Based on its measurements LLA could trim modules from cache
to stage other modules that provide more benefit.
That is why 1) its hitratio is
On 2014-11-24, at 09:11, Chase, John wrote:
GROUPEXTEND seems to be in force when the IFREQ FMID(s) exist(s) in (one of)
the target zone(s) specified on RECEIVE ORDER. I have ordered specific PTFs
for (e.g.) the COBOL v5.1 compiler (HADB510), and IFREQ PTF(s) for Language
Environment
On 2014-11-25, at 07:53, Chase, John wrote:
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-11-24/the-tech-worker-shortage-doesnt-really-exist
yawn
So, when has an industry or business ever sought out higher-priced labor
when qualified, competent lower-priced labor was available? Or was I
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Lizette Koehler wrote:
Also these share presentations may be helpful
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/features/lang_environment/confer
On 11/25/2014 8:19 AM, Chase, John wrote:
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Lizette Koehler wrote:
Also these share presentations may be helpful
Well I obviously haven't learnt much in the last 9 years. :-) Or, more
positively, at least I'm consistent. :-)
Cheers, Martin
Martin Packer,
zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator,
Worldwide Banking Center of Excellence, IBM
+44-7802-245-584
email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com
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On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 07:27:23 -0700 Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com
wrote:
:You would need to see what module the CEEDUMP is indicating is the issue.
When you get an SYSUDUMP you would need to use IPCS and VERBX LEDATA to get to
the regs to see what is going on.
A nit. IPCS runs
Hi:
I have said this before. At a IBM class (here in Chicago) The
instructor told us (SERVPAC CLASS) that the goal of IBM was to
eliminate the systems programmer.
Now hows does that make everyone on the list feel?
Ed
On Nov 25, 2014, at 12:36 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
Disclaimer: I
I feel fine. I was told the same thing 35 years ago.
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I was told that System Programming would be reduced to PARMLIB updates. Circa
1981.
And..
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On 11/25/2014 8:19 AM, Chase, John wrote:
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Indeed. We're currently working a PMR in which, to get an SVCDUMP of a
S0C4 before LE's condition
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I was told that System Programming would be reduced to PARMLIB updates. Circa
1981.
And..
In a previous job as a CSR for an ISV, we got a new boss. In
Like many companies, we use a z/OS guest at IBM Dallas for our testing. We also
cross-compile our source on Windows, using the Dignus compiler. Obviously, this
results in lots of FTPing bits from our systems to Dallas. Moreover, we do tons
of automated testing submitting jobs and gathering
On 11/25/2014 8:03 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
Thomas Conley wrote:
I've always had to review the SMF data, then make adjustments. No ROTs or
sizing recommendations I'm aware of.
Please forgive my ignorance, but what SMF records? Of course I have looked in
my SMF book, but must have
I'd try running a packet trace on the server side. There are lots
of FTP try again errors (4xx) and lots of clients just don't
handle them very well.
In article 84bccd71182f0046bcd2fb054fe5237917adfc6...@hqmailsvr02.voltage.com
you wrote:
Like many companies, we use a z/OS guest at IBM Dallas
On 2014-11-25 13:47, Phil Smith wrote:
Like many companies, we use a z/OS guest at IBM Dallas for our testing. We also
cross-compile our source on Windows, using the Dignus compiler. Obviously, this
results in lots of FTPing bits from our systems to Dallas. Moreover, we do tons
of automated
Kurt:
I was working on a specific product and *ONLY* wanted maintenance for
that.
Time and again I had to figure out all the pertaining PTF's and do a
select(,,,,eee, etc etc) I did NOT want
maintenance for other products to be recieved and applied.
Ed
On Nov 25,
Thanks for the good feedback. I had the programmer use the SYSUDUMP DD for this
program... which did produce a SOC1 dump. This dump was sent to Abend-Aid and
the programmer was able to make a correction to the code and get the program
running cleanly.
I still do not know what it is about that
Hi,I am a newbie on this list, but an old IBM dog... I am looking for the PC
version of the old Wylbur editor. I need Wylbur's functionality but I can not
find it.
Any ideas?
James Ssemakula
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Hi,I am a newbie on this list, but an old IBM dog... I am looking for the PC
version of the old Wylbur editor. I need Wylbur's functionality but I can not
find it.
Any ideas?
James Ssemakula
Looks like the (open) source for z/OS (MVS) is available at Stanford.edu.
Sounds like a porting project to me. LOL
Charles
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On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote:
Looks like the (open) source for z/OS (MVS) is available at Stanford.edu.
Sounds like a porting project to me. LOL
Charles
I found that too. Unfortunately, it is in assembler. Fortunately, there
exists the z390 project
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 14:53:17 +, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com wrote:
yawn
So, when has an industry or business ever sought out higher-priced labor
when qualified, competent lower-priced labor was available? Or was I
asleep at the time?
But in our (small) pond of z/OS, it's the
So, when has an industry or business ever sought out higher-priced labor
when qualified, competent lower-priced labor was available? Or was I
asleep at the time?
How about pretty routinely?
Most such decisions were always political and not economical, so it was common
practice to pay
On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 11:34:27 -0600, John McKown wrote:
How many lines of SYSLOG output do you produce in an average day?
From 23:00 yesterday to 16:49 today, only 340 K lines. We are a rather small
shop, so our numbers aren't that interesting. However, 35 years ago, when I
was an Amdahl SE,
In
376168951.588598.1416945455949.javamail.ya...@jws100196.mail.ne1.yahoo.com,
on 11/25/2014
at 07:57 PM, Ssemakula
007869450f9e-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said:
Hi,I am a newbie on this list, but an old IBM dog... I am looking for
the PC version of the old Wylbur editor.
There is
Turnkey / Hercules / MVS 3.8 ?
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 3:02 PM, John McKown
john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote:
Looks like the (open) source for z/OS (MVS) is available at Stanford.edu.
Sounds like a porting project to
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 15:02:07 -0600, John McKown wrote:
Looks like the (open) source for z/OS (MVS) is available at Stanford.edu.
I found that too. Unfortunately, it is in assembler. Fortunately, there
exists the z390 project which can compile AND run such code. But how useful
that would be in
Perhaps this might ring a bell in someones head.
Does anyone know what an IBM 1751 Control and Switching Unit is, and
what is was used for?
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As I told already in my previous post on this topic:
there are certains types of errors, especially when code area is overwritten
(S0C1 can be a symptom for that kind of error), when LE error handler is
not able to cope with
program errors (maybe LE control blocks are damaged too). If you are
http://www.beagle-ears.com/lars/engineer/comphist/ibmmodel.txt
1715 -IBM Digital Display Unit
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 5:46 PM, William Donzelli wdonze...@gmail.com wrote:
Perhaps this might ring a bell in someones head.
Does anyone know what an IBM 1751 Control and Switching Unit is, and
Thanks, but I figured it out. A 1751 is apparently the mainframe (in
the original sense) for the 1750 telephone system.
It has all the good looks of a string of 3380s - a wall of blue.
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On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 8:41 PM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
I swear, as much as I switch numbers around, I must have something
like dyslexia.
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 7:41 PM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.beagle-ears.com/lars/engineer/comphist/ibmmodel.txt
1715 -IBM Digital Display Unit
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 5:46 PM,
Hi
Would anyone know how to define an occurs depending on array in assembler to
generate a file manager template
Thanks
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On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 01:33:00 +0100, Bernd Oppolzer wrote:
I do classes on dump diagnose, BTW,
Many years ago I did a dump class - as an adjunct to the MVS Internals class
Amdahl used to offer.
Hand-outs for the class included multiple fanfold listings - each several
inches thick. which we had
Not sure this is worth mentioning, but IBM's Health Checker has a check called
IBMVLF,VLF_MAXVIRT that tells you how many times VLF has trimmed objects from
various caches, depending on the parameters specified on the check. The check
runs hourly by default. Of course, the check won't give you
Do you believe in dog?
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mike.a.sch...@gmail.com writes:
I swear, as much as I switch numbers around, I must have something
like dyslexia.
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Maybe you could try to use the FTP PASV command. If you are using perl for the
FTP, try set (export) FTP_PASSIVE=1 to see it if helps. From experience,
corporate managed firewalls can get in the way. I have been running in passive
mode for a while and do not see any performance problems
Short: no. Every information from VLF on the LLA cache is useless. LLA manages
its VLF cache such that it always seems to perform perfectly from the VLF point
of view. The real performance is only available from LLA statistics.
Kees.
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Phil Smith wrote:
Moreover, we do tons of automated testing submitting jobs and gathering output
directly to and from the JES queue with FILETYPE=JES.
Usually this all works fine. Some days, however, are a disaster, with FTP
hanging constantly, both during traditional file transfers and when
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