Re: Limit number of frames of real storage per job

2015-08-05 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Andrew Rowley wrote: I'm not sure if you can artificially limit the frames available, but I would expect that the effect of paging on a Java application would be BAD. Very bad. Of course! Java needs to perform regular garbage collection. A la Commodore 64 garbage collection I still have

Re: Limit number of frames of real storage per job

2015-08-05 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
Blockpaging: paging groups of related pages in and out. Although I don't know if this applies to this situation. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: 05 August, 2015 10:45 To:

Re: Limit number of frames of real storage per job

2015-08-05 Thread Andrew Rowley
On 5/08/2015 18:45, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: A la Commodore 64 garbage collection I still have bad dreams of that infamous C64 garbage collection... ;-) Not that I'm saying garbage collection is bad... every language has overhead from tracking free and in use memory. Java defers that

Re: Limit number of frames of real storage per job

2015-08-05 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Andrew Rowley wrote: A la Commodore 64 garbage collection I still have bad dreams of that infamous C64 garbage collection... ;-) Not that I'm saying garbage collection is bad... every language has overhead from tracking free and in use memory. Java defers that overhead to garbage

Re: Mixed cobol ewnvironment and Ent. Cobol

2015-08-05 Thread Jon Butler
You did not say which version of CICS you are using, but the Application Programming Guide has detailed instructions on running COBOL II modules under CICS. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,

submit restriction

2015-08-05 Thread Tim Brown
Can submit be restricted to only using TYPRUN=SCAN, we have some consultants analyzing our system and they would like to see expanded JCL but we cant let them execute it. Thanks, Tim Brown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: submit restriction

2015-08-05 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
Only by using an exit which forces TYPRUN=SCAN into the jobcard. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tim Brown Sent: 05 August, 2015 14:23 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: submit restriction Can submit be

Re: submit restriction

2015-08-05 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM wrote: Only by using an exit which forces TYPRUN=SCAN into the jobcard. Good and failsafe solution as long you protect your JES2 properly. JES2 exit nr 2 is a good place to enforce your JOB rules and regulations without JCL error. If you're too lazy to use that and

Re: OPEN SYSPRINT for INPUT programmatically

2015-08-05 Thread Thomas Conley
On 8/5/2015 7:09 AM, hexunive...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone know how SYSPRINT can be OPENed for INPUT programmatically? The following doesn't work: SYSPRINT DCB DSORG=PS OPEN (SYSPRINT,(INPUT)) I've tried both BSAM(DSORG=PS) and BDAM(DSORG=DA) access methods but with no success - OPEN

Re: submit restriction

2015-08-05 Thread Lizette Koehler
If you are short on time for this issue, you other option might be to prevent them access to the system (TSO/ISPF) and then have someone submit the JCL for them. Or you will, as others suggested, need to use an exit. If you have time and money, you could look at a product like EASYEXIT by DTS

Re: OPEN SYSPRINT for INPUT programmatically

2015-08-05 Thread Lizette Koehler
One thing, your SYSPRINT data would not be available until it is closed. Say you have //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* No, I do not think you can recapture the data easily If you have //SYSPRINT DD DSN=. Then you would need to close and reopen SYSPRINT. So, as requested, please show your JCL,

Problem with FTP into a PDS

2015-08-05 Thread Bill Ashton
This group has been so helpful to me in the last couple weeks, and I hope for one more victory! I am trying to download a group of fixes from our server into a PDS, to do some reporting on it. I am not sure what my problem is, but let me explain the commands I am using. CD the file server

Re: Problem with FTP into a PDS

2015-08-05 Thread Bill Ashton
As a side note, I can do the mget into a single PS file, but I would like to have them in a PDS if possible. B On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 9:45 AM, Bill Ashton bill00ash...@gmail.com wrote: This group has been so helpful to me in the last couple weeks, and I hope for one more victory! I am

Re: Problem with FTP into a PDS

2015-08-05 Thread Lizette Koehler
I am not sure about loading to a PDS, but if they are *.BIN files, should you use BINARY rather than ASCII as the type? In the past when I have done something like this, I created a batch job to then create the PDS and load them. Usually IEBGENER - one member at a time Lizette

Re: Problem with FTP into a PDS

2015-08-05 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 8/5/2015 8:54:41 A.M. Central Daylight Time, bill00ash...@gmail.com writes: Sorry...my mistake...instead of a single file, I created individual files for each fix...this is not what I wanted... -- For

Re: Problem with FTP into a PDS

2015-08-05 Thread Bill Ashton
Sorry...my mistake...instead of a single file, I created individual files for each fix...this is not what I wanted... On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Bill Ashton bill00ash...@gmail.com wrote: As a side note, I can do the mget into a single PS file, but I would like to have them in a PDS if

Re: Problem with FTP into a PDS

2015-08-05 Thread Ed Finnell
ws_ftp is pretty straight forward available at _www.ipswitchft.com_ (http://www.ipswitchft.com) Sorry about the dinger. Trying to do too many things at once In a message dated 8/5/2015 8:54:41 A.M. Central Daylight Time, bill00ash...@gmail.com writes: Sorry...my mistake...instead of

Re: Problem with FTP into a PDS

2015-08-05 Thread Nims,Alva John (Al)
I believe the problem is that even though you are saying MGET *.BIN (REPLACE that does not cause it to Strip off the .BIN of the sending file name, so the system thinks you want to create a member name of ABCDEF.BIN Al Nims Systems Admin/Programmer 3 Information Technology University of Florida

Re: Problem with FTP into a PDS

2015-08-05 Thread Pommier, Rex
This is just a SWAG, but can you do mget *.BIN * (REPLACE? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bill Ashton Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 8:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Problem with FTP into a PDS This

Re: Problem with FTP into a PDS

2015-08-05 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Bill Ashton wrote: I am trying to download a group of fixes from our server into a PDS, What are you using to do the FTP? Batch? 3th party product? Programmatically? 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls. ASCII for binaries? EZA1685W Invalid local file identifier EZA1735I Std

Re: Problem with FTP into a PDS

2015-08-05 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Ed Finnell wrote: Sorry about the dinger. Trying to do too many things at once Chop them 'dingers' off! All ten of them! Oh, you may have a practical problem with your hands after that... ;-) Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht

Re: Problem with FTP into a PDS

2015-08-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 09:51:10 -0400, Bill Ashton wrote: As a side note, I can do the mget into a single PS file, but I would like to have them in a PDS if possible. Or you could MGET them into a z/OS UNIX directory, where the naming rules are far more liberal: ... LCD /u/my/fixes ...

Re: Problem with FTP into a PDS

2015-08-05 Thread Bill Ashton
Sorry for the holes in my description...I do issue the BIN command right below my login - missed that in my cut/paste. I am on z/OS 2.1, and trying to do this in FTP batch mode. MGET does not allow a from/to filename...it only works with LCD, and will use the filename on the MGET command. I will

Re: submit restriction

2015-08-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 12:35:00 +, Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM wrote: Only by using an exit which forces TYPRUN=SCAN into the jobcard. But be sure to use an INTRDR exit, not a TSO exit that can be bypassed by writing directly to INTRDR. Or, fire the consultants and hire ones you can trust.

Re: submit restriction

2015-08-05 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2015-08-05 o 14:22, Tim Brown pisze: Can submit be restricted to only using TYPRUN=SCAN, we have some consultants analyzing our system and they would like to see expanded JCL but we cant let them execute it. There is no up ready to use knob, but there are some solutions. 1. Exit

Re: Limit number of frames of real storage per job

2015-08-05 Thread Mike Schwab
Paging like this also occurred when running a paging OS under (z/)VM(/VSE). If you made the MVS space too large, VM would be paging out the least recently used frame to make room for MVS to page in an even older frame to use for the next frame. On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 3:45 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht

useless but amusing: largest known prime

2015-08-05 Thread John McKown
From: http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2015/08/05/largest-known-prime/ quote The largest known prime at the moment is P = 2 ​^​ 57885161 – 1. This means that in binary, the number is a string of 57,885,161 ones. /quote-- Schrodinger's backup: The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is

Re: submit restriction

2015-08-05 Thread Mitch Mccluhan
...an issue with Job/Scan (or any other tool from Allen Systems Group) is the financial viability of ASG. There are a number of amazing JCL tools on the market that do not require the JCL to every be submitted in any form or fashion to the internal reader. And, they have capabilities that go

Re: Problem with FTP into a PDS

2015-08-05 Thread retired mainframer
A.B IN is not a valid member name. Even if the period could be accepted, ABCDE.BIN is too many characters. If you can rename the files to remove the .BIN extension, an MGET * command should work. If there are other files in the directory, move only the ones you want into a dedicated

Re: submit restriction

2015-08-05 Thread Lizette Koehler
I thought maybe if they are submitting under TSO/ISPF then IKJEFF10 might work. There could be a sample in SYS1.SAMPLIB SUBMIT command IKJEFF10Check submitted JCL statements and accept, reject, or modify them. That would not help if they use something like IEBGENER to submit through the

Re: Problem with FTP into a PDS

2015-08-05 Thread John McKown
On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Bill Ashton bill00ash...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry for the holes in my description...I do issue the BIN command right below my login - missed that in my cut/paste. I am on z/OS 2.1, and trying to do this in FTP batch mode. MGET does not allow a from/to

Re: Problem with FTP into a PDS

2015-08-05 Thread Boris Lenz
On Wed, August 5, 2015 18:18, John McKown wrote: Once in z/OS, you can do something like the following at a UNIX prompt. He wants to do it in z/OS batch anyway, so the whole thing can be done in one job. You had s missing ) in your snippet. To also clean up: for i in *.BIN;do cp -T ${i}

Re: submit restriction

2015-08-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 08:50:36 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote: That would not help if they use something like IEBGENER to submit through the internal reader something else might be an EDIT macro I have that submits to INTRDR with the attributes of the file being edited rather than mutilating it to F

Re: Problem with FTP into a PDS

2015-08-05 Thread John McKown
On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Boris Lenz boris.l...@ims.sells.ch wrote: On Wed, August 5, 2015 18:18, John McKown wrote: Once in z/OS, you can do something like the following at a UNIX prompt. He wants to do it in z/OS batch anyway, so the whole thing can be done in one job. You had s

Re: Problem with FTP into a PDS

2015-08-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 11:18:17 -0500, John McKown wrote: On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Bill Ashton wrote: I will try the Unix directory, as I can't rename the source files (I have read only access). If you really need them in a PDS (why?), you can: o rename them ad lib. in the UNIX

Re: submit restriction

2015-08-05 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Let them submit as many jobs as they whant in your sandbox system. Just keep initiators closed... ITschak ITschak Mugzach Z/OS, ISV Products and Application Security Risk Assessments Professional On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 7:53 PM, Paul Gilmartin 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu

Re: useless but amusing: largest known prime

2015-08-05 Thread Gibney, David Allen,Jr
Taking 7M to store. I wonder how well that will compress :) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 8:15 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: useless but amusing: largest

Re: useless but amusing: largest known prime

2015-08-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2015-08-05 12:50, Gibney, David Allen,Jr wrote: Taking 7M to store. I wonder how well that will compress :) With a suitable algorithm, it compresses extremely well: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolmogorov_complexity ... only a few dozen bits. -Original Message- From: John

Re: useless but amusing: largest known prime

2015-08-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2015-08-05 12:50, Gibney, David Allen,Jr wrote: Taking 7M to store. I wonder how well that will compress :) I decided to try something practical: 506 $ 506 $ time awk 'BEGIN { for ( I = 0; I57885161; I++ ) printf( 1 ) print }' | gzip | wc 1 5 56203 real0m18.422s

Re: useless but amusing: largest known prime

2015-08-05 Thread Glen Hermannsfeldt (Contractor)
Instead of a file with 57885161 C'1', I tried a file of 57885161 X'FF'. BEGIN { for(i=0;i57885161;i+=8) printf %c,255; } 08/05/2015 02:02 PM 7,235,646 prime.out 08/05/2015 02:03 PM 7,046 prime.out.gz 08/05/2015 02:04 PM90 prime.out.gz.gz and as noted,

Re: useless but amusing: largest known prime

2015-08-05 Thread Bob Rutledge
Why i+=8? Bob On 8/5/2015 5:11 PM, Glen Hermannsfeldt (Contractor) wrote: Instead of a file with 57885161 C'1', I tried a file of 57885161 X'FF'. BEGIN { for(i=0;i57885161;i+=8) printf %c,255; } 08/05/2015 02:02 PM 7,235,646 prime.out 08/05/2015 02:03 PM 7,046

VMware is looking to buy-out it parent company - EMC

2015-08-05 Thread Russell Witt
This is actually weird. Even though EMC owns an 80% stake in VMware, VMware is looking to buy-out EMC. Never heard of a down-stream merger. http://fortune.com/2015/08/05/report-emc-considering-buyout-vmware/?xid=yaho o_fortune Russell Witt

Re: VMware is looking to buy-out it parent company - EMC

2015-08-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2015-08-05 19:53, Russell Witt wrote: This is actually weird. Even though EMC owns an 80% stake in VMware, VMware is looking to buy-out EMC. Never heard of a down-stream merger. http://fortune.com/2015/08/05/report-emc-considering-buyout-vmware/?xid=yahoo_fortune Not too weird. In one

Re: Limit number of frames of real storage per job

2015-08-05 Thread Timothy Sipples
I agree with Andrew Rowley's advice so long as it's properly understood to be *general* advice -- rules of thumb. There are some very interesting exceptions. (Aren't there always? :-)) Regarding making the Java heap too large, there are some use cases -- Java batch, notably -- where you really do

Re: useless but amusing: largest known prime

2015-08-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2015-08-05 17:06, Glen Hermannsfeldt (Contractor) wrote: 8 bits per byte, all ones. ... (and the third compression increased the original from 90 to 110 bytes.) That's typical. If each compression reduced the size of the file, every file could be compressed with enough iterations to a

Re: useless but amusing: largest known prime

2015-08-05 Thread Glen Hermannsfeldt (Contractor)
8 bits per byte, all ones. To do it right, the first should have 57885161%8 ones, but that probably doesn't change the compression much. But okay: BEGIN { n=57885161; printf %c, rshift(255,8-n%8); for(i=1;in;i+=8) printf %c,255; } 08/05/2015 04:01 PM 7,235,646 prime.out