Blockpaging: paging groups of related pages in and out. Although I don't know 
if this applies to this situation.

Kees.


-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Elardus Engelbrecht
Sent: 05 August, 2015 10:45
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Limit number of frames of real storage per job

Andrew Rowley wrote:

>I'm not sure if you can artificially limit the frames available, but I would 
>expect that the effect of paging on a Java application would be BAD. Very bad.

Of course!


>Java needs to perform regular garbage collection. 

A la Commodore 64 garbage collection.... I still have bad dreams of that 
infamous C64 garbage collection... ;-)


>(I'm not sure whether z/OS is smart enought to recognise the pattern and bring 
>pages back in before they are required)

It would be interesting of z/OS can do that. Peter Relson? John Eells? Jim 
Mulder? What do you say about that?

I know IEBGENER, DFSORT and ICETOOL do their checking of storage (memory and 
temp workspace) and then do with whatever is available.


>I wouldn't bother testing - I would just say that sufficient memory is 
>required to execute in real storage.

Agreed - actually if you have too few memory, you can't do anything. Increase 
as needed and retry.

If I want to do any testing, I will do it in a sandbox with a small 
configurable memory. (CF STOR,etc.)


>Another consequence of this behaviour is that you should not make the Java 
>heap too large. 

Good point. I have written it up in my notes. Thanks!

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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