Re: Downloading from ShopZ

2015-09-22 Thread Gibney, David Allen,Jr
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Jakubek, Jan > Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 11:21 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Downloading from ShopZ > >

Please use the UPDATES page to get CBT files, if the file number is there

2015-09-22 Thread Sam Golob
Hi Folks, Regarding www.cbttape.org . It has been pointed out to me (3 times in the last two weeks) that I haven't made a version cut of the CBT Tape in about 9 months now. ALL of the fixes and changed files since then are on the UPDATES page, and NOT on the CBT page. Please

Hillgang Reminder

2015-09-22 Thread Neale Ferguson
A reminder that the next Hillgang meeting will be held 29 Sep at the CA Offices in Herndon Virginia. The full agenda may be found at: http://www.vm.ibm.com/events/HILL0915.PDF - ADP Customer Experience, Phil Tully, ADP - z/VM Charge Back Models and Methods, Bill Bitner, IBM - The LinuxONE

AW: Re: AW: Re: Ported tools and z/OS 2.2

2015-09-22 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>Peter's post is only partially correct. It is true that Perl and PHP have >been moved to Rocket. I stand corrected. But in my defense I wrote I don't have access to those documents anymore. I still think it was three components that were removed from the ported tools. >Also, the Apache

Re: Downloading from ShopZ

2015-09-22 Thread Jakubek, Jan
<< I was concerned about specifying SMPWKDIR in steps DOWNLDP1 and UNZIP1 and DOWNLDP2 of the SKELETON CPPS6101 job used to do the transfer and RECEIVE from the FTP site.

Re: Getting the TIOT

2015-09-22 Thread Tony Harminc
On 22 September 2015 at 12:25, Phil Smith wrote: > To find the TIOT, a colleague uses GETDSAB, then pulls DSABTIOT out of that. > I've always seen: > L R3,540Get TCB address > L R3,12(,R3)Get TIOT address > ...which seems a tad bit mo'

Re: Problem with mainframe console connection

2015-09-22 Thread Leonardo Vaz
Can you please elaborate on "missed the password to connect"? You have lost the certificate? Resetting passwords has no relation to secure/unsecure connections as far as I know. Leo -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of

Re: Problem with mainframe console connection

2015-09-22 Thread Rajesh Kumar
i forgot the password, leo On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Leonardo Vaz wrote: > Can you please elaborate on "missed the password to connect"? You have > lost the certificate? Resetting passwords has no relation to > secure/unsecure connections as far as I know. > > Leo > >

Re: Getting the TIOT

2015-09-22 Thread Charles Mills
Good to know. Glad Phil asked. Thanks, Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Walt Farrell Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 10:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Getting the TIOT On Tue, 22 Sep 2015

Re: Getting the TIOT

2015-09-22 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2015-09-22 12:32, Charles Mills wrote: What you suggest is what I do: psa* psaPtr = NULL; tcb* tcbPtr = (tcb *)psaPtr->psatold; tiot* tiotPtr = (tiot *)tcbPtr->tcbtio; Never had a problem with it. Hard to believe this would ever change. I suspect it would break half

Re: HP being sued, not by IBM.....yet!

2015-09-22 Thread John Eells
Thomas Conley wrote: The article talked about a vintage 1960's mainframe, so I guess these guys are running an S/360. I find that highly improbable. The (3rd party, perforce) maintenance cost on a S/360 box alone would likely make the total ownership cost of something a *lot* newer look

Re: Downloading from ShopZ

2015-09-22 Thread Jakubek, Jan
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Gibney, David Allen,Jr The calculation of space required 16489MB * 1.4 * 2 = 46169 cyl is more than a Mod 27. So, I'd like to use one M27 for

Problem with mainframe console connection

2015-09-22 Thread Rajesh Kumar
Hi team, In my shop we are connecting console by using secure 3270 . But unfortunately we missed the password to connect . How to reset the password ? there is no option for it , is it problem with mainframe or 3270 ? .Please guide me. Thanks Rajesh

Re: HP being sued, not by IBM.....yet!

2015-09-22 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
john.archie.mck...@gmail.com (John McKown) writes: > ​They are probably referring to a z, but doing it in such a way as to > totally disparage it. The fact that the z13 is the fastest microprocessor > currently existed just doesn't penetrate their mind because the original > ​S/360 was designed in

Re: Getting the TIOT

2015-09-22 Thread Charles Mills
What you suggest is what I do: psa* psaPtr = NULL; tcb* tcbPtr = (tcb *)psaPtr->psatold; tiot* tiotPtr = (tiot *)tcbPtr->tcbtio; Never had a problem with it. Hard to believe this would ever change. I suspect it would break half the vendor code in the world, and half of

Re: Getting the TIOT

2015-09-22 Thread John McKown
On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 11:25 AM, Phil Smith wrote: > To find the TIOT, a colleague uses GETDSAB, then pulls DSABTIOT out of > that. I've always seen: > L R3,540Get TCB address > L R3,12(,R3)Get TIOT address > ...which seems a tad bit mo'

How do I setup an DFRMM Vault with VRS

2015-09-22 Thread Mike Wojtukiewicz
Here's my problem. Customer has a specific set of tape volsers that he backups data on Sunday. On Monday he gets a pull list (currently from CA1) of those tape to put in a box and shipped off somewhere. After 35 days they return back home where they are expired. So I figured I'd create a LOCDEF

Re: Volkswagen Programmed Vehicle to Deactivate Pollution Control Systems

2015-09-22 Thread Mike Schwab
Somebody (the plant manager) gets some serious jail time for knowingly shipping contaminated peanuts that ended up killing 9 people (although he wasn't charged with negligent homicide (yet)).

Re: Getting the TIOT

2015-09-22 Thread Walt Farrell
On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 09:25:09 -0700, Phil Smith wrote: >To find the TIOT, a colleague uses GETDSAB, then pulls DSABTIOT out of that. >I've always seen: > L R3,540Get TCB address > L R3,12(,R3)Get TIOT address >...which seems a tad bit mo'

Re: Problem with mainframe console connection

2015-09-22 Thread Staller, Allan
Follow standard procedures to reset the password in the security system database. Then re-logon the console i forgot the password, leo On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Leonardo Vaz wrote: > Can you please elaborate on "missed the password to connect"? You have > lost

Re: Getting the TIOT

2015-09-22 Thread Charles Mills
Agree! Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 10:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Getting the TIOT On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 11:25 AM, Phil Smith

Re: Problem with mainframe console connection

2015-09-22 Thread Leonardo Vaz
Ow, by "secure 3270" you meant console with logon required, I first thought you meant encrypted 3270 connection. You can technically use the HMC console to change the console to LOGON(OPTIONAL), I wouldn't go that route, as Allan said, ask the access team for a password reset. Regards, Leo

Re: Getting the TIOT

2015-09-22 Thread Phil Smith
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Re: IPCS BLS18028I message suppression

2015-09-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 09/21/2015 at 04:50 PM, Jim Mulder said: >>>If ISPF services are not available, the message is >>>transmitted to the terminal via the TSO IKJPUTL service routine. >>Is that the routine called

Re: HP being sued, not by IBM.....yet!

2015-09-22 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu (Bill Johnson) writes: > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/09/22/michigan_sues_hp_for_upgrade_failure/ > Michigan failure. remember HP had bought EDS: http://www8.hp.com/us/en/hp-news/press-release.html?id=169924 originally founded by former IBM

Re: Getting the TIOT

2015-09-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
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Re: HP being sued, not by IBM.....yet!

2015-09-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 09/22/2015 at 10:35 AM, John McKown said: >The fact that the z13 is the fastest microprocessor >currently existed just doesn't penetrate their mind because the >original S/360 was

Re: IPCS BLS18028I message suppression

2015-09-22 Thread Jim Mulder
> >>>If ISPF services are not available, the message is > >>>transmitted to the terminal via the TSO IKJPUTL service routine. > > >>Is that the routine called by PUTLINE? If so, what are the parameters? > > >Yes. BLSUTRMV passes the address of an IKJIOPL in register 1. > > Then there would

Re: Employees exposed to direct enforcement actions

2015-09-22 Thread Timothy Sipples
Jon Butler wrote: >Don't go peeking into personal data just because you have DBA authority. Why/how are your DBAs able to view personal data in your database(s)? Don't you use SYSCTRL authority in DB2 for z/OS, for example?

Re: HP being sued, not by IBM.....yet!

2015-09-22 Thread Clark Morris
On 22 Sep 2015 08:18:21 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >On 9/22/2015 11:04 AM, Tom Marchant wrote: >> On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 14:30:12 +, Bill Johnson wrote: >> >>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/09/22/michigan_sues_hp_for_upgrade_failure/ >> >> "to date not a single mainframe app

Re: Volkswagen Programmed Vehicle to Deactivate Pollution Control Systems

2015-09-22 Thread Ed Finnell
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/24/china-executes-2-people-o_n_368657. html In a message dated 9/22/2015 12:46:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mike.a.sch...@gmail.com writes: Somebody (the plant manager) gets some serious jail time for knowingly shipping contaminated peanuts that

Re: But DON'T try turning that off and back on again

2015-09-22 Thread zMan
True. Because toy computers don't need EPO. Such complex concepts for wee journalist minds... On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 10:16 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) < shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net> wrote: > In , on 09/17/2015 >at 11:11 PM, Ed Gould

Re: HP being sued, not by IBM.....yet!

2015-09-22 Thread Timothy Sipples
Shmuel Metz wrote: >Intel is almost as old. There have been a lot of changes in both lines >since the early days. The Intel 4004 processor started shipping in 1971. One could also argue the Intel 8086 (1978) is the evolutionary starting point. If the comment attached to that article is correct

Re: Accept nothing less than Z

2015-09-22 Thread Jon Butler
IBM has filed for a trademark of "Z SYSTEMS" but apparently there is some clarification needed. Interestingly enough, IBM applied for, and abandoned "ZSYSTEM" in 2006. There are any number of "Z-SYSTEM" and derivatives out there. For example there is an active "Z-SYSTEM" trademark for "a

Getting the TIOT

2015-09-22 Thread Phil Smith
To find the TIOT, a colleague uses GETDSAB, then pulls DSABTIOT out of that. I've always seen: L R3,540Get TCB address L R3,12(,R3)Get TIOT address ...which seems a tad bit mo' shorter :) Looking at GETDSAB, it's beautifully commented with over 500 lines of

SWAREQ from Java

2015-09-22 Thread Michael Knigge
All, since about 4 days I’m trying to get a simple ASM-Prog running under Java – in vain…. I hope someone can help me or bring me in the right direction… I need to get all Data Set Names that are allocated to a DD. So I step down the TIOT and get al SVA addresses for a DD. Then I try to call a

Migrate ti new userid

2015-09-22 Thread Steve Coalbran
I am trying to migrate all data on one TSO userid to a new id. Is there an easy way to do this? At the moment I have been working using ISPF LMD utiities to generate HBACK+HRECOVER NEWNAME commands but I can see that GDGs will prsent a problem. I guess VSAM will also. Any ideas?! /Steve

Re: Migrate ti new userid

2015-09-22 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Steve Coalbran wrote: >I am trying to migrate all data on one TSO userid to a new id. >Is there an easy way to do this? Perhaps, both IDCAMS and DFDSS support renaming of datasets using generic wildcards. Example from IDCAMS manual: //STEP1EXEC PGM=IDCAMS //SYSPRINT DD

Re: Migrate ti new userid

2015-09-22 Thread Jousma, David
//STEP1 EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=8M //SYSPRINT DDSYSOUT=* //SYSIN DD* COPY DS(INC(OLDID.**)) - RENUNC((OLDID.**,NEWID.**)) - ALLDATA(*) - SPHERE -

Re: Volkswagen Programmed Vehicle to Deactivate Pollution Control Systems

2015-09-22 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2015-09-22 o 16:22, Bob Shannon pisze: Like Charles said, there two sides, I'm keep wondering why it was done I'm a former TDI owner (not the generation in question). Loved the car. Loved the engine. So, after investing a billion or so dollars in a new engine design VW finds it can

Re: HP being sued, not by IBM.....yet!

2015-09-22 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 14:30:12 +, Bill Johnson wrote: >http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/09/22/michigan_sues_hp_for_upgrade_failure/ "to date not a single mainframe app has been successfully ported to a more modern computer system" Evidently the Register doesn't know that mainframes *are*

Re: Dataset enqueue, how to find the culprit.

2015-09-22 Thread Joseph W Gentile
Hi, you could also run ISGECJES from SAMPLIB (z/OS 2.1). It is a simple dataset enqueue contention monitor written in assembler. It won't go back in time. It will alert you to dataset contention going forward. We wrote an article about it in z/OS Hot Topics Issue 27, page 54.

Compiling a folder of mixed C and C++

2015-09-22 Thread Charles Mills
I have a batch job that was intended to compile every member of a directory that consists of mixed C and C++ source files. FWIW it is mostly C++ files with a few C files. The C files have an extension of .c and the C++ files of .C . I use the CBCC proc and SYSIN DD PATH='/u/path/Source/' . The

Re: Volkswagen Programmed Vehicle to Deactivate Pollution Control Systems

2015-09-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 10:29:35 -0400, Tony Thigpen wrote: >Independent tester hired by third-party that wanted tougher standards. > I see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen#Defeat_device_scandal The EPA was alerted to the issue by the International Council on Clean Transportation

Re: HP being sued, not by IBM.....yet!

2015-09-22 Thread Jack J. Woehr
Tom Marchant wrote: Evidently the Register doesn't know that mainframes*are* modern. The machines are. Their workforce isn't. It might be if there were affordable access to modern mainframe operating systems for the masses of young programmers. But I've only been saying that for 20+ years.

Re: Volkswagen Programmed Vehicle to Deactivate Pollution Control Systems

2015-09-22 Thread Scott Ford
John, Like Charles said, there two sides,I'm keep wondering why it was done. Was it a hack or a statement of some sort. There's usually a reason for a action.. Scott On Tuesday, September 22, 2015, Tony Thigpen wrote: > Personally, it makes me want to go out and buy several

Re: Volkswagen Programmed Vehicle to Deactivate Pollution Control Systems

2015-09-22 Thread Tony Thigpen
Independent tester hired by third-party that wanted tougher standards. They wanted to use VW as an example of what can be done with clean diesel so as to force new rules on other car manufacturers. Big surprise. :-) Tony Thigpen Bob Shannon wrote on 09/22/2015 10:22 AM: Like Charles said,

Re: HP being sued, not by IBM.....yet!

2015-09-22 Thread Jack J. Woehr
Bill Johnson wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/09/22/michigan_sues_hp_for_upgrade_failure/ Michigan failure. I've seen so many of these and I understand why these conversions fail. The Colorado Child Welfare System springs to mind. Have watched clients struggle with conversions while

Re: Volkswagen Programmed Vehicle to Deactivate Pollution Control Systems

2015-09-22 Thread Mike Schwab
Manning / Assange / Snowden found out the effectiveness of whistleblower protection laws from the U.S. On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 10:29:35 -0400, Tony Thigpen wrote: > >>Independent tester hired by

Re: HP being sued, not by IBM.....yet!

2015-09-22 Thread Thomas Conley
On 9/22/2015 11:04 AM, Tom Marchant wrote: On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 14:30:12 +, Bill Johnson wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/09/22/michigan_sues_hp_for_upgrade_failure/ "to date not a single mainframe app has been successfully ported to a more modern computer system" Evidently the

Re: SWAREQ from Java

2015-09-22 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 08:39:50 +, Michael Knigge wrote: >S0C4. The CEEDUMP ist weired: >I hope someone has an idea. Get an SVC dump or a SYSMDUMP. If you suspect a bad branch, check the BEA. -- Tom Marchant -- For

Re: Migrate ti new userid

2015-09-22 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Jousma, David wrote: //STEP1 EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=8M //SYSPRINT DDSYSOUT=* //SYSIN DD* COPY DS(INC(OLDID.**)) - RENUNC((OLDID.**,NEWID.**)) - ALLDATA(*) -

Re: Volkswagen Programmed Vehicle to Deactivate Pollution Control Systems

2015-09-22 Thread Charles Mills
Volkswagen has now had a chance to tell the other side of the story -- and there does not seem to be one. I find this story utterly incredible. That a Worldcom or an Enron or a Madoff would "improve" the books -- I find that sadly typical of human nature. But that a publicly-traded, global company

Re: Volkswagen Programmed Vehicle to Deactivate Pollution Control Systems

2015-09-22 Thread Tony Thigpen
Personally, it makes me want to go out and buy several of their cars. (I believe that the EPA needs to be reigned in.) And for all those who say "but it's cheating", think about your driving habits. Many of you will drive 80mph down a 70mph interstate knowing the odds that a cop will stop you

Re: Accept nothing less than Z

2015-09-22 Thread Pommier, Rex
She hasn't been in charge at HP for 10 years. I rather doubt she had anything to do with this. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of J O Skip Robinson Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 5:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: Employees exposed to direct enforcement actions (WAS Volkswagen ProgrammedVehicle to Deactivate Pollution Control Systems)

2015-09-22 Thread Jon Butler
Having consulted at several companies under HIPAA rules, let me chime in. It's not as though there is someone standing behind you with a baseball bat just waiting for the opportunity to swat your head. Most of the practical rules are common sense. Don't go peeking into personal data just

Provenance of Read Multiple CKD

2015-09-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
Reference Manual for IBM 3830 Storage Control Model 2, GA26-1617-5, describes Read Multiple Count Key Data, but GA26-1617-3 does not. Exactly when did IBM add the opcode, and did it require the Expanded Control Code feature? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO

Re: Employees exposed to direct enforcement actions (WAS Volkswagen ProgrammedVehicle to Deactivate Pollution Control Systems)

2015-09-22 Thread John McKown
Good rules below. I implement them. But, then, I am a sysprog and don't have any need to see any information about any of our clients. I also don't have any real interest in their personal information (most humans are _boring_). I don't "gossip". And I am an adherent of the NSA (Never Say

Re: Volkswagen Programmed Vehicle to Deactivate Pollution Control Systems

2015-09-22 Thread Bob Shannon
> Like Charles said, there two sides, I'm keep wondering why it was done I'm a former TDI owner (not the generation in question). Loved the car. Loved the engine. So, after investing a billion or so dollars in a new engine design VW finds it can either pass the emissions tests or achieve high

HP being sued, not by IBM.....yet!

2015-09-22 Thread Bill Johnson
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/09/22/michigan_sues_hp_for_upgrade_failure/ Michigan failure. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO

Re: HP being sued, not by IBM.....yet!

2015-09-22 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Bill Johnson wrote: >http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/09/22/michigan_sues_hp_for_upgrade_failure/ >Michigan failure. Bill, many thanks for this interesting link, but I got a nice picture of a vulture sleeping on a '404' computer... ;-D Your link is somewhat broken even after I fixed that

Re: HP being sued, not by IBM.....yet!

2015-09-22 Thread Mike Schwab
One of the comments: Re: SIMH Looking around at some of their purchase orders, it would seem they have Unisys mainframes running COBOL applications supported by a proprietary ISAM-type database engine, as well as more modern applications written in PowerBuilder with Sybase underpinnings. Part of

Re: HP being sued, not by IBM.....yet!

2015-09-22 Thread Jack J. Woehr
Jack J. Woehr wrote: Tom Marchant wrote: Evidently the Register doesn't know that mainframes*are* modern. The machines are. Their workforce isn't. It might be if there were affordable access to modern mainframe operating systems for the masses of young programmers. But I've only been saying

Re: Migrate ti new userid

2015-09-22 Thread retired mainframer
Once you create new GDG base entries, it would seem that a simple ADRDSSU COPY old-id.** DELETE RENAME(new-id) should handle both VSAM and non-VSAM. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Steve Coalbran > Sent: Tuesday,

Re: HP being sued, not by IBM.....yet!

2015-09-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 14:30:12 +, Bill Johnson wrote: >http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/09/22/michigan_sues_hp_for_upgrade_failure/ >Michigan failure. > ".. 1960s mainframe hell" Kinda harsh. And, "... 1960s-vintage mainframe ..." What model did they have? Could they even get service for

Re: HP being sued, not by IBM.....yet!

2015-09-22 Thread Thomas Conley
On 9/22/2015 11:23 AM, Mike Schwab wrote: One of the comments: Re: SIMH Looking around at some of their purchase orders, it would seem they have Unisys mainframes running COBOL applications supported by a proprietary ISAM-type database engine, as well as more modern applications written in

Re: HP being sued, not by IBM.....yet!

2015-09-22 Thread John McKown
On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Thomas Conley wrote: > On 9/22/2015 11:04 AM, Tom Marchant wrote: > >> On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 14:30:12 +, Bill Johnson wrote: >> >> >>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/09/22/michigan_sues_hp_for_upgrade_failure/ >>> >> >> "to date

Re: Volkswagen Programmed Vehicle to Deactivate Pollution Control Systems

2015-09-22 Thread Tony Thigpen
> (Others?) Yes. Independent tester was CAFEE. Third-party who hired them was ICCT. Tony Thigpen Paul Gilmartin wrote on 09/22/2015 11:15 AM: On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 10:29:35 -0400, Tony Thigpen wrote: Independent tester hired by third-party that wanted tougher standards. I see: